[Mrprez]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Sorry, the federal government employees has very strong union Which fully support certain party to get union benefits ( you know kinda like teachers union) and that will never happen.

Just to be clear, not all federal employees are eligible to be in a union. My wife is a retired federal worker, she worked for the U.S. Courts and there were no union workers. The courthouse security officers are union, but they are not federal employees. They operate under a private contract for the US Marshall’s Service.

I’d also like to add that she worked her butt off and deserves every benefit she receives in her retirement.

[Billy1]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

I for one think it is about time to have a Federal Holiday celebrating Grumpy Old Men! I was going to say, grumpy old people, or grumpy old women too - but, naw, we don't want to do that. Before long women might get all uppity and want to vote too.

The United States Army rode in and freed the slaves, we have a wonderful military. Lets celebrate.

[tsmall22204]

Where do people get their ridiculous information from?

[J1ceasar]

Originally Posted by mamamia54

Randolph, New Jersey removed ALL holiday names from the school year. It will now be called a day off.

Great .

[J1ceasar]

1% also pay 35% of ALL income taxes . Top 5% - 50% . Don't complain..

[kenoc7]

It is so sad to see so many mean spirited posts in this thread that show no appreciation of American history.

[christine J Toft]

Originally Posted by blueash

Yes of course the objection is that this is about Black citizens and celebrates their end of centuries of slavery. Nothing for for the KKK to celebrate there. And the comment on this thread that THEY already have a holiday for MLK only makes it too clear what the objection really is about.

How about all those Christian holidays? How about if we are not going to favor groups we stop favoring that one? Easter, Xmas, Thanksgiving all religious holidays. If you want to understand how the early Americans understood the separation of church and state, look no further than the US Post office and how it handled the question of Sunday deliveries.

" In 1828, the Kentucky Senator Richard M. Johnson, chairman of the Senate Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads and a devout Baptist, declared any federal attempt to give preference to the Christian Sabbath to be unconstitutional. The line between church and state when it came to Sunday mail delivery, he argued, "cannot be too strongly drawn."

I admit I had never heard of Juneteenth until recently. I had never heard of the Tulsa massacre or the similar one here in Central Florida until the last few years. Funny how we didn't learn about so much of the real history of America growing up. Maybe as we learn more about how it really happened we will find things worth celebrating, like Juneteenth that are not all about WASP events.

Thank You for some Truth.

[FromNY]

Marin Luther King deserves a holiday. He was a gentleman and a strong leader . We combined Washington and Lincoln and threw in all the other presidents. Juneteenth is a significant date for all of America. Now if we kick Columbus to the curb it would be great. Who needs to celebrate a murderous explorer. Christmas is religious no right being a paid holiday. And do we really need an entire month devoted to Black History? Time to join hands and have every month devoted to All Americans . I am all for keeping history alive. Celebrating the accomplishments of each groups of Americans. The struggles the growth. This country was built on the backs and hard labor of People of All Races, Religion, Male, Female and other identified but not acknowledged humans. Does not matter we all bleed red!
Let's honor the history, cut the political BS and work together. Our veterans still cannot get medical care, Children go hungry and are abused, animals are abandoned, crime is often against those within the same community . People look around and try to be kind to others. We together are the future if the USA!

[SacDQ]

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

Abraham Lincoln

[Bay Kid]

I told my children to get a government job. Tons of paid holidays, slick leave, regular leave and you don't have to work very hard. Easy living.

[lindaelane]

Basically, it appears to be four weeks vacation for most (five for those there a very long time), 11 holidays (Christmas, Thanksgiving, things a majority of people have, plus two or three many do not get like President's day) and if taken, up to 13 sick days.

There is usually incentive to save sick days, and worse treatment at work to those suspected of using them unnecessarily. I think 4 weeks vacation, 11 holidays and just over 2 weeks sick if needed is fair. I know the government wastes money but I do not see it here. These should be for skilled positions, however. Unskilled work does not generally carry benefits, and the government should not pay beyond what private industry does. (Yes...I know...government contractors get more than private but this thread is not about that.)

Something I do not understand...Juneteenth is so-called because it is the Saturday in June with a number in the teens. Will it not remain a Saturday? Therefore, wouldn't the majority (not all) of federal workers have been off anyway? Or...do they get Friday since the holiday is on a weekend?

[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by lindaelane

Basically, it appears to be four weeks vacation for most (five for those there a very long time), 11 holidays (Christmas, Thanksgiving, things a majority of people have, plus two or three many do not get like President's day) and if taken, up to 13 sick days.

There is usually incentive to save sick days, and worse treatment at work to those suspected of using them unnecessarily. I think 4 weeks vacation, 11 holidays and just over 2 weeks sick if needed is fair. I know the government wastes money but I do not see it here. These should be for skilled positions, however. Unskilled work does not generally carry benefits, and the government should not pay beyond what private industry does. (Yes...I know...government contractors get more than private but this thread is not about that.)

Something I do not understand...Juneteenth is so-called because it is the Saturday in June with a number in the teens. Will it not remain a Saturday? Therefore, wouldn't the majority (not all) of federal workers have been off anyway? Or...do they get Friday since the holiday is on a weekend?

Not to worry they will take Friday or Monday. Won't pass up an extra paid day off provided by all non government workers.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by lindaelane

Basically, it appears to be four weeks vacation for most (five for those there a very long time), 11 holidays (Christmas, Thanksgiving, things a majority of people have, plus two or three many do not get like President's day) and if taken, up to 13 sick days.

There is usually incentive to save sick days, and worse treatment at work to those suspected of using them unnecessarily. I think 4 weeks vacation, 11 holidays and just over 2 weeks sick if needed is fair. I know the government wastes money but I do not see it here. These should be for skilled positions, however. Unskilled work does not generally carry benefits, and the government should not pay beyond what private industry does. (Yes...I know...government contractors get more than private but this thread is not about that.)

Something I do not understand...Juneteenth is so-called because it is the Saturday in June with a number in the teens. Will it not remain a Saturday? Therefore, wouldn't the majority (not all) of federal workers have been off anyway? Or...do they get Friday since the holiday is on a weekend?

They always get a day off for a holiday that occurs on a weekend. It is either a Friday or a Monday.

13 days of sick leave per year may not sound like a lot, but it can be accululated over the years. So, if you are a supervisor of long term employees, many of the employees will have the option of using an entire year of accumulated sick leave and be absent from the job any time they want. They can even use it to care for another person they know. There are many Federal employees in their 60s, 70s, and 80s, who almost never show up for work. A "for profit" business could never operate with those rules.

[Tom2172]

Government is out of control - which is why talking about government or politics is often forbidden and banned!
Politicians don’t like being questioned or second guessed by their subjects!

[jbrown132]

I bet next they will change the work week from 40 hours to 32 hours so everyone will have three day weekends.