[Northerner52]

FL Leading Causes of Death, 2017
1. Heart Disease 46,440
2. Cancer 45,131
*** 2020 Covid deaths to Oct 27 2020*** 16,505
3. Accidents 13,059
4. Chronic Lower Respiratory Diseases 12,619
5 Stroke 12,602
6 Alzheimer’s Disease 6,980
7 Diabetes 6,172
8 Suicide 3,227
9 Kidney Disease 3,172
10 Chronic Liver Disease/Cirrhosis 3,098
Stats of the State of Florida

By zip code. The 3 Villages zip codes have 850 cases. 130,000 people .006 or 6 out of 1,000 infection rate. No death count on the site for the 3 zips
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[LiverpoolWalrus]

Originally Posted by Northerner52

FL Leading Causes of Death, 2017
1. Heart Disease 46,440
2. Cancer 45,131
*** 2020 Covid deaths to Oct 27 2020*** 16,505
3. Accidents 13,059
4. Chronic Lower Respiratory Diseases 12,619
5 Stroke 12,602
6 Alzheimer’s Disease 6,980
7 Diabetes 6,172
8 Suicide 3,227
9 Kidney Disease 3,172
10 Chronic Liver Disease/Cirrhosis 3,098
Stats of the State of Florida

By zip code. The 3 Villages zip codes have 850 cases. 130,000 people .006 or 6 out of 1,000 infection rate. No death count on the site for the 3 zips
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There was/is controversy that FL (and other states) count any death in which the patient is suspected of having Covid as a Covid death, whether or not the patient’s blood was tested for the virus or other co-morbidities are present. If that’s true, I wonder if these numbers reflect that practice.

Edited to include this CDC link which sheds a little light on reporting cause of death, but to me is still rather vague. Apparently there is an assumption that a co-morbidity would not have resulted in death absent Covid, if I read it correctly.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf

[Gulfcoast]

I read recently about a woman in her late 50's who was found unresponsive in her home due to an untreated infection developing into sepsis. While in the hospital in grave condition from sepsis, she contracted Covid. She unfortunately passed away and her death was apparently ruled Covid.

[CWGUY]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

I read recently about a woman in her late 50's who was found unresponsive in her home due to an untreated infection developing into sepsis. While in the hospital in grave condition from sepsis, she contracted Covid. She unfortunately passed away and her death was apparently ruled Covid.

When Annie Glenn (widow of John Glenn) passed away in May , I remember reading it was from Covid-19. The fact that she was 100 years old just might have had something to do with it too....... maybe?

Speech advocate Annie Glenn, astronaut'''s wife, dies at 100

[Dgizzi]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

There was/is controversy that FL (and other states) count any death in which the patient is suspected of having Covid as a Covid death, whether or not the patient’s blood was tested for the virus or other co-morbidities are present. If that’s true, I wonder if these numbers reflect that practice.

Edited to include this CDC link which sheds a little light on reporting cause of death, but to me is still rather vague. Apparently there is an assumption that a co-morbidity would not have resulted in death absent Covid, if I read it correctly.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf

I do medical billing for a huge company and for many many hospitals. Sorry to say it is true, they put COVID diagnosis and just about every patient because if they have a slight fever, sniffle or cough they are considered COVID. It’s ridiculous and if I person goes and gets tested several times and they were tested positive each time they keep counting that. So a paranoid person will go get tested till it gets out of their system and it is counted as positive each time.

[JimJohnson]

So are you saying that Covid 19 is a hoax?

[8notes]

Originally Posted by JimJohnson

So are you saying that Covid 19 is a hoax?

Of course that's what they are trying to imply. The recent Covid positivity rate is 6.74% through Oct. 20, above the 5% that the WHO recommends for reopening. And yet we saw another super spreader event in Tampa yesterday, people at a campaign rally standing shoulder to shoulder, few masks in evidence. I guess people are in denial.

[Mrprez]

Originally Posted by 8notes

Of course that's what they are trying to imply. The recent Covid positivity rate is 6.74% through Oct. 20, above the 5% that the WHO recommends for reopening. And yet we saw another super spreader event in Tampa yesterday, people at a campaign rally standing shoulder to shoulder, few masks in evidence. I guess people are in denial.

Can you post some evidence of the spikes directly related to these so called “super spreader events”? I can’t recall having seen anyone reporting on this.

[thelegges]

Originally Posted by JimJohnson

So are you saying that Covid 19 is a hoax?

Not at all, but if you are stage 4 Mets, Have maybe few weeks to live, in today’s world your death will probably be counted as Covid, tested or not. There are some states, that are actually going through death certificates starting in April, and may change the death as Covid.

My personal friends wife died, In April, she was septic, stage 4 liver, Mets in 4 sites. Both were Anesthesiologists, she was being treated at, home, had an MI her husband preformed CPR until rescue unit arrived, and pronounced.

He received a letter In September, that her death certificate was being reviewed, as a possible Covid death. No testing was ever done. He knows it was not Covid, but can you imagine an non medical professional receiving that notice.

Numbers are skewed for many reasons, those in the field are just questioning why, and to who’s benefit.

[xcaligirl]

Originally Posted by Dgizzi

I do medical billing for a huge company and for many many hospitals. Sorry to say it is true, they put COVID diagnosis and just about every patient because if they have a slight fever, sniffle or cough they are considered COVID. It’s ridiculous and if I person goes and gets tested several times and they were tested positive each time they keep counting that. So a paranoid person will go get tested till it gets out of their system and it is counted as positive each time.

Thanks for your post. I've heard this several times. It's just to pump up the numbers that 'everyone is dying of COVID or COVID-RELATED so people only believe what they read, nothing else! People don't want to actually 'think' or read different articles. Makes me also think the numbers have gone crazy now just before election date. Coincidence?!

[l2ridehd]

Follow the money. Hospitals get a federal bump in money if you died of Covid. A doctor friend told me it was $3500 if you died of Covid. So every one who even has a C in their name and died must have had it. It was part of the hospital funding in the first stimulus bill. I have searched for the amount but have found no supporting information other than hospitals do get funds for each Covid patient. The $3500 may or may not be accurate, but he did say that is what his hospital got.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Northerner52

FL Leading Causes of Death, 2017
1. Heart Disease 46,440
2. Cancer 45,131
*** 2020 Covid deaths to Oct 27 2020*** 16,505
3. Accidents 13,059
4. Chronic Lower Respiratory Diseases 12,619
5 Stroke 12,602
6 Alzheimer’s Disease 6,980
7 Diabetes 6,172
8 Suicide 3,227
9 Kidney Disease 3,172
10 Chronic Liver Disease/Cirrhosis 3,098
Stats of the State of Florida

By zip code. The 3 Villages zip codes have 850 cases. 130,000 people .006 or 6 out of 1,000 infection rate. No death count on the site for the 3 zips
ArcGIS Dashboards

I've been seeing that the population of The Villages is 130,000 for the past three years. I have a hard time believing that with all of the new construction south of 44 that it's not a lot higher by now.

Does anyone know where to get an exact count of the people that live in The Villages?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

What is surprising to me considering the age demographic in Florida is that only about 2% of the people who have gotten Covid have died.

I would have though that with so many seniors living here that the death rate would have been much higher.

[eweissenbach]

Perhaps if people wore masks we could slow down or prevent deaths from heart disease or cancer! Some illnesses are preventable to a degree by forming good health habits, others are preventable, to a degree, by wearing masks and avoiding crowds of people. It seems like some are thinking that 16,000+ Preventable deaths are No big deal. I lost a friend last week who was a strong, healthy 56 year old man who didn’t take precautions. His family doesn’t think it is no big deal I’ll assure you.

[thelegges]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

Follow the money. Hospitals get a federal bump in money if you died of Covid. A doctor friend told me it was $3500 if you died of Covid. So every one who even has a C in their name and died must have had it. It was part of the hospital funding in the first stimulus bill. I have searched for the amount but have found no supporting information other than hospitals do get funds for each Covid patient. The $3500 may or may not be accurate, but he did say that is what his hospital got.

It’s much more than $3500. But there might be a sliding scale for payment