[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by daddymac1127

I was taught not to desecrate or dishonor the American Flag. To me Kneeling during the national anthem is doing just that. If we allow anyone to do whatever they want as long as they can later justify it because of an injustice or disagreement won't we have anarchy at some point?

I just wish that the football players had used another means to show Black Lives matter.

The flag is a SYMBOL representing "with liberty, and justice for all." That is what the flag means, in our country. If there is no liberty and justice for all, then the flag's meaning is obscured, and it is actually DISrespectful to stand for it, until liberty, and justice for all is restored.

No matter which "side" you're on (because of course some people will insist there are sides, which is what creates division in the first place)..if you don't believe there should be liberty and justice for all, then you need to either a) move somewhere that is known for not having liberty and justice for all - like North Korea, for example, or b) continue standing for the flag and rejecting the first amendment right to kneel if you disagree that it no longer is what it's supposed to be.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The flag is a SYMBOL representing "with liberty, and justice for all." That is what the flag means, in our country. If there is no liberty and justice for all, then the flag's meaning is obscured, and it is actually DISrespectful to stand for it, until liberty, and justice for all is restored.

No matter which "side" you're on (because of course some people will insist there are sides, which is what creates division in the first place)..if you don't believe there should be liberty and justice for all, then you need to either a) move somewhere that is known for not having liberty and justice for all - like North Korea, for example, or b) continue standing for the flag and rejecting the first amendment right to kneel if you disagree that it no longer is what it's supposed to be.

Well stated...and dead on.

[daddymac1127]

A 22 year Veteran. Thank you for your service. I doubt that you have used the National Anthem to protest or bring awareness to a cause.

[daddymac1127]

I never said that did not agree with justice and liberty for all.

I agree with Black Lives Matter. Everyone's life matters and all needed to be treated equal.

I said other means can be used to protest or bring light to a very important cause.

VOTING is a very powerful tool in this Country. Spending and campaigning for a cause to
educate voters. This happens every 4 years when we elect a President. Look how much money is spent during that period.

[JimJohnson]

Originally Posted by daddymac1127

A 22 year Veteran. Thank you for your service. I doubt that you have used the National Anthem to protest or bring awareness to a cause.

I hav NOT, but if it would help set things right, I would.

[BS Beef]

What is he apologizing for?

What professional athlete has done more for a city (any city, any sport) through their acts or financially?
I'll wait.....

[daddymac1127]

I agree Drew shouldn't apologize. He didn't like to see the Flag and our country dishonored. No country is perfect; no human being is perfect.

[New Englander]

Black lives matter. Except when it's blacks killing blacks.

[John_W]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Just like Brees did initially, you've totally missed the whole point.

Drew Brees is one of the few bright spots in the NFL. You can't miss the point when you speak your own heart. He had it right the first time and got 63,000,000 new fans. Now, it's a backtrack because he plays in a league that is 80% black.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by John_W

Drew Brees is one of the few bright spots in the NFL. You can't miss the point when you speak your own heart. He had it right the first time and got 63,000,000 new fans. Now, it's a backtrack because he plays in a league that is 80% black.

Agreed.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by New Englander

Black lives matter. Except when it's blacks killing blacks.

Sad that nobody wants to talk about that.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov

Sad that nobody wants to talk about that.

Black on Black murders blow up their entire agenda.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by JimJohnson

I disagree. I’m a 22 year Army Veteran and have great respect for what Kaepernick did. He had a large audience to bring an incredibly important issue to the forefront. God Bless Kaepernick.

What he did was take those 22 years you served and threw it in your face....as a defender of that flag you should never give a pass to anyone that discredits the flag, what it stands for and all those that served to defend it. I agree he had an incredibly important issue, and it still it is, but using the deaths of those that served is, IMO, not the way.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by JoMar

What he did was take those 22 years you served and threw it in your face....as a defender of that flag you should never give a pass to anyone that discredits the flag, what it stands for and all those that served to defend it. I agree he had an incredibly important issue, and it still it is, but using the deaths of those that served is, IMO, not the way.

Well said

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The flag is a SYMBOL representing "with liberty, and justice for all." That is what the flag means, in our country. If there is no liberty and justice for all, then the flag's meaning is obscured, and it is actually DISrespectful to stand for it, until liberty, and justice for all is restored.

No matter which "side" you're on (because of course some people will insist there are sides, which is what creates division in the first place)..if you don't believe there should be liberty and justice for all, then you need to either a) move somewhere that is known for not having liberty and justice for all - like North Korea, for example, or b) continue standing for the flag and rejecting the first amendment right to kneel if you disagree that it no longer is what it's supposed to be.

It is also "under God", but that doesn't fly with those that want it removed from the pledge. Freedom of religion is also a constitutional right. Kneeling does not facilitate "liberty and justice" for all, it seperates. Dialogue through finding common cause will advance the cause, kneeling will not. MO