[biker1]

There is a possibility that the decision the SC is going to reach is that it is not a constitutionally (Federal) mandated right and as such the people of each state will get to decide the issue by who they elect at the state level. I don’t think most people understand that - certainly not the talking heads on most opinion shows. The SC is being asked to render a legal argument and Roe has apparently been on questionable legal grounds. Kicking it back to the states to decide makes a lot of sense. No decision has been reached yet.

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Surely such a sensitive and emotive subject should be taken by a national/state referendum?
Seems to big and powerful a subject, to be decided by nine people.
Even to an outsider like myself, it wasn't rocket science to understand how the SC would vote, and what decision they would arrive at, given the political bias of the court.
Most opinion polls show a large majority in favor of Pro Choice.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

Where to draw the line ? sometime before the fetus looks something like a baby and not something that crawled out of a swamp ? That might soothe a lot of feelings, but what is the ethical difference ?,, sure my part in reproduction is easy, the heavy lifting is someone else's problem

I like the arguments in this essay by Carl Sagan. It's long but worth the read.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by stevecmo

I trust all you "my body, my choice" folks feel the same about vaccines? Asking for a friend.

An Overview of Abortion Laws | Guttmacher Institute

Abortion laws are very complex. "My body, my choice" also has a lot of limitations with respect to getting an abortion with respect to when, how and where. Vaccines are also a difficult subject to generalize about.

[stevecmo]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

An Overview of Abortion Laws | Guttmacher Institute

Abortion laws are very complex. "My body, my choice" also has a lot of limitations with respect to getting an abortion with respect to when, how and where. Vaccines are also a difficult subject to generalize about.

Nah, not difficult at all.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Who is protecting the rights of the fetus/baby??

Is the fetus a human? If not, does it still have rights?

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by stevecmo

I trust all you "my body, my choice" folks feel the same about vaccines? Asking for a friend.

I m not sure, but last I heard, pregnancy is not a public health hazard. At least I hope it is not contagious that would change every thing.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by biker1

There is a possibility that the decision the SC is going to reach is that it is not a constitutionally (Federal) mandated right and as such the people of each state will get to decide the issue by who they elect at the state level. I don’t think most people understand that - certainly not the talking heads on most opinion shows. The SC is being asked to render a legal argument and Roe has apparently been on questionable legal grounds. Kicking it back to the states to decide makes a lot of sense. No decision has been reached yet.

Well, first, Roe has been changed many time over 50 years, and none have withstood the legal challenge.

Yes, the SCOTUS is making a legal determination of a specific case, and has dragged Roe V Wade into that decision, it was not necessary, but the court decided to do it, which is certain something it can do.

In this case, my preference is that we get a Federal Law that defines the legality of abortions, and what areas are grey - ie. rape, health risk of mother, etc. THEN. the states can refine that to meet their individual constituents desires.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I like the arguments in this essay by Carl Sagan. It's long but worth the read.

Yes, it is a good read, and addresses the various ways people have made this decision over the ages.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

I m not sure, but last I heard, pregnancy is not a public health hazard. At least I hope it is not contagious that would change every thing.

According to one prolific poster, we have too many people so yes, it is...

[JMintzer]

According to the "Notorious RBG", Roe V Wade wasn't a very good decision...

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Offers Critique of Roe v. Wade During Law School Visit | University of Chicago Law School

[Taurus510]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

Can’t wait to see how many men on here will be discussing what a woman should or not do with her own body

You mean like the vaccine aficionados telling those who didn’t want a vaccine what they should do with their own bodies?

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Taurus510

You mean like the vaccine aficionados telling those who didn’t want a vaccine what they should do with their own bodies?

Vaccination is a public health issue, comparing that to abortion is a non-starter.

[Taurus510]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Vaccination is a public health issue, comparing that to abortion is a non-starter.

You would be correct. IF the vaccine worked. Now that it is a fact that the vaccines don’t work it is a starter. ( I kinda like being able to declare that an argument is a starter or a non starter. Kinda gives me a God like authority…)

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Taurus510

You would be correct. IF the vaccine worked. Now that it is a fact that the vaccines don’t work it is a starter. ( I kinda like being able to declare that an argument is a starter or a non starter. Kinda gives me a God like authority…)

I am not sure WHERE you read that, but you are wrong. Ask any hospital worker. Anyway this is off topic and needs to be dropped. We have argued about this for over two years, and there is no one going to change anyone else's minds. I feel sorry for you. But you can believe what you choose.

[Taurus510]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

I am not sure WHERE you read that, but you are wrong. Ask any hospital worker. Anyway this is off topic and needs to be dropped. We have argued about this for over two years, and there is no one going to change anyone else's minds. I feel sorry for you. But you can believe what you choose.

We’ll, you see, here’s the thing. Not only are many of my co-workers hospital workers, I too am a hospital worker. And yes, I am involved in patient medical care, so do you have any other suggestions?
EDIT: In the interest of transparency, I am retired. I should’ve said that I worked in the hospital. Retired at the end of last year. But, still I will await further instructions.