[LSTOWELL]

Well that's not what happened..man was asleep in his car at Wendy's drive through..clerk called police as car blocking traffic..police came and got the guy to move car out of the lane..gave tests to him..rustled him to the ground..man saw cops taser and worried it could be used on him he grabbed it and got up and started running..cop runs after him and man afraid turned and fired taser.cop pulls his gun and kills man...

[Lsepanske@aol.com]

No question .....he will win.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by crash

In retribution for killing someone a restaurant got torched And that is what you think is bad.

Go back to Tulsa Oklahoma 1921 the worst racial massacre in this country no arrests. This type of thing has been going on this country since it has been a country and you are surprised they have had enough.

I was taught at an early age than when stopped by a cop you are polite and follow their instructions.

The guy fought with the policeman grabbed his taser and fired it at the officer. If struck the officer would have been helpless and could have been shot with his own weapon.

To me it is justified killing by the officer.

In addition a bunch of locals destroyed the restaurant. Owned by a black man who had nothing to do with what happened. I would hope that pictures were taken and the arsonists arrested.

[timcarnicom]

Ya know maybe if he hadn't taken the cops taser the cop would have been able to stop him with the taser instead of his handgun. Just imagine if he had taken the cops handgun instead of the taser. I'm thinking it will come out that this man was running from something more than a DUI.

I had a black friend ask me the other day "how do we get so many blacks from getting shot while interacting with police" I said "why don't we get blacks to stop having so many interactions with police". Simple answer.

[DecaturFargo]

You have to understand that a taser is NOT a lethal weapon. The law did NOT allow the officer to shoot a man in the back. They knew who he was and where he lived. The Officer was absolutely in the wrong.

[LoisR]

Watch it again. The car was already stopped and parked with the man sleeping in it. No law was broken. The man passed the sobriety test and offered to walk to his sister's house down the street. No law was broken. The police then tried to arrest him. For what charge? Sleeping in ones own car after having a few drinks? Interesting how we see the same events differently. Justice for all.

[Saluce]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

I condemn ANY cop shooting someone unarmed, who is not presenting a danger to the cop.

PERIOD.

FULL STOP.

Ok underdog, why don’t you put ona uniform and show them all how to do their job since I’ve seen many of your post about police. Why is it always the officers and not the person who doesn’t comply!!! But the way, have you ever been tased and know what it’s like??? Just wondering as there are a lot of scenario’s of how it could have turned out! Why not just comply and both would have been safe.

[sjeffries]

I agree, it’s not a RACE issue. You break the law then fight with a cop the consequences may not always be fair.
Solution is simple, obey the law and comply if you are confronted by the cops.

[JoeinFL]

Originally Posted by jacksonbrown

Wow, you had to go back 99 years to find that piece of (maybe) fake news.

Fake news?? You have to be kidding?

[TNLAKEPANDA]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I watched the video of this tonight and what I saw was the cops stopped a car. They felt that the driver was under the influence so they gave him a field sobriety test. It looked to me that they were about to give him a breathalyzer. He grabbed the officers taser and started running. The officer gave chase and at one point the man turned and fired the taser at the officer. The officer returned fire and killed the man.

Was that shooting justified?

The police chief has resigned, the officer has been fired and his partner suspended.

Police have to protect themselves first. People need to understand that if the resist arrest bad things can happen. I will say there were two cops there and I believe that they could have subdued the man however I was not in that position. It’s a tough call.

It's going to be a tough fight for this officer. Shooting an unarmed drunk man that had resisted arrest and fired a non lethal taser at him.

If the taser had hit the officer the gun he had could be used against him by the drunk guy or an angry onlooker.

If I was this police officer I would've let him go when he resisted my attempt to handcuff him. I would already have his car, identification and video of his crimes. I would call in the fleeing suspects location and direction of travel and keep my distance. The charges would just add up for this man as he continued to evade capture. He could also commit more crimes while on the run.

This would go against my training etc but at least I would be going home a free man. Even if I was fired from my job.

I'm not saying apathy is the solution but that's where this is heading. Only 18 percent of arrest in Seattle are actually put in front of a judge. The rest are either not charged and let go or don't show up for court and the charges are dropped. The police there ignore crimes and know some of the criminals by name. One store called 911 599 times in the first year it was opened and only a few violent shoplifters were charged. Now the police ignore shoplifting calls and all other non-violent crimes. They say they are just giving the city their time for money. They have lost their desire to be the person the once were.

This attitude could spread across the country if the police are the ones being handcuffed and charged.

Maybe the police need a different approach and additional training? Maybe the suspects need to stop fighting the police if they're innocent and want to live? The guilty ones will probably keep fighting until they see others being let go and racking up long prison sentences for their efforts when they are caught or give up running?

I'm not going to find any facts I've submitted. I do have some apathy of my own. This is just my $0.02

[eyc234]

Originally Posted by LoisR

Watch it again. The car was already stopped and parked with the man sleeping in it. No law was broken. The man passed the sobriety test and offered to walk to his sister's house down the street. No law was broken. The police then tried to arrest him. For what charge? Sleeping in ones own car after having a few drinks? Interesting how we see the same events differently. Justice for all.

A law was broken, driving drunk is illegal. Being drunk in public is illegal. When he wakes up in 5 mins will he be sober and fine to drive away? Where is MADD demonstrating against drunk drivers and people thinking it is okay to drive while drunk or even tipsy? The mayor of Atlanta and all who are demonstrating need to lose someone from a drunk driver, it is illegal to drive drunk, period. If he had gotten away with the taser in his hand, car jacked a car and killed someone what would everyone have said then?

Also just saw on news that in Georgia a stun gun with a projectile is considered under the law as a deadly weapon and requires a handgun license. Do not like the taking of a life and it is a tragedy but putting yourself in danger of losing your life for being drunk is on each person.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

The B/A was administered; he blew .108; cuffs were being put on and that’s when the perp decided to do something really stupid - resist and grab the Officer’s taser.

When he turned and fired it towards the Officer, all the rules changed and deadly force was justified. They need to learn that if they point a weapon, they will get shot.

More police with that attitude...need to retire.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by JoeinFL

Fake news?? You have to be kidding?

If only they were.

Tulsa Race Massacre

It has been called "the single worst incident of racial violence in American history."[15] The attack, carried out on the ground and from private aircraft, destroyed more than 35 square blocks of the district—at that time the wealthiest black community in the United States, known as "Black Wall Street".

Many survivors left Tulsa, while black and white residents who stayed in the city were silent for decades about the terror, violence, and losses of this event.

The massacre was largely omitted from local, state, and national histories.

[JulieER]

Not a thug! He had been drinking and had passed out in his car at Wendy’s. Given the current climate, not wanting to die and thought processes muddied by the alcohol, he most likely saw it was fight or die.