[billethkid]

Originally Posted by James Buckert

I find nothing offensive about the Seattle training. Biases, particularly racial ones, are prevalent in all of us but not truly acknowledged. In other words, biases are so deeply rooted that we are not aware we have them - hence the need to be trained and made aware. We may not accept all the information provided, but it should start us thinking!

Like it is a new subject not thought about to date. Really!

Why is the focus on blacks only. Are there not bias and prejudices in other groups....white....yellow....brown....et al
For example, being poor and under privilege exists in other skin colors....

And why was there no such black disparity outcry when there was a black president?

Ridiculous!

[Luisa]

Originally Posted by gurueast

If I’m interpreting this correctly, through my lens, this is probably utilizing role-playing techniques for white to experience the every-day injustices of what it feels like to be black. In doing so we White people can gain some empathy and compassion for what a person of color experiences and, hopefully, will then begin to see others as another human with equal aspirations and goals in life.

Blacks and their white supporters need to do the role playing. They are the ones constantly denigrating whites. The vast majority of whites in this country started with nothing. There are many wealthy blacks in entertainment, sports, etc. Immigrants of all colors come to this country and bring themselves up economically on their own. Personal responsibility leads to prosperity not blaming others.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Falvotc

These crazy "communists" are capable of almost anything. Their behavior is so "off the charts" that many normal people think it is not true, or being grossly exaggerated. The truth is the really are this crazy and anyone who fails to believe it, is contributing to the downfall of our country and our way of life. If the extreme left wins the presidency we will all be going to re-training classes so we can learn how to lower our standard of living so that those less fortunate will not feel so bad.

Sometimes I think that we have undereducated the US, esp those liberals.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Travel41

Many years ago my husband was a department mgr at corp McDonalds. After many interviews (I won’t mention which dept but it was for a regional position) he was forced by upper management to hire a black man instead of a more qualified white man. They were going for hiring minorities. Several months later he had to fire the black man he had hired for a long list of improprieties, mainly taking a girl friend on business trips. This man was married at that time.

In statistics that is an N of 1. Without a large number in a study, it is impossible to draw a conclusion. But, that does NOT stop some.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

Most of the protesters were not even alive during the civil rights movement. They have grown up, gone to school, worked with and played with a diverse crowd. It is all that they know. The protesters, themselves, are a diverse crowd.

When I hear Jesse Jackson speak, I realize how much things have changed and just how old and stuck in the past that he is. I'm in my my 50's and the world he remembers just does not exist anymore. This group of Marxists is harnessing those old wounds and fears of the past to try and destroy this country. If you "erase" the history of slave owners from the planet then you also "erase" the history of slavery. What better way to reintroduce slavery as a newfangled concept?

I saw Mr J. Jackson speak in about 1970 and I was not very impressed. Nor was that final conclusion.

[Alaska Butch]

We are headed for civil war.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Wonder what would happen if one of Seattle's major employers like Microsoft would basically say ok were leaving if you do not stop this crap

I wouldn’t bet on Microsoft. IMO probably encourages it???

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I saw Mr J. Jackson speak in about 1970 and I was not very impressed. Nor was that final conclusion.

Back in the 70's it was a different story.

But for JJ to talk to about young people today like they are growing up in a time of segregation, oppression and no opportunities is just not the reality now. But he either can't or won't see it. He's like a broken record. I don't know that he's changed his tune in 50 years.

There is generational poverty in all racial groups. There is also generational wealth in all racial groups.

What the Marxists want to do is redistribute everything so that everyone gets the same thing across the board - just one homogeneous group of meh.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ldj1938

Ol’ Remus

This is a copy of an email I just received. I worked at a large corporation in a development position and was told that they had just been informed of a "quota" that must meet so forget it...your promotion is not going to happen.

With all the recent troubles we’re again being invited to an honest and open conversation about race, or said differently, the brow beatings will be resumed. Try this for honest and open: many of us, probably most of us, are tired of your whining, your so-called grievances, your violence and crime, your insults and threats, your witless blather and pornographic demeanor—all of it. You’re not quite 13% of the population yet everything has to be about you, all day, every day. With you, facts aren’t facts, everything’s a kozmik krisis, and abusive confrontations are your go-to.

Here’s the thing: some of us despise you, although fewer than you believe, but most of us plain don’t care about you or your doings. There was a time when we did care, but you betrayed our good will and played us for fools. We laugh about it now, but we actually believed you wanted equal opportunity and mutual respect and to live in harmony—all that stuff. Ain’t it a hoot? Imagine our embarrassment.

We talk among ourselves just like you do. It’s true, we have “frank and open discussions” when you’re not around. Why? Partly because it’s exhausting to tippy-toe around you. Partly because you think it’s your celestial right to tell us what we can say. And partly because you’re alarmingly aggressive or painfully dim-witted by turns. We never know which “you” will pop out of the box, or when. But mainly because you’ve revealed yourself as grasping opportunists without honor or principle. There’s your deal-breaker. There’s more.

During the recent riots you expected us to believe heisting snack food then torching the place was “standing up for justice”. When we didn’t buy it, you told us the looting and arson wasn’t done by the rioters after all, no, all the bad stuff was done by rioters from out of town. Apparently you think it makes a difference to us. And if we don’t fall for that one, you tell us you’re the real victims, you’re the ones “hit hardest” because the neighborhoods you looted and burned are, um, looted and burned.

We’ve never stood in your way but we don’t really care if you have good neighborhoods or not. The evidence says you don’t care either, unless we build and maintain them for you, what your enablers call “investments in urban communities.” They don’t mention the return on our past “investments”. Our former neighborhoods weren’t improved by your arrival. Your contempt for ordinary civility tells us no level of “investment” would make a difference. Listen up. It’s simple. Just like our neighborhoods are our responsibility, so are your neighborhoods your responsibility, not ours. Your clownish leaders will tell you otherwise but they’ve always been your responsibility and they always will be your responsibility. Accept it or don’t, you’re the ones who live in them. There’s more.

Your air conditioned, smart phone equipped, EBT-financed “poverty” doesn’t wash to begin with, yet you’d have us believe poverty causes crime. There’s no payday for assault and rape and random killing. Police say 20% of your criminal violence is related to dope-dealing, okay, business disputes of a sort, but it says the rest of it is largely pro bono. We also notice you have a working knowledge of jury nullification and take pride in not “snitching”, typical gang behavior.

We say “what you think, you do. What you do, you are.” We know what you think—we hear it every waking minute. We know what you do. How could we not know what you are? Just so it gets said, crime causes poverty. It drives away productive people, their businesses and the opportunities you said you wanted. More bad news: you’re free to accuse them of anything you wish but they’re not coming back.

Schools haven’t been educating our kids for a long time. They’re too busy conjuring up new ways to teach yours, in fact, we’re beginning to think yours are the only ones who matter. There’s always some new scheme claiming dazzling success which, in the end, amounts to handing out the answers with the tests, or taking the annoying hard stuff out of the coursework, or entering unearned grades by hand. Whatever they’re doing they’re doing it wrong. Your kids are telling us, in every way they know how, they have neither the interest nor the inclination for academics. Perhaps we should listen. If what they want is “out” it’s worth considering and probably worth encouraging.

You tell us the schools have “failed to meet their needs.” And what are their needs, pray tell? Higher standards and tougher tests? Stricter rules and a dress code? Or some alternate universe where credit is earned for putting teachers in the ER, or for a string of abortions before the tenth grade? If you’d tell us what their needs are we’d at least know what needs we’re failing to meet. Until then we’ll mark it down for what it is, another lame excuse. They’re supposed to be schools, not day care or orphanages or theme parks.

You pester us with the “civil rights movement” of fifty years ago as though it happened last week, with tedious 1960s footage and cloying voice-overs, in an endless loop, like Groundhog Day, decade after decade. It’s understandable, you haven’t met any real resistance since those days. Breaking news: none of it matters any more, it all devolved into just another swindle, an extortion racket, “pay up or we’ll make a stink—and the bad optics are on you”.

Schools now teach something called White Privilege, which claims no overt act is necessary for us to be racist, in fact, absence of such acts is said to be direct evidence. It’s the “original sin” concept in a different wrapper, meaning our putative racism is bone deep and can’t be discharged by good works. Even so, they say we must atone in perpetuity for being white. They suggest we devote our lives in selfless service to you. No. Sorry. Whatever white privilege there may be, it isn’t enough. In fact, being subjected to White Privilege prattle is worth a couple of privileges.

Speaking of privilege, 60% of your college grads—and 20% of all of you—are employed by government. The intent is to create an artificial middle class of course, hence the trivial positions with imaginative titles and weighty salaries. In the lower reaches it’s the quota hires, typically unqualified. It’s a great offer. You pretend you’re doing something useful and we pretend to believe you. The rest of your grads are largely diversity directors, window dressing, teachers of dubious “studies” and improbable “histories”, and similar warehousing schemes for the otherwise unemployable. It’s as good as it’s ever going to get, except for those on the skinny end of the bell curve—for whom we have genuine, i.e., earned respect. You’d be a fool to leave it on the table, for as long as it lasts.

So here’s the deal. If you want to know what we really think of you, the answer is we don’t, unless you’re making yourself unavoidable or we’re cleaning up your latest mess. We can safely rely on you to make astonishingly irresponsible choices and blame us for the consequences. And you’ll demand we make good on them for you. We won’t take a chance on your sincerity ever again. Take it somewhere else, you have no credibility left with us. You’re a net liability, predictable to the point of surety. So we attend to our own lives and our own problems. It’s as it should be. We recommend it. As for you, frankly my dear, we don’t give a damn.

Almost a book? Just a few points to ponder. "20% of "your" criminal violence is related to dope-dealing". It takes 2 to make a deal. The buyers circling US streets in their Cadillacs are RICH, mostly Whites, some Blacks-that BUY it. They provide the magnet for the dope trade. Next : " Schools haven't been educating our kids for a long time". Since last year when we Villagers graduated, I guess? Also, Europe and Canada manage to do education fine-something about near-flat taxes, and property taxes in the US hold our great country back! Next : "Government's intent is to create an artificial middle class." Well, in the last 20 years, there have been unnecessary tax cuts loaded toward the RICH- these cuts have already created a WEAK middle class. Happiness for some IS a weak or no middle class. Note : If you think you ARE middle class you may NOT be. And if you REALLY ARE, you are old- when UNIONS were strong. Also, and this should frighten some, a weak middle class is a fertile ground for something Villagers hate-COMMUNISM. Post script on the post. For a long book, there were very few typos and some strong sentence structure.....Kudos

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

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I understand that some may say...well, this can't be true - it's reported by Fox News.
But - where else in the Mass Media would something as gut-wrenching as this be published. Seems as if so many cities are INTENTIONALLY creating division and racial strife.


SEATTLEPublished 3 hours ago
Seattle held 'segregated' training session on 'undoing whiteness,' encouraged staffers to forfeit 'guaranteed physical safety'


The City of Seattle held a racially segregated employee training session aimed at White staffers and instructing them on "undoing your own whiteness" in order to be held accountable by people of color, according to documents obtained by a public records request. (ETC, ETC)
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This will be an interesting test case to see how much self-abasement and self-hatred guilty white liberals will be willing to take.

I doubt that many Villagers, even if wealthy white liberals, really want their white grandkids growing up hating themselves? Maybe I'm wrong.

It's also humorous to watch some on this board quibble with the sourcing and try to imply it's a fringe story. I wish ...it's a preview of coming attractions as the Marxist revolution continues to gather steam.

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[Guitarman1951]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

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I understand that some may say...well, this can't be true - it's reported by Fox News.
But - where else in the Mass Media would something as gut-wrenching as this be published. Seems as if so many cities are INTENTIONALLY creating division and racial strife.


SEATTLEPublished 3 hours ago
Seattle held 'segregated' training session on 'undoing whiteness,' encouraged staffers to forfeit 'guaranteed physical safety'


The City of Seattle held a racially segregated employee training session aimed at White staffers and instructing them on "undoing your own whiteness" in order to be held accountable by people of color, according to documents obtained by a public records request.

The session took place on June 12, as protesters took part in the so-called "Capitol Hill Organized Protest" in the Capitol Hill district.

Christopher F. Rufo, an editor for City Journal and director of the Discovery Institute’s Center on Wealth and Poverty, said he filed a public records request regarding the training session. On Monday, he published copies of the materials distributed to employees in the session on his Twitter account.

According to his screenshots, the Office of Civil Rights hosted a two-and-a-half-hour “Training on Internalized Racial Superiority for White People.”

In the email invitation to the event, the office asked “city employees who identify as white to join this training to learn, reflect, challenge ourselves, and build skills and relationships that help us show up more fully as allies and accomplices for racial justice.”

“We’ll examine our complicity in the system of white supremacy – how we internalize and reinforce it – and begin to cultivate practices that enable us to interrupt racism in ways to be accountable to Black, Indigenous and People of Color (BIPOC) folks within our community,” the email invitation said.

The name of the initial sender was redacted. Rufo claimed, “the City of Seattle has refused to provide the names of the diversity trainers, the budget for the program, or the video of the session.”

“I'm going to keep pushing—because this is exactly the kind of thought-policing they want to implement everywhere,” Rufo tweeted. “The new cultural revolution is being fought via corporate HR, city diversity training, and public school curriculums. When you find something like this in your community, expose it, criticize it, mock it, and reject it.”

Those who attended the session were shown handouts, including one that encouraged them to cultivate “networks with other white people who are practicing antiracist accomplicehood so you can talk through your struggles in the work of undoing your own whiteness.”

Diversity trainers instructed White employees in “practicing self-talk that affirms our complicity in racism.”

“Racism is not our fault but we are responsible,” one bullet point declared.

In order to be considered “accomplices,” White employees must give up “comfort,” “guaranteed physical safety,” “expectations or presumptions of emotional safety,” “control over other people and over the land,” and “relationships with some other white people.”

White employees were also urged to give up “niceties from neighbors and colleagues,” “the certainty of your job,” and “accepting jobs and promotions when we are not qualified, including racial equity jobs.”

Employees were presented with a flowchart that demonstrated how “white people keep the system going” by being socialized “to cause harm to POC,” “justify why we are superior and have been wronged by POC,” “use anger, self-righteousness and defensiveness [to] mask fear, shame, or guilt,” “show up small and inauthentic,” and finally are “unable to imagine a way forward that comes from a place of humanity,” thus reinforcing the status quo.

Those who attended the session were also shown a datasheet titled “Assimilation into Whiteness,” which claimed to document how those of Arab, Jewish, Finnish, German, Italian, Armenian or Irish descent still classify as White.

Employees were taught how to “interrupt” their whiteness by being “honest and implicate yourself either in the moment or in past experiences in which you acted or thought similarly.”

“Don’t blame others. Don’t distance. Don’t make yourself seem 'better.' None of us is,” a handout said. “You are also white and what someone else did today you may do tomorrow.”

A two-column chart also listed characteristics that defined “Internalized Racial Oppression.”

“Internalized Racial Superiority,” was defined by perfectionism, individualism, imposition, arrogance, paternalism, silence, intellectualization, control, violence, comfort, appropriation, cognitive dissonance, objectivity and “anti-blackness.”

Meanwhile, “Internalized Racial Inferiority” was defined by colorism, isolation, protectionism, addiction, self-doubt, self-hate, rage, shame, denial, assimilation, ethnocentrisms, distancing, exaggerated visibility, hopelessness, apathy, erasure, invisibility, “anti-blackness.”

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Seattle held '''segregated''' training session on '''undoing whiteness,''' encouraged staffers to forfeit '''guaranteed physical safety''' | Fox News

OMG!! Talk about racist. This is about racist as it gets. Discrimination because you are white and demeaning to anyone with any common sense. This kind of liberalism is the kind that needs to be shown for what it is, stupid.

[ronnolder]

What minorities want.... can not be given.....only earned. There is no equality..... only equal opportunity.

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by ldj1938

Ol’ Remus

This is a copy of an email I just received. I worked at a large corporation in a development position and was told that they had just been informed of a "quota" that must meet so forget it...your promotion is not going to happen.

With all the recent troubles we’re again being invited to an honest and open conversation about race, or said differently, the brow beatings will be resumed. Try this for honest and open: many of us, probably most of us, are tired of your whining, your so-called grievances, your violence and crime, your insults and threats, your witless blather and pornographic demeanor—all of it. You’re not quite 13% of the population yet everything has to be about you, all day, every day. With you, facts aren’t facts, everything’s a kozmik krisis, and abusive confrontations are your go-to.

Here’s the thing: some of us despise you, although fewer than you believe, but most of us plain don’t care about you or your doings. There was a time when we did care, but you betrayed our good will and played us for fools. We laugh about it now, but we actually believed you wanted equal opportunity and mutual respect and to live in harmony—all that stuff. Ain’t it a hoot? Imagine our embarrassment.

We talk among ourselves just like you do. It’s true, we have “frank and open discussions” when you’re not around. Why? Partly because it’s exhausting to tippy-toe around you. Partly because you think it’s your celestial right to tell us what we can say. And partly because you’re alarmingly aggressive or painfully dim-witted by turns. We never know which “you” will pop out of the box, or when. But mainly because you’ve revealed yourself as grasping opportunists without honor or principle. There’s your deal-breaker. There’s more.

During the recent riots you expected us to believe heisting snack food then torching the place was “standing up for justice”. When we didn’t buy it, you told us the looting and arson wasn’t done by the rioters after all, no, all the bad stuff was done by rioters from out of town. Apparently you think it makes a difference to us. And if we don’t fall for that one, you tell us you’re the real victims, you’re the ones “hit hardest” because the neighborhoods you looted and burned are, um, looted and burned.

We’ve never stood in your way but we don’t really care if you have good neighborhoods or not. The evidence says you don’t care either, unless we build and maintain them for you, what your enablers call “investments in urban communities.” They don’t mention the return on our past “investments”. Our former neighborhoods weren’t improved by your arrival. Your contempt for ordinary civility tells us no level of “investment” would make a difference. Listen up. It’s simple. Just like our neighborhoods are our responsibility, so are your neighborhoods your responsibility, not ours. Your clownish leaders will tell you otherwise but they’ve always been your responsibility and they always will be your responsibility. Accept it or don’t, you’re the ones who live in them. There’s more.

Your air conditioned, smart phone equipped, EBT-financed “poverty” doesn’t wash to begin with, yet you’d have us believe poverty causes crime. There’s no payday for assault and rape and random killing. Police say 20% of your criminal violence is related to dope-dealing, okay, business disputes of a sort, but it says the rest of it is largely pro bono. We also notice you have a working knowledge of jury nullification and take pride in not “snitching”, typical gang behavior.

We say “what you think, you do. What you do, you are.” We know what you think—we hear it every waking minute. We know what you do. How could we not know what you are? Just so it gets said, crime causes poverty. It drives away productive people, their businesses and the opportunities you said you wanted. More bad news: you’re free to accuse them of anything you wish but they’re not coming back.

Schools haven’t been educating our kids for a long time. They’re too busy conjuring up new ways to teach yours, in fact, we’re beginning to think yours are the only ones who matter. There’s always some new scheme claiming dazzling success which, in the end, amounts to handing out the answers with the tests, or taking the annoying hard stuff out of the coursework, or entering unearned grades by hand. Whatever they’re doing they’re doing it wrong. Your kids are telling us, in every way they know how, they have neither the interest nor the inclination for academics. Perhaps we should listen. If what they want is “out” it’s worth considering and probably worth encouraging.

You tell us the schools have “failed to meet their needs.” And what are their needs, pray tell? Higher standards and tougher tests? Stricter rules and a dress code? Or some alternate universe where credit is earned for putting teachers in the ER, or for a string of abortions before the tenth grade? If you’d tell us what their needs are we’d at least know what needs we’re failing to meet. Until then we’ll mark it down for what it is, another lame excuse. They’re supposed to be schools, not day care or orphanages or theme parks.

You pester us with the “civil rights movement” of fifty years ago as though it happened last week, with tedious 1960s footage and cloying voice-overs, in an endless loop, like Groundhog Day, decade after decade. It’s understandable, you haven’t met any real resistance since those days. Breaking news: none of it matters any more, it all devolved into just another swindle, an extortion racket, “pay up or we’ll make a stink—and the bad optics are on you”.

Schools now teach something called White Privilege, which claims no overt act is necessary for us to be racist, in fact, absence of such acts is said to be direct evidence. It’s the “original sin” concept in a different wrapper, meaning our putative racism is bone deep and can’t be discharged by good works. Even so, they say we must atone in perpetuity for being white. They suggest we devote our lives in selfless service to you. No. Sorry. Whatever white privilege there may be, it isn’t enough. In fact, being subjected to White Privilege prattle is worth a couple of privileges.

Speaking of privilege, 60% of your college grads—and 20% of all of you—are employed by government. The intent is to create an artificial middle class of course, hence the trivial positions with imaginative titles and weighty salaries. In the lower reaches it’s the quota hires, typically unqualified. It’s a great offer. You pretend you’re doing something useful and we pretend to believe you. The rest of your grads are largely diversity directors, window dressing, teachers of dubious “studies” and improbable “histories”, and similar warehousing schemes for the otherwise unemployable. It’s as good as it’s ever going to get, except for those on the skinny end of the bell curve—for whom we have genuine, i.e., earned respect. You’d be a fool to leave it on the table, for as long as it lasts.

So here’s the deal. If you want to know what we really think of you, the answer is we don’t, unless you’re making yourself unavoidable or we’re cleaning up your latest mess. We can safely rely on you to make astonishingly irresponsible choices and blame us for the consequences. And you’ll demand we make good on them for you. We won’t take a chance on your sincerity ever again. Take it somewhere else, you have no credibility left with us. You’re a net liability, predictable to the point of surety. So we attend to our own lives and our own problems. It’s as it should be. We recommend it. As for you, frankly my dear, we don’t give a damn.

Wow, just wow.

The post, in its entirety, belies the sincerity of this sentence.


"There was a time when we did care, but you betrayed our good will and played us for fools."


If that sentence were even close to being true, then we wouldn't be dealing with the same issues in 2020, that existed 50 years ago in 1970. It also perfectly exhibits the definition of "systemic" and "institutional."

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Wow, just wow.

The post, in its entirety, belies the sincerity of this sentence.


"There was a time when we did care, but you betrayed our good will and played us for fools."


If that sentence were even close to being true, then we wouldn't be dealing with the same issues in 2020, that existed 50 years ago in 1970. It also perfectly exhibits the definition of "systemic" and "institutional."

It's like a dog chasing it's tail..

The reality is though...in spite of what Jesse Jackson and the individual quoted above might say, the tide has turned. This is not the 70's anymore. That is why the protesters out there are such a diverse group. That is why business owners, doctors, lawyers, CEOs, political representatives are such a diverse group.

Activists seem to be going out of their way to create tensions among people. They are increasingly disdainful of law and order and get in the face of our sworn police officers while they are trying to keep our communities safe. This is not about making things better for people. It's about leveling people. Because that is what Marxism is all about - sameness.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by ronnolder

what minorities want.... Can not be given.....only earned. There is no equality..... Only equal opportunity.

thank you!