A no brainer.

I closed my Facebook account years ago. I actually never did use it. Don't ever go on it.

Nope, never have. Anyone who wants protection from this virus and does not want their breathing hampered by an N95 mask should get themselves vaccinated. No worries about not being able to breath!

There's anti-vaxxers for regular vaccines (those who think they are filled with dangerous chemicals which will give their child allergies, autism, etc.) and those who are anti-COVID/gene therapy. Two different scenarios. The 2nd group is a much more diverse crowd, spanning age groups, income and education levels and race and ethnicity. For instance, Latinos are very anti-Covid vax but not for regular childhood vaccines. Something about the mRNA making men impotent or sterile...hmmmm.

You have a very good point there.

I totally disagree with the guy but I think the point is being misrepresented. If you are vaccinated against say the original virus. Then, your immune system will kill clones of the original virus, and any variants that are similar. That is what it is supposed to do.

So, what happens if there is a mutation, in your body, that your immune system doesn't recognize? Well, it will not get killed.

The problem is what happens next. I don't know. I am not an expert.

But, think about this.

Every year most (many?) people get influenza vaccinations. So, why are we not all dead from mutated mega influenza viruses resulting from being vaccinated?

Every year millions of children get vaccinated against various viruses. Why aren't we all dead from polio, chickenpox, etc. as a result of a mega monster mutating because of the vaccinations?

So, who do we believe, a Vet that says our entire immune system has been destroyed if we got vaccinated (which means EVERYONE that has been vaccinated will soon be DEAD - you can't live without an immune system outside of a sterile bubble).

Or scientists that have worked their entire lives in this field, and have minor achievements like eradicating polio, chickenpox, measle, et al.

Inquiring minds want to know...

Because maybe much is still unknown about this virus because it was made in a lab? That's why a traditional vaccine couldn't be created for it so they had to go the experimental route and take some chances. Maybe the virus won't behave in the same way a virus from a naturally occurring source would?

Actually, no maybes about it. Those are actual reasons why.

Any proof, I don't think so. But, sure go for it, if that makes you feel good.

I guess it really doesn't matter what happens next because as of tonight FL is at over 21,000 new cases today, up from 17,000 yesterday. Regardless what DeSantis says, Disney is asking people to mask, and making employees get the vac in order to work.... same with SeaWorld and just about all the major family fun spots in that area.
So thank God, even with all the whiners that say the government can't make me do it...
The people/business's have spoken...you do the right thing....or get out.....FINALLY!!!!

Sadly, viruses grow at exponential rates, without intervention we will be back where we were six months ago soon. At some point all this BS being spewed will stop being free speech and start being "yelling fire in a theater". People are dying, at least partially because of the massive misinformation.

I don't know if they should tell their workers to get lost. It's hard to get low-wage employees nowadays. Maybe they should offer incentives and bonuses instead.

I’ve always used N95 masks and the secret is good fit and comfort. Just tight enough. The materials used in N95 can vary too. That makes a difference in breathability. I came out of a store and waited for a friend outside. I noticed a few people looked at me. Then I realized I still had the mask on. I’m so used to it, I forgot.

That would never work, they need to compete with the government....more incentives not to work ya know.

it seems you are pretty much against anything and everything anyone suggests. What do you propose is a way forward?

Please provide proof that I'm "against anything and everything anyone suggests".
You don't know me to paint me with such a broad brush.

Actually, if you understand how gain of function research has occurred in the past, you would know that they insert a polybasic furin cleavage site into a virus. They do this so that a protease can come along and snip the receptor binding domain off the viral genome which allows the viral payload to be inserted into the cell.

There are 13 documented occurrences of this on various other viruses.

They used a polybasic furin cleavage site with a proline, two arginines and an Alanine. PRRA.

PRRA has high affinity for human tissues which is why it is a good insert for gain of function.

PRRA is not found in animal models like bats, pangolins or most of everything that isn't humanized because their systems don't code for a protease like humans do.

There are no bat ancestor genomes with a polybasic furin cleavage site with PRRA. In fact, that probably would not occur in nature because it would make it harder for the virus to propagate in bat tissues.

Sars-Cov2 has a polybasic furin cleavage site PRRA. Is that proof it came from a lab? without someone admitting they did that, no, not exactly. It's a smoking gun though.

It is the exact sequence used in gain of function. We know bat genomes were used at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. We know the Bat lady, Shi was using that exact sequence in gain of function research.

When you are in North America and you hear hoofbeats, you don't think zebras.

Swine Flu (H1N1) was declared a pandemic in the spring of 2009. By December of that year they had developed a traditional vaccine and were starting to administer it. That's because Swine Flu was related to other flus that humans get. It had the same components. Not so with COVID. They had to try something new. They're still figuring it out and you can see that in the CDC's backtracking, contradictions, corrections, and do-overs for the past year.

All this new study has done is create more uncertainty, confusion and distrust. Now the unvaccinated think, "why bother getting vaccinated if my old auntie is fully vaxxed and still got it anyway?"

Just my opinion based on what I read you post. I don't recall very many positive posts. And I said, "pretty much", you left off the qualifier, making it sound worse, again a more negative connotation of what I said.

But, just my opinion, and you are right I don't know you at all, so I can only speak to what I read here. You could be the most positive upbeat person in TV as far as I know.

You realize every thing you just wrote is supposition on your part.

I will still trust the experts that actually work in the field of pandemics (on humans) over some stranger on the internet that says every one of the experts is wrong.

What is the "supposition" on what was posted about H1N1?

Please provide proof that he doesn't know you to paint you with such a broad brush.
Please provide proof that he wants to paint you at all.
Please provide proof that he has a brush.

Your turn.

Covid is not an influenza virus. "Flu" is short for "influenza virus." COVID-19 is short for "COronaVIrus Disease."

The veterinarian who wrote his treatise warning against the vaccine - if you were actually paying attention around the time that was written - was mostly referring to the concept that in order for a vaccine against COVID-19 to be effective, MOST people need to be vaccinated. There was no way to develop, AND test, AND manufacture, AND distribute a vaccine for COVID-19 in time for "most" people to be immunized.

That meant the virus would have had a LOT of time to mutate.

He was absolutely spot-on right, in that. But it wasn't because people COULDN'T vaccinate in time. It's because they CHOSE not to vaccinate in time.

The warnings were coming from everywhere - you get vaccinated as soon as you are eligible, as soon as the vaccine is available to you. If you don't, the virus can mutate.

Too many people said "screw that, I'll take my chances." And the virus did EXACTLY as predicted: it mutated.

If people took the "herd immunity" concept more seriously THEN, the virus wouldn't have had the opportunity to mutate NOW.

Thank you, too bad it won't matter.

The common cold is also a coronavirus but I get your meaning. The way I understood his theory was that because the vaccine was specific to the spike protein in COVID the body's immune response would be vulnerable to not only the variants but other illnesses because the COVID vaccine is so powerful it overwhelms everything else. I don't think we've seen that yet, however, we aren't in cold and flu season.

The whole spike protein thing is overblown, and has been used as a political anti-vax conspiracy to cast blame and deflect. While I don't really understand about spike proteins, I do understand about checking out information sources. If credentialed, known, experienced, published, peer-reviewed, immunologists, virologists, research scientists who are respected *by their peers* all say "yeah that thing you heard? It's just more fox news nonsense" then I'm going to believe them, before I believe Tucker Carlson.

And by "by their peers" I am intentionally excluding people whose opinions of those scientists have no relevance. What a Tucker or Hannity or whoever is on CNN or main-stream-media or some alt-right or anarchy conspiracy website or Dr. Oz or even our President feels about a scientist is not relevant. I don't care about their feelings about science. I care about the respected opinions of respected scientists, about other respected scientists.

In other words, I believe in science, not editorials.

You seem to have a lot of knowledge on the subject. As you probably know, Sars-Cov1 did have an animal intermediary, as did MERS. They've never found the animal this time even though the Chinese claimed they had only to be refuted and exposed by other scientists. The genome sequence needs to be almost as exact match and the closest they ever got was 96%.

The Chinese were present when they did the gain of function research at Univ. of North Carolina lab where they successfully infected HeLa cells (human cells) with horseshoe bat coronavirus. So the Chinese just continued on with it in Wuhan, along with other bioweapons research. Although virus escapes have happened, this was no accident. Not with the timing of it and then the elaborate cover up and lies by the Chinese. As late as mid-January, at least two months after the first COVID case, knowing full well what was happening in their country they still permitted travel abroad.

Nice "business partners", eh?

Round and round we go... back to bioweapons

:blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah::pray:

I see we hit a new record in Florida - 21,000 cases.

For those that like to use common sense, what does getting a record number of cases while performing half as many tests imply? (We are down from 90,000 tests to 48,000 tests per day)

The seven-day average Vaccines administered are up 26% over the past 3 weeks, according to headlines today. Some states are over double in the past three weeks.

This is good news.

Looks like we will be reaching herd immunity quicker…

Too bad so many will need to die to get there, that way.

The other news is vaccination rate is up, people are taking action and getting vaccinations, so you may be right.

Hanlon's razor is appropriate here. "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity".

I think of the leak as stupidity and poor controls.

I think the coverup was malice. Not stopping international flights out of Wuhan, but stopping domestic flights? Malice. Taking the viral database offline? Malice. Lying to the WHO, Malice. Showing videos of people falling over in the street? Malice. etc.

They knew exactly where this came from and who did it and have spared no lives in making sure no one else figures it out. The problem with that is the genome is hard science. You can't fudge it, it's testable out of their control.

Now that it's passed to animals, they will probably deflect and suggest that the animal reservoirs were the source, rather than the other way around. White tail deer in Michigan? I read an article on that yesterday but I haven't run it down.

This virus was created in a lab using gain of function research funded by Fauci so its going be problematic. Fortunately there is a new technology being developed by last years Nobel prize winner and others that will be able to bypass the immune system antibody method and destroy the DNA of the virus directly.

They have been traced to people traveling back and forth from the Miami area to South America where Delta and the two new variants are from. This is the same region the 1 million illegal aliens have come from, unmasked and unvaxxed and ignored by some for PC reasons.

It's a shame it's taken this long. Too many people just keep banging their heads against the wall, expecting the door to open. Eventually they learn - there's no door there. You need to first find a door.

That's what's happened with this vaccine and the virus. Wall = refusal to vaccinate. Door = the vaccine.

This is a good one to use in the context of vaccine and virus deniers. They're not actually malicious. They're just stupid.

Here's a good explanation of the gain of function situation:

news observer article

Notice that this article doesn't make fun of, disparage, or even address the people themselves. It is an explanation of the actual science, the facts themselves. No accusations that one side is smarter/dumber than the other. No "what abouts." Just simple easy to understand information.

EUA Revoked for PCR test?
 

The CDC announced they will revoke the emergency use authorization of the PCR tests first introduced in February of 2020.

"CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS CoV-2 and influenza viruses."

Lab Alert: Changes to CDC RT-PCR for SARS-CoV-2 Testing

So, does this mean that the PCR test that was used during the "pandemic" could not differentiate between Sars CoV-2 and influenza?

India, the UK, and several European countries had Delta before the US did. Were they impacted by the US southern border too?

We need to stop with the ridiculous attempts to find someone to blame other than the 40%ish of the country who have refused to get the vaccination. They are the ones predominately getting sick and filling the hospitals. They are the ones predominately spreading the virus. They are the ones who are driving the "need" for the new mask mandates. They, the unvaccinated, are the primary reason the virus is still spreading. Talking about the border is a distraction or a deflection - deal with the problem at hand.

Yes, there are some who legitimately cannot be vaccinated. Their need for special protection is due to the vaccine refusers as well.