[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

How on earth do you come away from this with an idea such as that? Do they use coat hangers to perform abortions today? I do not know of any car that won't make it to the state line on a tank of gasoline. If one state bans abortions, then go to another.

And, when is the last time you actually saw a wire coat hanger?
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[Taurus510]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Covid vaccines work! Only in the dark web of disinformation do they not work! Disinformation started in Russia to split apart Americans. NOt very patriotic!

Sure the vaccines work. That’s why the nerd prom in D.C. turned out to be a “super spreader” event. Everyone in attendance had to be vaccinated and have a negative test, and yet, so many who attended are getting the Rona. These vaccines work about as good as a 1985 Yugo barn find.

[Taurus510]

Man, we went from “everyone must be jabbed” to “my body, my choice” at light speed.

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by Taurus510

Sure the vaccines work. That’s why the nerd prom in D.C. turned out to be a “super spreader” event. Everyone in attendance had to be vaccinated and have a negative test, and yet, so many who attended are getting the Rona. These vaccines work about as good as a 1985 Yugo barn find.

What I found amusing was that Fauci skipped the event.

[Taurus510]

Originally Posted by Caymus

What I found amusing was that Fauci skipped the event.

Fauci didn’t go because he knew the jab doesn’t work.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

And how exactly would we know if they are men? Are you going to assume by name and or photo? Hypothetically, if someone has xy chromosomes but identify as a woman, is she allowed to have an opinion?

Allowed? Everyone has an opinion, but, IMO the only one who actually should have the right to choose is the woman being affected by her decision.

[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

Do you consider cake batter a cake?

That’s half baked

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

It's so hard to agree with this when the very premise is not true.
1. 75% of the population cannot have babies, therefore the percent of people being "controlled" could not possibly be 75%. We won't even go into the fact that many women (don't know the percentage) are pro-life. Therefore the number being controlled couldn't possibly be 50%. Then females who have gone through menopause or are pre-adolescent or infertile. You see how the "controlled" is far less than 50%.
2 Your statement that only25% are pro-life is not even close to accurate. So, once you release the "facts" you offer to support your position are "misinformation", it is much harder to provide the desired weight to the argument.

Polls asked people, do you support Roe v Wade? About 20% said....NO they do NOT. Thus, at least 75% said that they DO support Roe. That.s where I get my percentages.
.....Your #1 It doesn't matter how many can have babies. The question is about who agrees that Roe should be the law of the land. Both men and women and young people and older people can have that OPINION regardless of whether they can have babies. They are ENTITLED to an opinion. and I contend that the opinion of the minority 25% should not get their way over the opinion of the 75%. maybe I am talking APPLES and you are thinking ORANGES?
Your #2.........I was not mentioning "pro-life". I was talking about the about 20% that the poll said wanted to eliminate Roe as a precedent. I see this poll as saying that 20% of all Americans want to FORCE a pregnant woman TO HAVE A BABY AGAINST HER WILL. 80% of all Americans want the women to have the right to choose.
.........I see there to be 2 worlds .......one is a progressive freedom-loving FUTURE for WOMEN.
..........and the other world.......is a backward in history return of women to their former role as 2nd class citizens.
..........the 1st world accepts EVERYONE as EQUAL ....women equal to men in pay and all other things. The races as equal and accepts the changing numbers of whites versus non-whites
..........the other world prefers (and hopes) that things NEVER change. That whites are FOREVER seen as superior to non-whites and PAID more. That men are FOREVER seen as superior to women (and laws and other roadblocks will keep women down forever!)
.........One of these worlds is reality and one is a delusion!

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by thevillages2013

That’s half baked

Funny!!😅

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

Are you going to be the person that determines what is good and what is bad? Or who do you suggest should do that? I am assuming you know how the constitution is amended to keep the good and throw away the bad. But then again, it is the constitution that states how to amend it. Is that part of the good or the bad?

Constitutional law is ABOVE my pay grade.....I admit. But, that does NOT negate what I said. That which needs changing WILL be changed (assuming a world where right prevails over wrong) (as in will the future be democracy or dictatorship?)
.......Everything evolves Humans evolve. Squirrels evolve. EVEN the US Constitution is NOT written in stone. It is NOT perfect. It WILL also EVOLVE! The US is NOT perfect (or even in the top 20 of the world's countries). Please don't let that burst your bubble about US perfection........or cause you to seek out knowledge from world lists of important factors and qualities. Just stay contented in your little bubble!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Perhaps you do not know that states can make their own laws since we became a nation. Not to mention some states have state income taxes and some do not.

You might want to change your post.

OK I can change. How about "The Disunited States of AmeriKa"?

[MDLNB]

Sorry, but a lot of folks do not understand what this is all about.
Folks, it has nothing to do with "women's rights." It's about STATES RIGHTS. The SC doesn't give a rat's @** about whether or not a woman wishes to use abortion as a means of birth control. The SC is looking at whether or not the SC via Roe/Wade had the authority to disregard States Rights regarding making laws.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ScottGo

I remember a neighbor dying from a coat hanger procedure back in the good ole 60s. Guess we're going backward.

Best, most truthful post so far. We all lived through those days.........except for those so UNFORTUNATE women that are NOT around today. Some people are taking us (the US) back to the future of 2nd class women (and other unfortunates).
........Meanwhile, Norway and Finland are way ahead of us on everything. Many countries have had WOMEN leaders. NOT the US......AKA the Misogynous States of America (MS of A) !!!!!!!!!

[PoolBrews]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Surely such a sensitive and emotive subject should be taken by a national/state referendum?
Seems to big and powerful a subject, to be decided by nine people.
Even to an outsider like myself, it wasn't rocket science to understand how the SC would vote, and what decision they would arrive at, given the political bias of the court.
Most opinion polls show a large majority in favor of Pro Choice.

I'm not sure where you get your polls from, but the latest Gallup poll shows 49% favor abortion, and 47% are against it. Not what I would call a "large majority".

And looking at a poll for abortion after 16 weeks "When asked how they would feel if such a law were passed in their state, just over half of voters favor it (54%) while 41% are opposed.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Actually you are mostly wrong.

Many states will now pass laws allowing abortions so people who want them can just take a ride to one of those states and have her abortion.

"just take a ride" .......500 miles to somewhere else in the MS of A ......the Misogynistic States of America.