[Bellavita]

There is no difference, at all. People seeking a better life will move with their feet, unfortunately Cuba is separated by an ocean. Marco Rubio wants to support Cuba not South America where is the difference.

Hang on when climate change continues there will be a people migration the world has yet to see.

Originally Posted by Susan1717

Please help me to understand; our Cuban neighbors are fighting communism waving our American flag for freedom and seeking food against starvation and medical assistance from poor neglected health issues. Why are they being denied help and not welcomed to the States but our southern border is open allowing pretty much anyone else in including immigrants that may have Covid, drugs, trafficking children, and history of any crimes. We have so many people stuffed into unhealthy tents at our southern border with horrible conditions and that had been abused by cartel coyotes, plus a threat to the local ranchers. Our coast guards are given strict orders to not allow the people from Cuba asylum into the States. Clearly they are starved and fighting for freedom. Help me to understand the difference?!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Proveone

First of all stop listening to the NOISE Cable Propaganda networks - Fox, NewsMax, One America. All you are doing is parroting what you have heard by consuming misinformation.

FOX News! Everybody drink!

Do some legitimate fact checking! What you have stated is not accurate.

Yeah! Get your news from reliable sources like CNN & MSNBC!

Cuban rebels revolted against a Fascist government in the 1950's. They tried Communism but now with the pandemic they are falling on had times. There is no easy solution under the health situation that the world is going through right now.

The current situation in Cuba has nothing to do with Covid. You're just "parroting what you have heard by consuming misinformation."

I visited Cuba 2 years ago (well before Covid). It was a travesty then and it's still a travesty. And it will be a travesty long after Covid is under control...

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Doro22

I too was born & raised in Miami and have several Cuban friends. Most are wonderful hard working people with good family values. Many professional people who came to Miami started out at the bottom and worked tirelessly to become American citizens and regain their professional occupations as doctors, lawyers, teachers, business people etc. They lived & know what living under a socialist regime is like. Thus they vote GOP. That is why current president has this policy.

I agree with your characterization of Cuban refugees. I have also know a lot of “illegal” refugees, and most of them are hard working honest people just trying to create a better life for their families.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

but was useful to the people of Cuba....many profited once travel to Cuba was opened up

Yeah, not so much... They were still making well under $100/month... A few people in the tourism industry, those who could afford the bribes, made some money...

it's ridiculous that I can buy clothing made in Vietnam but there are sanctions against Cuba because politicians want the support of the Cuba Americans

Well, Vietnam normalized relations with the US. Cuba is still in the pocket of Russia and Venezuela...

[Becca9800]

Originally Posted by Moderator

This thread has been cleaned up and infractions issued for yet more political posts. We believe that this is an important topic and will try to let it run a bit longer. Please keep the political views out of it.

Moderator

Dear Moderator, I don't know how it would be possible to discuss a fully political issue and keep politics out of the discussion. The Cuban people are protesting their government ONLY because of the Cuban government's policies. And yes, this is a mighty important current event that America's adults should be allowed to freely discuss, the leniency is appreciated. Thank you.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bellavita

There is no difference, at all. People seeking a better life will move with their feet, unfortunately Cuba is separated by an ocean. Marco Rubio wants to support Cuba not South America where is the difference.

Hang on when climate change continues there will be a people migration the world has yet to see.

The difference is the laws in place.

Cubans have a special status, that has been in place for over 50 years...

Cuban Adjustment Act - Wikipedia

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Bellavita

There is no difference, at all. People seeking a better life will move with their feet, unfortunately Cuba is separated by an ocean. Marco Rubio wants to support Cuba not South America where is the difference.

Hang on when climate change continues there will be a people migration the world has yet to see.

So you agree all should only be allowed into the country if they follow the legal path?

[Moderator]

Originally Posted by Becca9800

Dear Moderator, I don't know how it would be possible to discuss a fully political issue and keep politics out of the discussion. The Cuban people are protesting their government ONLY because of the Cuban government's policies. And yes, this is a mighty important current event that America's adults should be allowed to freely discuss, the leniency is appreciated. Thank you.

That is very true. But as long as the site owners want us to enforce the "No politics" rule we either shut down anything that relates to politics or we find a way to discuss things in a non political way. It is what it is.

Moderator

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by djspinner1

The Dem's do not want to help them because they will not get their vote.

True. Cubans know the dangers of socialism and communism.

[Cheiro]

Originally Posted by Susan1717

Please help me to understand; our Cuban neighbors are fighting communism waving our American flag for freedom and seeking food against starvation and medical assistance from poor neglected health issues. Why are they being denied help and not welcomed to the States but our southern border is open allowing pretty much anyone else in including immigrants that may have Covid, drugs, trafficking children, and history of any crimes. We have so many people stuffed into unhealthy tents at our southern border with horrible conditions and that had been abused by cartel coyotes, plus a threat to the local ranchers. Our coast guards are given strict orders to not allow the people from Cuba asylum into the States. Clearly they are starved and fighting for freedom. Help me to understand the difference?!

Hi,
My cousin is a border agent on the southern border and from what he tells me it is not true that the border is wide open, everyone is not just being allowed in and anyone who promotes that idea either does not know what they are talking about, or is just spreading falsehoods to frighten the American public. There is a procedure for those seeking asylum and the difficulty comes from the volume of those doing so at the moment. The process is being made more difficult by the interference from those being sent there by the governors from other states supposedly to help "guard" the border. These supposed guards are more hindrance than help. With regard to Cubans, they have been welcomed in to the US for the past 60 years and there is a special exemption for admittance for them. Many Cubans know that when they come to the southern border and that they can be accepted for asylum much easier there.

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Cheiro

Hi,
My cousin is a border agent on the southern border and from what he tells me it is not true that the border is wide open, everyone is not just being allowed in and anyone who promotes that idea either does not know what they are talking about, or is just spreading falsehoods to frighten the American public. There is a procedure for those seeking asylum and the difficulty comes from the volume of those doing so at the moment. The process is being made more difficult by the interference from those being sent there by the governors from other states supposedly to help "guard" the border. These supposed guards are more hindrance than help. With regard to Cubans, they have been welcomed in to the US for the past 60 years and there is a special exemption for admittance for them. Many Cubans know that when they come to the southern border and that they can be accepted for asylum much easier there.

My old college roommate is a border guard and informs me that the border is wide open. They can only give the illegal aliens tickets to appear at a future date, and the vast majority of them never appear. Worse yet, is that our military are being used to move the illegals around the country to various cities. Anyone who says otherwise is gullible and uninformed.

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Susan1717

Please help me to understand; our Cuban neighbors are fighting communism waving our American flag for freedom and seeking food against starvation and medical assistance from poor neglected health issues. Why are they being denied help and not welcomed to the States but our southern border is open allowing pretty much anyone else in including immigrants that may have Covid, drugs, trafficking children, and history of any crimes. We have so many people stuffed into unhealthy tents at our southern border with horrible conditions and that had been abused by cartel coyotes, plus a threat to the local ranchers. Our coast guards are given strict orders to not allow the people from Cuba asylum into the States. Clearly they are starved and fighting for freedom. Help me to understand the difference?!

You don’t suppose the Cuban’s are waving our American flag just to make us think they’re our side or do think they just trying to get FREE entry into the U.S. I don’t care either way BUT if they want be American citizens do it the right way & I’ll personally shake their hands!

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Cheiro

Hi,
My cousin is a border agent on the southern border and from what he tells me it is not true that the border is wide open, everyone is not just being allowed in and anyone who promotes that idea either does not know what they are talking about, or is just spreading falsehoods to frighten the American public. There is a procedure for those seeking asylum and the difficulty comes from the volume of those doing so at the moment. The process is being made more difficult by the interference from those being sent there by the governors from other states supposedly to help "guard" the border. These supposed guards are more hindrance than help. With regard to Cubans, they have been welcomed in to the US for the past 60 years and there is a special exemption for admittance for them. Many Cubans know that when they come to the southern border and that they can be accepted for asylum much easier there.

If that is true, then why do we see videos every day of people entering the country, but never see videos of people leaving or being turned away? Seeing is believing.

[nhtexasrn]

Originally Posted by Susan1717

Please help me to understand; our Cuban neighbors are fighting communism waving our American flag for freedom and seeking food against starvation and medical assistance from poor neglected health issues. Why are they being denied help and not welcomed to the States but our southern border is open allowing pretty much anyone else in including immigrants that may have Covid, drugs, trafficking children, and history of any crimes. We have so many people stuffed into unhealthy tents at our southern border with horrible conditions and that had been abused by cartel coyotes, plus a threat to the local ranchers. Our coast guards are given strict orders to not allow the people from Cuba asylum into the States. Clearly they are starved and fighting for freedom. Help me to understand the difference?!

I too do not understand why our government is telling Cubans they won't get in the country if they make it here especially after changing our southern border policies and allowing thousands of illegals to flood in from South American countries of which we give millions of dollars in aid every year. Of course, there are some people blaming the US sanctions on Cuba for the conditions there, but it is much more complicated that that. Somehow they forget that the Castro regime embraced the then Soviet Union, allowing them to bring nuclear missiles to Cuba and point them at the US. The communist regime also seized private property and possessions and cast their people in to poverty, or in many cases executing them or throwing them in prison, all the while becoming wealthy themselves. I'm certainly no expert on Cuba, but these are the things I remember and my heart goes out to the Cuban people who have suffered for so many years. There has to be something we can do to help them!!

[jbartle1]

Originally Posted by Proveone

First of all stop listening to the NOISE Cable Propaganda networks - Fox, NewsMax, One America. All you are doing is parroting what you have heard by consuming misinformation. Do some legitimate fact checking! What you have stated is not accurate. Cuban rebels revolted against a Fascist government in the 1950's. They tried Communism but now with the pandemic they are falling on had times. There is no easy solution under the health situation that the world is going through right now.

Finally, the voice of reason, please folks, fact check, not fox check, there is a difference, one is the truth, the other, not so much!!!