[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I still see people wearing masks in their own cars and golf carts. Heck, sometimes I forget to take MY mask off, even though I hate the damned things and would love nothing better than to toss my box of disposables in the trash. It doesn't bother me a bit. It doesn't make me laugh, it doesn't make me feel sorry for anyone, it doesn't stir up any emotion or trigger any response at all other than to acknowledge, "yup, that's a mask on his face alright."

I think anyone who gets triggered in ANY way by someone wearing a mask in their own vehicle needs a visit to the local memory care center, where there are a LOT of more significant issues to comment about. Like someone forgetting their name, or the fact that they're married, or how to communicate when they're hungry.

I agree, I often forget to take my mask off when I return to my car. It is just a habit. I just returned from Cuenca Ecuador where in 3 weeks I saw maybe one person without a mask. For me returning here and seeing half of the faces in
Publix bare is disconcerting.

I also have had both vaccine shots and in the last 4 weeks have tested negative 3 times, the tests were required for travel, and for a doctor's appointment this Friday.

Personally, I see no reason for anything less than an overabundance of caution, but until vaccination and masks are required people are free to do what they want.

[Love2Swim]

And meanwhile, Tucker Carlson on Fox News, said that if you see children wearing masks, you should call the police and report the parents for child abuse. He also urged viewers to harass strangers for wearing masks. And a private school in Miami is saying that it is now against school policy for teachers and/or students to get vaccinated. Yikes! The world is full of idiots.

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I'm with you.....have never ever worn a mask OUTDOORS and always distance from others but I'm a strong proponent of masking INDOORS.

There have probably been people who have seen you outside without a mask on thinking: "Wow! Look at that reckless lady walking around outside without a mask! She's going to get us all infected!"

And there are probably people who haven't set foot outside since this whole Covid thing began thinking: "Wow! Look at all of those reckless people walking around outside acting like those masks are going to protect them!" These are the folks who still sanitize their mail and delivery orders before bringing them inside.

What is safe to you may not be safe to me or vice versa. That's why it's best to mitigate our own risks and let others do the same for themselves.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I'm with you.....have never ever worn a mask OUTDOORS and always distance from others but I'm a strong proponent of masking INDOORS.

As an aside....What did Carlson have to say. I didn't see it.

I didn't see it because I'm not in love with Fox News ever since they booted O'reilly, but apparently he was encouraging people to "shame" parents who were watching their kids play outdoors with a mask on and with masks on their kids. He suggested calling police or children's services because he viewed it as a form of child abuse----no idea where he was coming from. But to balance it out, I heard a blurb on a liberal talk show this morning that suggested Carlson was trying to pave the way for fascism in America. I don't know which of them is more demented.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

There have probably been people who have seen you outside without a mask on thinking: "Wow! Look at that reckless lady walking around outside without a mask! She's going to get us all infected!"

And there are probably people who haven't set foot outside since this whole Covid thing began thinking: "Wow! Look at all of those reckless people walking around outside acting like those masks are going to protect them!" These are the folks who still sanitize their mail and delivery orders before bringing them inside.

What is safe to you may not be safe to me or vice versa. That's why it's best to mitigate our own risks and let others do the same for themselves.

Sorry, but what is safe IS safe. This is a black and white issue, there are no shades of gray and no room for personal opinion on the matter. From the beginning there have been unknowns, but outdoor mask wearing is no longer one of them

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA

Very few people have done any research on these vaccines.

These 23 companies are working on coronavirus treatments or vaccines — here’s where things stand - MarketWatch

Only 23 companies and thousands of scientists...

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

These 23 companies are working on coronavirus treatments or vaccines — here’s where things stand - MarketWatch

Only 23 companies and thousands of scientists...

But don't forget the millions of amateur physicians armed with google

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I didn't see it because I'm not in love with Fox News ever since they booted O'reilly, but apparently he was encouraging people to "shame" parents who were watching their kids play outdoors with a mask on and with masks on their kids. He suggested calling police or children's services because he viewed it as a form of child abuse----no idea where he was coming from. But to balance it out, I heard a blurb on a liberal talk show this morning that suggested Carlson was trying to pave the way for fascism in America. I don't know which of them is more demented.

In addition to suggesting that you should call Children's Service about children, he suggested that "we" " should ask people wearing masks outside to remove them". He also mentioned "having a child wear a mask is child abuse"

Full, unedited quote....on general mask wearing


"“They’re the aggressors,” Carlson said of people who wear masks during the segment. “It’s our job to brush them back and restore the society we were born in. So the next time you see someone in a mask on the sidewalk or on the bike path, do not hesitate. Ask politely but firmly, ‘Would you please take off your mask? Science shows there is no reason for you to be wearing it. Your mask is making me uncomfortable.’”"

[Bucco]

"Carlson also said “the only people who wear masks outside are zealots and neurotics” and said seeing a vaccinated person wear a mask outdoors was like “watching a grown man expose himself in public”.

“Your response when you see children wearing masks as they play should be no different from your response to seeing someone beat a kid in Walmart,” he said.

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Sorry, but what is safe IS safe. This is a black and white issue, there are no shades of gray and no room for personal opinion on the matter. From the beginning there have been unknowns, but outdoor mask wearing is no longer one of them

Last week on Tuesday it was still not declared safe to be outside w/o a mask on. Apparently the powers that be have decided that TODAY it is safe to no longer wear a mask outside.

I have never worn a mask outside nor have I sanitized my mail. At one point, that was apparently a thing though.

Remember when they closed down the beaches?

We have also been told that homemade cloth masks are going to stop a killer virus from spreading. We've been told lots of stuff.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

Last week on Tuesday it was still not declared safe to be outside w/o a mask on. Apparently the powers that be have decided that TODAY it is safe to no longer wear a mask outside.

I have never worn a mask outside nor have I sanitized my mail. At one point, that was apparently a thing though.

Remember when they closed down the beaches?

We have also been told that homemade cloth masks are going to stop a killer virus from spreading. We've been told lots of stuff.

It certainly has been a moving target. What will tomorrow bring?

But I do wonder whether it was always safe to be outside without a mask----probably not in a crowd, but for all normal activity? And did CDC know this early on but had no good exit strategy from their original position?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bucco

"Carlson also said “the only people who wear masks outside are zealots and neurotics” and said seeing a vaccinated person wear a mask outdoors was like “watching a grown man expose himself in public”.

“Your response when you see children wearing masks as they play should be no different from your response to seeing someone beat a kid in Walmart,” he said.

Originally Posted by Bucco

In addition to suggesting that you should call Children's Service about children, he suggested that "we" " should ask people wearing masks outside to remove them". He also mentioned "having a child wear a mask is child abuse"

Full, unedited quote....on general mask wearing


"“They’re the aggressors,” Carlson said of people who wear masks during the segment. “It’s our job to brush them back and restore the society we were born in. So the next time you see someone in a mask on the sidewalk or on the bike path, do not hesitate. Ask politely but firmly, ‘Would you please take off your mask? Science shows there is no reason for you to be wearing it. Your mask is making me uncomfortable.’”"

Amazing. Did he suggest bring a gun to emphasize that the mask was making him uncomfortable????
Even though he is basically correct in that outdoor masks are useless, child abuse???, confront the wearer????
I think his producers and writers went off the deep end on this one

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Amazing. Did he suggest bring a gun to emphasize that the mask was making him uncomfortable????
Even though he is basically correct in that outdoor masks are useless, child abuse???, confront the wearer????
I think his producers and writers went off the deep end on this one

It has become the norm the last few years.

If you disagree, be rude, meanspirited, mock personally, to get attention.

Making a point with facts is passé.

His associate, Gutfeld, a few days ago had the need to belittle others when he said,...."You should only wear a mask outside if you plan on robbing an ice cream truck"

Okay to disagree, but these folks make bullying a real art form.

Disagreeing and saying it with class is gone....insult, accuse is in with certain folks.

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

It certainly has been a moving target. What will tomorrow bring?

But I do wonder whether it was always safe to be outside without a mask----probably not in a crowd, but for all normal activity? And did CDC know this early on but had no good exit strategy from their original position?

I do not know what the CDC knew or didn't know. I can say that they are going to have some extreme credibility problems after all of this. "Don't mask! No, wait, Wear a mask! No, we mean Double Mask!!" Just make sure that they are homemade masks and not the good ones.

Sanitizing the cart handles, sanitize your mail, sanitize your groceries....but, wait, you don't really need to do that.

"Keep kids home from school" "No, wait, kids learn best at their physical schools. Send the kids to school!"

"Kids can't get the virus....but they have to wear masks and social distance...but they can't get the vaccine until we know it's safe"

Oh, and the beach is safe.

Head spinning lunacy.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

It certainly has been a moving target. What will tomorrow bring?

But I do wonder whether it was always safe to be outside without a mask----probably not in a crowd, but for all normal activity? And did CDC know this early on but had no good exit strategy from their original position?

My personal opinion based on experience is this....the Government will always err on the side of caution.

They are not speaking justto educated and sophisticated people like we think we are, but to a huge nation. We, whomever calls the government whatever name, are not the only folks on this planet, nor in this country.

Most intelligent people are listening, discussing and making reasonable decisions.

Used to be that way from coast to coast....now, all us smart A need to make fun, search for any false narrative we can, and the meaner and more personal the better.

Yet, we come on here and say "others" are irresponsible.

Sorry, maybe it's my age, but this condescending attitude as if the entire world revolved about our village just irks me. Hearing good people get mocked, called names, etc. simply because they are trying to do the right thing irks me.

Sound like the bully in elementary school ?