[graciegirl]

This young father of four would still be alive if he had not broken the law and stopped when directed to do so.

Everyone I know taught their kids to follow directions if they are stopped by police. They taught their kids to respect rules and authority. They taught them that people would not respect them if they broke the laws and resisted arrest.

I understand that the kind of statement I just made above is called "Virtue Signaling" by people using "NewSpeak".

I don't give a damn what "they" call it. Don't break the law. Stop when a police officer says STOP. It will be a way to lead a longer and more productive life.

I wonder how the children's livelihood will be paid for? I hope the mother can find a way to get a good job to support the children. She probably will. I have heard of several people who have raised their children by working hard and careful planning and not having a lot of extras.

It is a sad state of affairs. I don't think it has anything to do with race unless we look at things that way.

[Two Bills]

I leave it to the law and the courts to sort out the why's, wherefore's, justification, and fact from fiction.

Below is the post I commented on, and the only thing I commented on, and found shameful.
I still consider it so.

Originally Posted by Byte1

He probably deserved it. Probably saved his family and many citizens of this country a lot of pain. He saved the taxpayer a lot of money for court and jail time. It was not murder though, unless you know something that no one else knows and the COP knew him and plotted to kill him. I am sure that like others, his family will cash in on this. Probably the only good thing he did for them.

[joseppe]

The officer who shot him had a weapon pointed at him. He could only Presume it was the Taser that was taken from him, but couldn't the perp have also grabbed the other officer's gun during the scuffle? Point a weapon of any type at a police officer and that police officer is going to assume his life is in danger. Try pointing an a BB gun at a police officer. What do you think the response should be? Can you tell a taser from a BB gun from a Glock being pointed at you in a split second from some distance at night? I think I would have fired my weapon also.

[nn0wheremann]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

The suspect should not have resisted arrest for being .02 above the limit...but it shouldn't have been a death sentence.

The cop should not have shot someone in the back, while he was running away... when the cop's life was in no danger.

And NO, a taser is not considered a lethal weapon.

Why was the cop picking up his brass for 2 minutes...before he even went to the victim?

Maybe because he knew once the detectives figured out how far away the victim was, while running away...he would be in deep doo-doo?

And NO, this is NOT justification for citizen violence or property damage.

It (along with the posts we'll see here) does, however, show...exactly why black people across the nation are so angry.

Well said. Drunkenness is not a hanging offense. Running from police is not a hanging offense. They had his car, his identification and could go arrest him when he was calmed down.

[nn0wheremann]

Originally Posted by joseppe

The officer who shot him had a weapon pointed at him. He could only Presume it was the Taser that was taken from him, but couldn't the perp have also grabbed the other officer's gun during the scuffle? Point a weapon of any type at a police officer and that police officer is going to assume his life is in danger. Try pointing an a BB gun at a police officer. What do you think the response should be? Can you tell a taser from a BB gun from a Glock being pointed at you in a split second from some distance at night? I think I would have fired my weapon also.

Yes if the taser is iridescent yellow, and the police issued firearms are black, and if I had already determined he was unarmed.

[jarodrig]

Originally Posted by MEbner2805

WoW so nice to get a real experienced viewpoint on this and thank you a bunch for chiming in to educate us all! The cop clearly should have handled it differently and it’s a shame too many of them are seemingly shooting out of feeling disrespected. I wonder about the training program if the cops are operating off emotion all the time like this and destroying their lives and others who don’t deserve to die?
Much respect and god bless all our police forces for what they go through.

Hard to say who’s post you’re referring to since you didn’t use the reply with quote option....

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by nn0wheremann

Yes if the taser is iridescent yellow, and the police issued firearms are black, and if I had already determined he was unarmed.

The guy was belligerent and fought with the officers and had pointed a weapon at them.

The officers had to make a split second decision and apparently thought he was being threatened.

Perhaps the officer was wrong but to be summarily fired without due process is wrong.

BTW this would be a second DWI and he had been in prison for child endangerment so not exactly a model citizen.

Than we have the crowd destroying the restaurant owned by a black man who did nothing wrong.

[ColdNoMore]

Cop who killed Brooks previously reprimanded for excessive force (click here)

Atlanta police on Monday released the disciplinary histories for both officers involved in the shooting death of Rayshard Brooks, revealing that one of them had previously been reprimanded for use of force involving a firearm.

Garrett Rolfe, the 27-year-old officer who was fired after shooting and killing Brooks on Friday night in a Wendy’s parking lot, received a written reprimand in 2017 due to the complaint.

Given the power of the police unions, it takes a lot...for even a reprimand to stand.

[amexsbow]

As a retired L.E.O. along with others who have served in life or death situations, it is easy for the leftist police haters to judge from the comfort of their living room.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by MEbner2805

I don’t feel that was a justified killing. I think shoot the perp in the leg to stop them but not in the body! I feel cops don’t realize the damage a bullet does to a body. Criminals are terrible but cops must handle them properly and stop shooting them for simple disrespect! That’s the reason cops are shooting people and it’s not acceptable.

Law Enforcement does NOT teach "shooting " the bad guy in the leg. An officer is taught to shoot to STOP. They are using lethal force and they realize it. No one said the cops shot him for "simple disrespect" so please explain your source. I would be interested.

That COP deserves an investigation by the Dept to see if it is a justifiable shooting, not judged and prosecuted by the public based on what they thought they saw on one video.

I saw more than one video and from what I saw and from my experience in law enforcement, my OPINION is that it could be a justified shooting. I might not have used lethal force, but I do not know the totality of the circumstances. I probably would have shot him while he was still standing over me with the taser in his hands. I did not have a taser when I worked, but I did have occasion to utilize my flashlight in defense. And we were instructed NOT to strike the suspect in the head intentionally. Although, it did happen once in a while in the heat of the struggle/fight. Any use of force resulted in filling out a use of force report and the action was investigated. I am sure that other Dept's have similar rules. Until you have walked in their shoes, you do not understand how mistakes can happen. These things happen fast and decisions are made by reflex.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by nn0wheremann

Well said. Drunkenness is not a hanging offense. Running from police is not a hanging offense. They had his car, his identification and could go arrest him when he was calmed down.

I did not know that he was "hanged." I thought he was shot.

[Steve9930]

This will be investigated by the local authorities. What I think should have happened, or what caused this will not make any difference. I know one thing, "Never let a crisis go to waste".

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

I leave it to the law and the courts to sort out the why's, wherefore's, justification, and fact from fiction.

Below is the post I commented on, and the only thing I commented on, and found shameful.
I still consider it so.

Thank you for your opinion. My opinions are often HONEST and not tainted by PC. I would like to know what portion of my opinion was considered "shameful." I am always open to sensible and fact based discussion. Since I have had folks agree with my opinion, I am interested in why others find my opinion to be "shameful."

[2daisy]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

I condemn ANY cop shooting someone unarmed, who is not presenting a danger to the cop.

PERIOD.

FULL STOP.

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[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Byte1

from what I saw and from my experience in law enforcement,

Thank you for your service.