[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Pairadocs

Don't doubt it at all, but just curious, how did you find out, was it in the Daily Sun ? Curious because our only newspaper "seems to me ?"" does one lousy job of keeping us informed for the sake of safety. Just my opinion. Sad when one can't depend on our own local (looking after the best interests of its citizens as it should) newspaper can't be counted on !

Inside knowledge from friends inside the school system.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

It doesn't panic me if I am in the 10% group because I know I will not have moderate or severe symptoms or be hospitalized and die from Covid. That is the protection I believe I have and that has made me feel safe from dying of Covid.

Yes, but are you spreading it? That is why the CDC says keep up masking and distance. It is out of an abundance of caution. Note that in the US the U.K. variant has gone from 1% to 27 % and is the most prominent variant of CV in Florida. Anyway, why NOT (?) continue to mask up and stay to CDC advice for 2 to 4 more weeks - just to see if cases in the US are headed up or down? You and I and others have done the CDC advice thing for about a year now. The point is to defeat the CV not just give up when so close. Someone said it is like "spiking the football on the 5-yard line when running for a TD"! CV is not BEATEN until it is BEATEN - when the graph approaches ZERO!

[stanley]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Inside knowledge from friends inside the school system.

Ahhhhhaaa.............unnamed sources..............I get it

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

No they cannot.

Anyone who has been fully vaccinated and is not in that 4% group, cannot get, or give, the virus at all.

But nobody knows who is in that 4% group..

I can agree with that in principle.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by scottiesrgreat@gmail.com

Amazing! We have so many epidemiologists on this site! Cool!

Hmmmm...... I think the original post asked something about why Fauci was saying everyone should just wear a mask even after fully vaccinated?

Fauci should have never ever been assigned to this in the first place....... and history will show what a mistake it was to appoint and retain someone like this to this problem - when we have so many wonderful experts and thought-leaders in premier institutions around the world - current and practicing experts that are so much better at communicating and fostering trust......

Seriously, if I was in charge - I would have never appointed or retained him - and I doubt if I would have even considered consulting him - especially with his conflicting advice. Why do people and leaders think he is the ‘end all’ and ‘know all’? Heck - I wouldn’t even want his advice if he made a house call for no charge. If he is the one and only expert on the face of the earth ..... we are doomed - and getting a vaccine or wearing masks really will make no difference.

I don't see the point of "Fauci hating". The man gave his WHOLE LIFE to the irradiation of diseases. God WILL like his resume. The world needs more Fauci s not less.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Yes, but are you spreading it? That is why the CDC says keep up masking and distance. It is out of an abundance of caution. Note that in the US the U.K. variant has gone from 1% to 27 % and is the most prominent variant of CV in Florida. Anyway, why NOT (?) continue to mask up and stay to CDC advice for 2 to 4 more weeks - just to see if cases in the US are headed up or down? You and I and others have done the CDC advice thing for about a year now. The point is to defeat the CV not just give up when so close. Someone said it is like "spiking the football on the 5-yard line when running for a TD"! CV is not BEATEN until it is BEATEN - when the graph approaches ZERO!

My response was to another poster and the post I responded to had nothing to do with masking. I was responding that it will not panic me if I'm one of the unlucky ones to contract Covid because the vaccine offers me protection from severe disease. There was no mention of masks between me and the other poster I responded to.

As an aside......I'm still masking all the time indoors and always keep my distance from others. That is not going to last forever for me though.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by tuccillo

No, a reason a person might want to get the J&J is because it is only a single shot or it is more readily available in their location. For a variety of reasons, it may be problematic for them to get a second shot of Pfizer or Moderna. Suggesting that anyone only get a single shot of the Pfizer or Moderna is silly - you do not know more than the developers and clearly the vaccine is designed to have two shots. I have not heard anyone suggest that the Pfizer or Moderna should be used as a single shot. There have been suggestions that the second shot could be delayed more than 3-4 weeks.

Any comparisons of efficacy between Pfizer/Moderna and J&J, regardless of the number of shots or Pfizer/Moderna, is meaningless. Stating that a single shot of Pfizer/Moderna is more effective than J&J is simply not a valid statement. The definition of a "positive" result during the trials, which was used for the efficacy calculation, was not the same for the trials of Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J. Nor was the timeframe of the trials or the populations that were used in the trials or the age profiles of those in the trials or the coronavirus variants that may have been in the populations of the trials. The best anyone can reasonably state is that the two-shot Pfizer and Moderna vaccines appear to be as effective as the single shot J&J in preventing serious disease or death. Health professionals have gone on record as stating that you should make your choice of vaccine based on whichever one you have faster access to.

The beauty of the J&J vaccine is that it is inexpensive compared to Pfizer and Moderna - it needs only NORMAL refrigeration - making it best for areas in the US like some of the less densely populated Native American Tribal areas and remote 3rd world areas.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by tvbound

"Why would anybody listen to someone who has a financial stake in the vaccine? (Fauci)"

Where in the world did you read or hear, that Dr. Fauci has any financial stake, in any vaccine?

I would guess that it was started by Russian bots. That is a cheap and dirty way to wage war against an economically superior country.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by blueash

Why would anyone listen to a person who is a totally wrong spreading completely baseless rumors about a person who has lead the NIAID in the National Institute of Health through both Dem and GOP administrations since 1984, and is considered a world expert on infectious disease and immunoregulation. It scares the Hell out of me when people claim to work in health care, and maybe you do, and might actually be endangering the lives of the patients they see when they are so frighteningly ignorant of how to read the literature and analyze data as you seem to be. The horrible language you use to describe those who have the temerity to believe Fauci and the CDC when is comes to Covid is a huge indictment of your inability to separate your political extremism from facts and you absolutely should not be allowed to interact with any patients until you get serious mental health care or have your meds adjusted.

Show me one damn bit of proof that Fauci has a direct stake in the vaccines, not just that he might own a few shares of stock or that the NIH interacts with pharmaceutical companies, as they always have as part of their job. The vaccines do NOT change your DNA, You are an untrained fool who needs to go back to school if you wrote that and believe that. I expect people who are not versed in how RNA and DNA work to be confused and easily led astray by charlatans but you "work in health care" and attach RN to your screen name. Shame on you. Please tell us where you work so we can report your lack of judgement and lack of education to your employer. And you show a complete lack of compassion for people who disagree with you calling them sheeple, the favorite insult of the farthest of the right wingers in our divided nation.

Poetry to my ears!!!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by blueash

He sure conned Ronald Reagan and George Bush. Reagan used him as an expert on management of HIV and Bush awarded him the Presidential Medal of Freedom. He sure conned all the established organizations and universities that have honored him. All those experts in medicine who rely on his contributions to the science of healing are all being conned by Dr. Fauci. Trump was conned by him when he selected him for his Covid team. Who is Dr. Fauci?



But I'm sure your ability to detect skill in a field is so much better than all these organizations. Who is being conned? Maybe it is you.

Blueash - the modern Socrates!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Greg Teeters

All bow to the great blue ash— knower of all medical knowledge on earth. Beat that horse!!

Blue ash is a national treasure that we are lucky to have in TV Land. And that is a fact!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

If the grandparents were fully immune after vaccination, then it was NOT the grandparents that spread Covid. Fully vaccinated people have been found NOT to spread the virus because viral load is too low.

That is still being researched, A study in Israel came to that conclusion, but experts in the US are STILL studying it.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Blue ash is a national treasure that we are lucky to have in TV Land. And that is a fact!

I've been thinking about what I want on my gravestone. Hadn't considered "national treasure" before, hmm.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by jmintzer5

I agree, you SHOULD still have antibodies. But remember, last Spring the "party line" was "we don't know how long the antibodies will last..."

I also had Civid last year. It was very early March...

Didn't even know I had it. I had a low grade fever (99.6°-99.7°) for 36 hours, along with some body aches and chills. No significant cough.

Turns out (thru back tracking), I caught it from a patient, who subsequently died when he refused to go to the ER as I instructed him to do...

I wanted a covid test, but at the time (early March, 2020) I didn't qualify for one...

When the antibody test became available (a few months later), I had blood drawn and low and behold, I was positive for the antibodies.

I had a repeat test in September, then again in November, while doing blood work for another issue (they were still going with "We don't know how long the antibodies will last"). I was positive both times...

I was going to wait on getting the vaccine (so not to take it from someone who really needed it), but after consulting with MY Dr, and doing the research, we decided I should get it, since I was a health care worker (and under 65). First shot (Moderna), was right after the New Year and the 2nd one, 4 weeks later...

My wife was finally able to register (she's not yet 65, either) and is getting the J&J tomorrow... Our main residence is in MD, and the distribution here has been god-awful!

Oh, and she caught Covid from me, back in March of last year and her last antibody test was in December (still positive)...

I wear a mask all day in the office, when requested to by stores, or when in a big crowd. I always have one in my pocket...

Is it a PITA? Yup! Is it the end of the world? Nope! Do I think some of it is overkill? Most certainly...

Thanks for this post and for your work.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

My response was to another poster and the post I responded to had nothing to do with masking. I was responding that it will not panic me if I'm one of the unlucky ones to contract Covid because the vaccine offers me protection from severe disease. There was no mention of masks between me and the other poster I responded to.

As an aside......I'm still masking all the time indoors and always keep my distance from others. That is not going to last forever for me though.

Agreed.