Simply stated!!
Intellectualizing it is akin to sorting fly specs from pepper!!

Thank you ! You are absolutely correct

Teach our children the truth.

Why push to change history.

As children find that they have been lied to, they will ask WHY.

A comment from Texas, and while I am oft criticized for giving links, I am sorry...do not have the source..

"Texas banning Critical Race Theory is like Baylor banning pre-marital sex because it might lead to dancing."

Bottom line, teach our children how the pigment of skin was the basis of our hierarchy, shame on us.

The Problem of Slavery in Western Culture - Wikipedia

David Brion Davis - Wikipedia

Think it had more to do with cotton in the South and cultivating it with cheap labor.

Slaves in ancient times could have had any skin color and come from any country. But it was about cheap labor and control of it. Other things too.

I'm wary of the public school system in general. Yes, there are so many talented and giving and unselfish teachers everywhere. I applaud them openly.

But, then again, so many public systems, in my experience, are disingenuous in their teachings. There are so many subtle nuances in their teachings.

I support public schools in three different counties so I feel entitled to my 'opinion'. I know teachers all through New England. I read their bumper stickers. I see their posts in local message boards. They have strong opinions. And they all seem to be in unison.

Please, spare me the enlightened theme.

I support public schools, private schools and charter schools.

Many of their parents in New England would have the very same strong opinions.

One problem with your question -- critical race theory it's not being taught in schools. It's being hyped by some media and politicians just like Sharia Law was hyped in recent years as though it's a real problem...just to scare people. Let's not fall victim to yet another bunch of hokum.

Teachers can be opinionated like anyone else. And could very well have different opinions than a student's parents.

I've known several personally. Their inclinations and positions are painfully obvious. Well, be objective in the classroom, if you can.

You want to talk about Teacher's Unions or get banned from TOTV?

It might come up at law schools more often and once in a while in college in History, Philosophy, Art, Literature, Political Science, and other kinds of classes.

Probably not so much anywhere below 10th grade. And then only if they see it all over the news. Then everyone gets in the fray.

Black Americans have been systematically subjected to overt and hidden racism and racial agendas since they arrived on this continent in 1619. Those who deny it are likely hidden racists or overt racists themselves as they simply see what happened as "history" and not a big deal. I offer a passage I came across today doing a family tree. It is from a newspaper in Bluefield WV in 1911, a Union state I would point out and 50 years after the South formed a new country to protect slavery as the most import right of their states.

A bill has been drafted to separate white and colored races on railroads, preferably in separate cars but if needed in separate areas of single cars.

"The separate accommodations.. the demand for it being practically unanimous among the white people. Many of the better class of colored people also favor the law as they realize that it means better accommodations for their people than can be given under existing conditions and also that whatever is a tendency to lessen the friction between the two races is greatly to the benefit of the colored people. Of course there are some colored people who opposed to the measure but they would equally be opposed to separate schools and we all know that this is not the sentiment of the better colored people. Properly looked at the law cannot be considered in any sense as an effort to discriminate against the negro"

This is the real American history. This is what white people did and still do to convince themselves that they are being more than fair to those negro people who at least the better negroes see as the best way forward. Why everyone knows a negro wouldn't want to be in a white school, and there is going to be friction if the races don't stay separated. Tell me Fox people, can you hear the 1911 version of Hannity making this speech?

Critical race theory would teach this material, and yes it might lead some bright students to see the parallels between the kind of mental gymnastics that Senator French used and that used now. Certainly can't present that sort of material or it might open some eyes to the reality of the ugly ugly history of racism that neither ended with the Civil War nor the election of 2008.

Website by Cornell Law School professor tracks CRT training in schools

Critical Race Training in Education

Created by William Jacobson, a known conservative activist who has had videos on YouTube taken down

His record of right wing extremist views is well known.

Again, allow elected officials and activists in the P arena to dictate what is taught, as a replacement for truth, to our children ?

What happened to the US. I think most Of us (at least 70%) are asking ourselves that question. I can think of about 10 factors. I can talk about one of them that relates directly to CRT, which I think is a clumsy and confusing name. (It has caused confusion here. It does seem foreign or socialist-type scary) I would call it.....teaching the TRUE history of the US......not WHITEwashing it (pun intended). A free society has zero reasons to try to duck the TRUTH. My high school never mentioned the Tulsa massacre or the Rosewood, Fl one. I was mature enough in 8th grade to take in those TRUTHS. I had Black friends that I played sports with that I could have had a reasonable conversation with on that subject. Race relations would be SO much better today if in 1965 President Johnson had EXTENDED Civil Rights laws to encourage Blacks and White to live in the SAME neighborhoods - by tax credits for builders of new developments or whatever would have made that happen. In the 60s my white neighborhood was physically far away from the Black neighborhood in the same town - that made RELATING to each other more difficult. In college and in the Air Farce, it was much easier to relate to other races - there was less physical SEPERATION!

Jacobsen is a lot more credible than far left extremists at NYT CNN MSNBC CBS etc etc Their record of far left extremist views is well known

See how this works?

Teachers and their unions are completely activist and political. Take a look at their donation records.

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I doubt that the teachers in Kansas and Nebraska are particularly radical - maybe many in the Northeast and Ca. and Wa. - and I could see those as being SOMEWHAT left of center, but still PATRIOTIC and NOT all out Mao-type communists. The dangerous segments of society today are the anarchists, the proud boys, the QANON followers, and other dark media viewers.

I NEVER suggested that Blacks and Browns were too ignorant at ANYTHING. I WOULD suggest that maybe you should get more informed about the dark, hidden ramifications about the lines drawn by gerrymandering.

Actually, you did by insinuation. I have yet to see ANY evidence that blacks and browns are kept from voting due to "gerrymandering" and that is what you indicated. You seem to assume that ALL blacks and browns vote according to a particular party line, but even then it just isn't so. No American citizen is hindered from voting today. Not even the dead, apparently.

And once again, you are making the discussion into a political theme and it will likely be closed

1, I am married to a public school teacher who taught for 34 years

2. I have been a substitute teacher my self for a few years. But most of my time was spent working for the GOP. Yes...the GOP. Party left me when it became radical and un American.

3. Teacher Unions are active, and in fact exist because of tenure laws. That means, without tenure they can be fired at the whim of any politically elected person, no matter their reviews or performance.

4. Nobody teaches what you folks are railing against. It is not a subject, and if you took the time to read about it, you would find it is not something to fear as you are being told.

5. Read this as a start....What Is Critical Race Theory, and Why Is It Under Attack?

6. New York Post May be the only place you will see what you posted. A another Murdoch (think Fox) entity....both of them under severe pressure to become more extreme as ratings have tumbled.

Just wanted to make sure you know that I know “how this works” before you challenge me again. You really have no clue.

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Some of us, in THIS lifetime, are a little too SUPERFICIAL - let us hope that the next lifetime bodes better - where ALL the ramifications of CRT and gerrymandering are explained - starting in 4th grade.

Fox ratings have tumbled? Why are you posting misinformation?

Hint: Bigger numbers means you have more viewers and higher ratings

Total Viewers (Live+SD x 1,000)

Total Day: FNC: 1.477 | CNN: 624 | MSNBC: 1.040
Prime: FNC: 2.523 | CNN: 835 | MSNBC: 1.866

Thursday, June 10 Scoreboard: Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham Finish No. 1 and No. 2 Among Adults 25-54 | TVNewser

Or maybe you are referring to the overall decline in TV news viewership? They have all declined because no more Covid panic porn and election hysteria. The fact remains that as of this week, 4 out of the top 5 most viewed TV news programs are produced by FOX

Here are the declines as of June 2

In the 25-54 demo, Fox News was at 203,000, down 38%, followed by CNN with 147,000, off by 51%, and MSNBC with 108,000, down 39%.

Perhaps math is not your strong point.

US economy "NOT based on slave labor"? I remember reading that from colonial days onward, cotton cheaply raised by slave labor, created GREAT early wealth that stayed with the US even till today.

In colonial times Northeastern industrial production and the fishing industry operating in the Great Banks eclipsed southern cotton crops in wealth production. Cotton production was beneficial to the few southern states. Fact.

Interesting. While you are on the subject, and if you don't mind, who long exactly has it been since you and/or your spouse taught public school? The reason I ask is that we are speaking of CRT being taught today, and it has been reported in several states as being taught today. I doubt sincerely that it is only FOX that is reporting this, because I do not (or rarely) watch FOX news. Not that I have anything against it, but I tend to read my news other than the local weather.
I have seen/read reports of children bringing home school work where they are studying CRT, even if it is not labeled CRT. Sorry, but I do not believe that someone has deliberately made up this "conspiracy."
I apologize if you misconstrue this as an accusation that you are wrong. I am just suggesting that since you do not teach now(or do you?) and do not teach in all the states in the U.S. of A. then you cannot definitely state that CRT is NOT being taught.

I applaud your loyalty to unions, even though I consider them wrong for America now. I do believe they had their place years ago, before the gov imposed employment regulations protecting most employee rights. IMO unions are a tool of the socialists, and I am anti-socialist when it comes to our country. I am sure that some social programs have been beneficial for some folks, but private enterprise has always been superior and of more benefit for our country. I have not seen a business yet that the Feds can operate efficiently.

Thank you for your many years of servicing America's children. I have great admiration for most teachers and I do know the limits and regulations that the gov has put on teaching today. And it is too bad that unions tend to spend most of their effort protecting bad teachers.

Colonial America was under British law. England felt that the main purpose of the colonies was to contribute to the wealth and power of his majesty's land. While slavery was not a part of life in England, it was a part of its colonies so that goods and agricultural products could be produced cheaply. England relied on its trade with the colonies for tobacco and other crops that were farmed on large tracts in the south. When the American Constitutional government was formed in the late 1700's slavery had been a part of the southern economic system for a century and a half. Slavery existed in colonial America because England tolerated it for financial reason. The 1619 "project" is a distorted view of history driven by anti-American radicals in my view.

Nope, only about 40 years, from about 1820-1860 and then share cropping replaced the cotton driven economy.

To sum up CRT theory, they basically want to start history around 1600 and blame everything on white people. :a040: Anything that happened before then is forbidden from being discussed.

I don’t know where you grew up and went to school, but we learned about slavery, the Underground Railroad, Rosa Parks, the lynchings and cross burning perpetrated by the KKK in grade school. I went to high school during the era of forced bussing to fully integrate schools. Looking back, my friends were a mix of white, black & Asian - but back then, they were just friends. It’s the people who want to classify others by their race, who are the real racists. The media and others who do their best to continually drive a wedge between people, truly disgust me…

That right there is why we need for the next generations, and the ones after that, and the ones after that, to be taught the truths.

The Tulsa Race Massacre was not "race riots." White men were deputized by the local constabulary. They looted buildings, destroyed houses, and murdered black people with the permission, blessing, encouragement, and authorization of the law.

The reason: the black people in the area were doing well. Prospering, profiting, becoming affluent.

CRT goes back about 40 years, AND IT IS NOT A SUBJECT THAT IS TAUGHT.....why you cannot understand it is probably because all you are hearing is "noise" and an agenda item not discussed until it was made a part of the plank to run on.

You would probably want to know, but won't based on your selection of reading and your lack of wanting to know, it is probably as critical of the left as anything.

This is not about unions, teachers or any such thing. I read somewhere it has been labeled..."laws being passed in search of a problem"

This is totally about a tact for getting elected.

Gosh that sounds just like the BLM riots, including the fact that lots of black people were murdered by black people without a squeak from the media.

You need to practice your whataboutism better. You make no sense. Black people in the BLM riots were not deputized by the local law enforcement and ordered to murder, loot, and destroy property.

Oh okay. So all the black people and police officers murdered in the BLM riots can rest assured that their murderers were not deputized or ordered by anyone.

I'm sure their families feel so much better now. And all those businesses, homes etc burnt to the ground, it's all good cuz nobody ordered the rioters to do so.

This is simply another....yet another thread that goes on and on to bash an entire race because they are not the same color of skin. These people seem to want to vent their hatred, fear, lack of......and they are allowed to do it.

CRT was simply the door they wanted to open since the extreme folks want this to be an issue in 2022 thus they are burying their "subjects" with buzz words, misinformation, etc. to get it started.

Simply tell our young people the truth

"Covid panic porn"........If you REALLY believe that, I feel sorry for you. A mind is a bad thing to get propagandized!

"Unions wrong for America now". Unions seem to work FINE in Germany and the world seems to want to buy BMWs and Mercedes Benz automobiles.

A bad attempt at what-about-ism. Very different situations.

I support diversity in our schools. So, hire teachers with different points of view. All points of view.

(Wasn't sure how to word that one...)

Earlier a poster noted he used to support the GOP.

Well, I grew up as a Democrat. Eventually became an Independent. And now I'm a Republican. There's three points of view.