[La lamy]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Interesting article on todays BBC report.


Covid: Antibodies '''fall rapidly after infection''' - BBC News

Thanks for this. Makes sense that we can be reinfected. Coronaviruses do mutate.

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by JimJohnson

Great news.
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This study sounds as much or maybe more promising than any others. Stop trying to demonize the Chinese as they may very well save lives.

Bear in mind that the link is to a Chinese Pharmaceutical Industry trade group online newsletter that may have useful information but may also be carefully walking the “party line” and be very pro-Chinese (nothing wrong with that, per se, but just keep it in mind). (I used to teach in Beijing, so I know a bit about how these things work.)

Below is a page from another featured article on the site to which you linked. Read the one sentence summary. Is this covertly suggesting that the virus may have gotten free from a research lab in Wuhan by accident? If so, be sure that the government will never admit it, even though the government is not to blame. They will just take steps to keep it from happening again. Remember, these are the regulations and supervision that allowed powdered melamine to be used as filler in baby formula.

As for the post above that claims, “China . . . cares nothing for it's people,” that is not true. It cares in a different way than we are used to. It is, we might say, highly maternalistic, trying to control many aspects of people’s lives. I remember when women were questioned each month about their menstrual cycles lest they get pregnant a second time and be pressured to get abortions if they got pregnant again. I remember when the son of a party leader was publicly executed for “spiritual pollution”: smuggling in copies of “Playboy” to sell. They have cradle to grave care of many sorts, though less than they had forty years ago. The government doesn’t do this because it doesn’t care. It does it because it DOES care. But the Chinese Communist government way is to put the good of the country above the good of the individual, and the good of all individuals depends on controlling everyone. Part of the Chinese government’s way, oddly, is to have very lax regulations about some things regarding business, making money, and safety, and that helps companies make money, but it can lead to problems or even disasters. In some ways, China is more “free market” than the U.S., but in other ways, it is tighter. Still, again, the government DOES care for its people, but in a different way than we are used to. It has been this way for many centuries.

[kannon]

Originally Posted by biker1

Such as ... Be specific, with reputable references.

Education, healthcare, social support like maternity leave. We can be great again.

[Lindsyburnsy]

China’s govt should hv been forthcoming but when we knew at the beginning of the year and called it a hoax and just let the virus run rampant, that was our fault.

Originally Posted by Two Bills

China has had a lot longer to prepare a vacine, and if they do have a viable approved one, should give it away to the rest of the world as recompence for starting the global medical and financial disaster in the first place!

[merrymini]

A vaccine from China that:
Does not allow free speech
Made fake n95 masks
Distributed children's toys painted with lead paint
Sold dog food which killed dogs
Blamed a wet market for a virus which escaped from one of their labs
Made no effort to warn the world of a virus to save face
Has a terrible human rights record
Oh, yeah, I would take one of their vaccines!

[sooziesoul]

All viruses mutate. Such as the flu virus. That’s why flu vaccines only work sometimes .

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

China’s govt should hv been forthcoming but when we knew at the beginning of the year and called it a hoax and just let the virus run rampant, that was our fault.

Nobody called it a "hoax." That's just fake news. And no one has made any suggestions to do anything different than was done. Our leaders listened to the "experts" and the "experts" kept changing their opinions on how to deal with the virus. Calling our president names and attempting a coup when they should have taken the virus seriously didn't help any.

[l2ridehd]

Originally Posted by Golfie McGolferson

Yeah, so nobody is going to do your research for you -- but use whatever google machine you have and just look up USA international rankings. Pay special attention to:

1. healthcare
2. life expectancy
3. education
4. infant mortality rate
5. incarceration #'s
6. military budget
7. Environmental performance
8. Quality of life index
9. Any other metric that floats your boat

Its very important to understand how all these things are measured. EVERY country does it different. So don't believe everything you read. Take infant mortality. The country leading this pack does not count a birth until they reach 30 days old. A couple other use 15 days and a few use 1 year olds as the birth. So you have to know how an item is measured. The US count a birth the second it is born alive. And many countries don't count premature births. The US does. This also has a significant impact on life expectancy numbers. And healthcare is skewed horribly. Depending on how it is paid, it can take months to even get basic care in many countries. Wait times are awful. I am sure there are examples of items that if measured exactly the same way, things are better different places. But to just google that list gives you a great amount of false data.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by JimJohnson

Great news.
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This study sounds as much or maybe more promising than any others. Stop trying to demonize the Chinese as they may very well save lives.

The Communist Chinese Government originates the disease and are at war with us and you want to use their vaccine???

[coconutmama]

Originally Posted by biker1

Such as ... Be specific, with reputable references.

The USA ranks 7th or 15th in the world, depending on which survey you find. You can google that for specifics. As I recall it was based on multiple factors such as education, healthcare, infant mortality, environmental quality, housing, political stability & more. BTW, we have been adversely affected in the “world trust” category since 2016.

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

The Communist Chinese Government originates the disease and are at war with us and you want to use their vaccine???

If it's proven to work YES I WILL.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Dana1963

If it's proven to work YES I WILL.

So, if they tell you that it works, it's all OK.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

The Communist Chinese Government originates the disease and are at war with us and you want to use their vaccine???

Just can't make stuff like that up.....

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by Byte1

So, if they tell you that it works, it's all OK.

PROVEN IS THE SECRET WORD

COMPREHENSION please

[Skunky1]

China could also be like a pyromaniac one who starts fires and then comes around later to save the day