[Wiserbud47]

I believe there is a fairly simple reason why we are being told that even though you have been vaccinated, that you should still continue to wear a mask and practice social distancing.
They can not have one group exempt from the mandated or recommended rules. "All people in this plane must wear a mask, except those people who have been vaccinated." That would be impossible to enforce. Therefore, if you still should wear a mask after you get vaccinated, they have no problem. "Everyone must wear a mask on the plane." It is simply a matter of making the enforcement of the current mandates continue to be possible.

[oneclickplus]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

So:


if you add the word "ultimately" between "but it will" and "protect your family"...

I think that'd clear up the confusion. The less likely any of you are to get the virus, the less likely any of you are to spread the virus. Even if that reduced risk isn't immediate, it will, at some point, be a reduced risk of spreading as a direct result of vaccination.

I didn't find anything unclear about that. I just added the word "ultimately" and it made total sense. That's pretty much how vaccines have worked historically to eradicate or drastically reduce the risk of spreading pretty much every illness that you can be vaccinated for. The more people with the vaccine, the less likely anyone will get sick. Including family and friends.

But at this stage in the game, "reduced risk" does not mean "100% immunity." So you maintain social distancing and mask wearing and hand sanitizing to cover your bets.

LOL - I could make any idiot make sense if I get to edit their quotes.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Wiserbud47

I believe there is a fairly simple reason why we are being told that even though you have been vaccinated, that you should still continue to wear a mask and practice social distancing.
They can not have one group exempt from the mandated or recommended rules. "All people in this plane must wear a mask, except those people who have been vaccinated." That would be impossible to enforce. Therefore, if you still should wear a mask after you get vaccinated, they have no problem. "Everyone must wear a mask on the plane." It is simply a matter of making the enforcement of the current mandates continue to be possible.

I thought about this too, given your example. I found this which better explains what may be going on......

Effective Immunity and the COVID-19 Vaccines

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

LOL - I could make any idiot make sense if I get to edit their quotes.

On TOTV, someone actually DID edit one of my quotes. It happened only once that I know of but I was not very appreciative of that. That edit made my POV the exact opposite of my view on the subject.

[Bearlythere]

Steve Hilton investigates origins of COVID-19, links to US commissioned research | On Air Videos | Fox News , People should know who Dr. Fauci really is.

[villageuser]

Originally Posted by birdiebill

What it means to me is that the vaccine will protect us with up to 95% protection from getting sick from the Covid virus. We still have a 5% chance of getting sick. To get sick, the virus has to get inside our human cells. The vaccine is designed to prevent the virus from getting inside our cells. But, it is unknown if a virus can enter our respiratory tree (nose, mouth, airway, lungs), not be able to enter any of our cells, but then pass out of our respiratory tree and infect someone close to us who has not been vaccinated.

What the 95% efficacy rate means that there are people who the vaccine will not work for. Since people are not being tested afterwards to confirm they have the antibodies, then one doesn’t know for whom the vaccine worked or not. Also, no one knows how many antibodies anyone got, how strong they are going to be, and how long it is going to last. Another concern is the variants, which reduces the efficacy of the vaccine. Both Pfizer and Moderna were tested with the coronavirus that was available at that time. Unfortunately that coronavirus strain is no longer the primary one. Thus, to protect oneself and others, one needs to continue to social distance, wear a mask, clean their hands often.

What Fauci said which I have not found to be true is that the current vaccines will stop replication of the virus. The RMA viruses do not work in that way. What they do is programs the cell to produce antibodies to make one less likely to get sick, or if they do, have weaker symptoms. (If anyone finds scientific data to the contrary, please share) The vaccines that use the adenovirus cell and the synthetic coronavirus, that we are waiting to get approved, will.

[Neils]

I think he should spend more time researching and less time on TV talk shows.
Appears that he enjoys changing the science to fit the narrative of the week.

[donassaid]

When will you realize that Fauci is an a puppet of the globalists like Gates, and Soros who has been wrong about everything concerning the virus. Amzing that anyone still believes anything he says.

[donassaid]

So, we are to wear masks and social distance for the rest of our lives? We would have been better off never doing either and allowing herd immunity to work its way out. Perhaps we would have been past this nightmare 6 months ago.

[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by birdiebill

What it means to me is that the vaccine will protect us with up to 95% protection from getting sick from the Covid virus. We still have a 5% chance of getting sick. To get sick, the virus has to get inside our human cells. The vaccine is designed to prevent the virus from getting inside our cells. But, it is unknown if a virus can enter our respiratory tree (nose, mouth, airway, lungs), not be able to enter any of our cells, but then pass out of our respiratory tree and infect someone close to us who has not been vaccinated.

Agree. Also, it is possible the 95% number is more like 60-70% when faced with the new virus mutations. So the idea is to get everyone vaccinated as soon as possible, because that gives the virus less of a chance to mutate. And in the meantime wear masks for the reasons stated above. If we can get everyone on board with that, we can defeat this thing. Scientists are exploring a booster shot to combat the mutations. Once we do that, scientists say we can reach herd immunity. This is better than letting people die to achieve herd immunity. It is estimated that if natural infection was used to reach herd immunity, in the US, 70% of the population would have to recover from Covid to halt the epidemic. If that many people were sick at once, the health care system would be overwhelmed. We've seen this happen in certain parts of the country. This amount of infection would lead to serious complications and millions of deaths, especially among older people and those with chronic conditions.

[Cobullymom]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Agree with you on that.

Yes, and we can move on from hearing this over and over and over. Maybe those who fixated on it will finally go out and get some fresh air and live their life, instead of pining over the TV

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Twice on TV I have seen the video of Dr. Fauci with his message about being vaccinated. In the video, Dr. Fauci is encouraging people to be vaccinated and what he says is confusing to me. He said "being vaccinated will not only protect you but it will protect your family and also protect your community".

My confusion lies with the fact that we are being informed to continue to wear masks and social distance even after we have received full immunization and achieve immunity. This is because it is not known yet if an immunized person can still transmit the virus.

I'm not sure what to make of this as they are opposing views.

Not sure WHY the big rush to put foreign RNA and DNA in your body........smh.......read all you can before you get this so called vaccine

[Nevermore]

Originally Posted by donassaid

When will you realize that Fauci is an a puppet of the globalists like Gates, and Soros who has been wrong about everything concerning the virus. Amzing that anyone still believes anything he says.

Your misunderstanding of science does not make the science incorrect. And your conspiracy theories are ridiculous.

[JimJohnson]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Twice on TV I have seen the video of Dr. Fauci with his message about being vaccinated. In the video, Dr. Fauci is encouraging people to be vaccinated and what he says is confusing to me. He said "being vaccinated will not only protect you but it will protect your family and also protect your community".

My confusion lies with the fact that we are being informed to continue to wear masks and social distance even after we have received full immunization and achieve immunity. This is because it is not known yet if an immunized person can still transmit the virus.

I'm not sure what to make of this as they are opposing views.

Not true Mr Bean

[Alaska Butch]

Fauci flip flops like a dying fish. Dont like what he has to say? Wait for the next news cycle.