Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1959157)

The rich pay less taxes through the mechanism of Capital Gains. The rate is LOWER than rates on income!

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1958968)

Teacher gets paid to teach state approved curriculum, they don’t get to teach off the cuff. It they can’t teach what state has approved, then they need to find another job. They don’t get to change history or state approved curriculum.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1959157)

The rich pay less taxes through the mechanism of Capital Gains. The rate is LOWER than rates on income!

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1959160)

Oh, and a hypothesis is an idea that has not been shown to make useful predictions, as a theory. And the idea that a theory makes useful predictions, does not mean it is always right. In fact, theories are often wrong more than they are right. Newton's theory of gravity is wrong. It has been prov en to be wrong, but it works sometimes, and so is useful when it is "good enough"

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1959171)

Robots are NOT quite yet teaching school.

Originally Posted by Phantomf8 (Post 1958986)

Well written - EVERYONE should read this and LEARN!!!! Why did so many people die for this beautiful country with all of its faults? Were they "suckers" or were they fighting for what is described above - to preserve what we have built - not to have it torn down!!! We trust they did NOT die in vein!!!!! I've lost five members of my family in the last four wars - WWII, Korea, Vietnam and Iraq. Was it all for nought? Democracy is at best "messy" but its alternative "authoritarianism" [a rule of one] is worse! America resulted from a rebellion against the king [a rule of one] and now it is at risk of slipping back into those destructive chains of authoritarianism. Why? Because of the deep divisions and resultant anger [as so accurately described above] being played upon by political malfeasance.

The definitions of "equality" and "equity" are twisted around to define the moment which can result in a hazardous, slippery slope as defined in another response above - annihilation of capitalism is an extreme as is Marxism resulting in the eradication of the rule of law replaced by temporary "people power" which is self destructive and, in the long run, ends in authoritaranism such as exists in Russia. China's evolution of family dynasties till they were overthrown in the guise of "people power" again resulted in authoritarianism as we witness today.

Are we next? Are we going to tear each other apart until the rule of law is no longer? That gangsters - in the guise of preserving our country - will run rampant, as did the brown shirts before Hitler took control, suppressing and killing all those deemed in opposition to the new rule? Or ruler?

I for one, hope not! I pray that my, and everyone else's, ancestors did not die in vein defending this democracy. I pray that we ALL wake up in America, put down our frenzied differences, stop yelling at each other and LISTEN! There's the good, the bad and the ugly on all sides that need to be addressed so that we and democracy [no matter how messy] can survive!

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1959137)

This is as described by the far right. Google Critical Race Theory for more objective descriptions. The people who created Critical Race Theory are not Marxists as far as I can tell.

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1959154)

So your interpretation of "awful lot" is NO ONE.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit?

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1959156)

You obviously do not know what the word theory means.

A theory is just an idea that makes useful predictions, It is NOT the truth, it does not represent reality. When referred to as a "proven theory" it means it makes predictions that are mostly accurate. It is still a theory, unlike facts that can be proven to be true.

There are very few facts known.

Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1958355)

Curious why this is being pushed in our schools? This seems like it is designed to divide our country.

Originally Posted by dustyaljac (Post 1959195)

4.. Best place to Assure your Agenda works is plant and fertilize its growth is through young children's minds. Making Skin Color more important than personal accomplishment, morals and character.

Originally Posted by jimhurtt@twc.com (Post 1959093)

Please tell me how voting is being suppressed today. Every citizen of the United States can vote.

Originally Posted by Cview (Post 1959205)

Just curious, what would you folks feel appropriate to teach in the schools. Should school children know that segregation was the law in the south? Should Jim Crow laws be understood?? I never learned that the south enforced apartheid in the South till Johnson got Civil rights passed. How are students to understand this if they are never taught. Are we supposed to be proud of that???

Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1959139)

Honest discussions?/ Based on falsehoods?? Please read up on this. There is a reason why so many parents of school age children across our Nation are protesting this.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1959214)

And that reason is that the US is in an era of "crazy times chaos" from which it may or may NOT recover!

Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1959194)

So, you are saying nothing is proven and no one can know the facts? Sounds like faith to me. But the dictionary says this:

Theory definition: A coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena:

The key here is "commonly". CRT is certainly not commonly accepted.

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1959221)

You mean on the media sites you visit, you mean in your social circle?

Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1959217)

This I don't understand and this needs a tad bit more clarification

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1959228)

You need to pull up the post that I was replying to.

Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1959226)

:boxing2: :a040: :MOJE_whot:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1959230)

Think about it. It is a metaphor.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1959214)

And that reason is that the US is in an era of "crazy times chaos" from which it may or may NOT recover!

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1959233)

With current news unfolding and each day more revelations coming out of buried actions, I can see not able to recover, as the most likely.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1959214)

And that reason is that the US is in an era of "crazy times chaos" from which it may or may NOT recover!

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1959221)

Really, and you have something to back up that it is not commonly? You mean on the media sites you visit, you mean in your social circle?

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1959043)

And if those "truckloads" of votes are legitimate votes of legal voters? You seem to be saying sucks to be them, their votes should not be counted, because of some law. Refusing to count American Citizens votes sure sounds like voter suppression to me.

If those truckloads were from non-citizens (no proof) or covered in Chinese bamboo fibers (no proof) or dead people (no to very little proof) or people voting in multiple elections (no proof). Hmm, there seems to be a trend here. All the things claimed to be done and that laws need to be passed to prevent, and there is NO proof after hundreds of millions of dollars were donated to investigate them.

Originally Posted by JerryLBell (Post 1958374)

From what I've read, critical race theory is really two ideas.

The first is that the very idea of race is not based on biology or science of any kind. There's nothing about the physiology of humans that neatly divides humanity into categories like "white", "black", "Asian", etc. The attempts to divide people into these categories were done societally, not scientifically.

The second idea is that American history shows us that governments put in place in the Americas by European settlers were and continue to be racist in nature. To steal land away from the indigenous people, governments put into place laws that made those peoples have fewer or any rights and encouraged the suppression of those peoples. Prior to the industrial revolution, manual labor was vital and slave labor was cheaper than paid labor, so laws were put into place to allow kidnapping, torturing and enslaving peoples from other countries, especially Africa. Laws were put into place over time to exclude Asians. During World War II, people of Japanese heritage were robbed of their properties and imprisoned while people of German heritage were not. Even after the emancipation of enslaved people in America, voting rights were suppressed and continue to be so to this day.

Critical race theory doesn't paint an artificially pretty picture of American history or governance. If you read history deeply, however, it is probably a more accurate picture. Does this divide people? Possibly. Some people are averse to learning unpleasant truths. I've always thought that true patriotism wasn't blindly loving ones country, right or wrong but rather wanting the best for and out of ones country, realizing when ones country was wrong or doing wrong and changing it for the better even if that involves discomfort and hard work.

America isn't perfect and never was. It gets better over time, despite occasional backsliding. I hope it continues to get better and better in the future. Pretending we are and have been perfect won't help us get there.

But that's just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1958415)

A Lesson on Critical Race Theory

Looks very complicated. Teachers should be able to decide which students could handle this. Beltway bigwigs should not determine it. Leave it to the educators.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1959122)

Blacks and Browns are suppressed by gerrymandering for one thing. And by the NEW laws passed by Arizona, Utah, Georgia, and Florida. We ALL remember voting lines in Atlanta stretching back for four blocks. That's Suppression with a capital S.

Originally Posted by S=kBlogW (Post 1959290)

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 View Post
A Lesson on Critical Race Theory

Looks very complicated. Teachers should be able to decide which students could handle this. Beltway bigwigs should not determine it. Leave it to the educators.



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Originally Posted by JerryLBell (Post 1958374)

From what I've read, critical race theory is really two ideas.

The first is that the very idea of race is not based on biology or science of any kind. There's nothing about the physiology of humans that neatly divides humanity into categories like "white", "black", "Asian", etc. The attempts to divide people into these categories were done societally, not scientifically.

The second idea is that American history shows us that governments put in place in the Americas by European settlers were and continue to be racist in nature. To steal land away from the indigenous people, governments put into place laws that made those peoples have fewer or any rights and encouraged the suppression of those peoples. Prior to the industrial revolution, manual labor was vital and slave labor was cheaper than paid labor, so laws were put into place to allow kidnapping, torturing and enslaving peoples from other countries, especially Africa. Laws were put into place over time to exclude Asians. During World War II, people of Japanese heritage were robbed of their properties and imprisoned while people of German heritage were not. Even after the emancipation of enslaved people in America, voting rights were suppressed and continue to be so to this day.

Critical race theory doesn't paint an artificially pretty picture of American history or governance. If you read history deeply, however, it is probably a more accurate picture. Does this divide people? Possibly. Some people are averse to learning unpleasant truths. I've always thought that true patriotism wasn't blindly loving ones country, right or wrong but rather wanting the best for and out of ones country, realizing when ones country was wrong or doing wrong and changing it for the better even if that involves discomfort and hard work.

America isn't perfect and never was. It gets better over time, despite occasional backsliding. I hope it continues to get better and better in the future. Pretending we are and have been perfect won't help us get there.

But that's just my opinion.

Originally Posted by lkagele (Post 1959243)

Give us a break. Of course there are laws/rules/regulations governing the voting process and rightfully so. Without them the voting process would be chaos. Think about it in this way. EVERY state has statute of limitations outlining the time frame in which to file a lawsuit. Is that suppression too? What would you say if 500,000 votes came in tomorrow for Trump in one of the swing states? Just like the rest of us, you would say it's too late. It would have nothing to do with voter suppression.

The rules governing peoples' right to vote are actually quite simple. Frankly, if someone can't figure out the voting rules then maybe they shouldn't be voting. The right to vote is a sacred duty. Proper rules have to be in place so the public has little to no cause to suspect voter fraud.