[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Probably be a high turnout for the election, and a first time vote, among street dealers.

Yeah you know street dealers, smugglers, and illegal growers are going to be voting in droves to make sure this bill doesn't pass.

They want it to remain illegal, because this is THEIR profits the government is talking about.

[dougjb]

I forgot....do I smoke a joint first and then go vote....OR ....do I vote first and then go smoke a joint....hmmm

Oh well..as I ponder this...who the hell hid the cheetos?

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by Byte1

So, we should legalize DUI? Is that what you are advocating? Since driving after drinking is done all the time, we should legalize it?

No I am saying if alcohol is legal marijuana should be legal they do the same thing people abuse them both, so what’s the difference? One of the big differences alcohol kills more clearly than marijuana does but yet people wanna be hung up on it being illegal.

[jack_pine]

Originally Posted by Laurawilcox

Do you want the squares smelling of pot? We lived in Denver for over 30 years. We were one of the first states that legalized marijuana and we couldn’t wait to get out based on what it became. It is not your college day drug. It is rank and strong. We had medical marijuana before but that didn’t have the impact likely because it was still a stigma to smoke in public and not easy to get for those who came for the legal version. Denver grew substantially with 21 years old - 30 all there for the dispensaries. Many also into other drugs, it was the beginning of the city smelling like skunk all of the time. Few cared about work and instead hung around corners looking for handouts.

You can’t get out of your car near most shops without the stench. It is legal to smoke it on your porch next to the elementary schools with the kids walking by and it’s much harder to explain to your high school student why it’s not something you should do when it’s legal. Everyone can try it now and many more do. It is simple to get. College kids were at parties eating dispensary sold cookies, by the way a small piece of it is a full pot serving, eating more than they should and walking off of rooftops at parties in downtown and on campuses. Do you see Wildwood and Leesburg being different sort of folk?

That age group seems to have enough to deal with these days. Imagine your spring break crowd with easily available dope? It draws them here! Denver had folks fly in for $500 a pop to get high in limos and drive around for pot tasting at the dispensaries.

Before you vote envision your next day at the beach sitting in fumes, or at the squares listening to music with the smoke wafting over you. The non-dopers soon stop coming and welcome to Denver, at those venues they are all that’s left. Once it starts you will not enjoy those places again.

Refer madness I say

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Yeah you know street dealers, smugglers, and illegal growers are going to be voting in droves to make sure this bill doesn't pass.

They want it to remain illegal, because this is THEIR profits the government is talking about.

If you want to end drug gangs and murdering violence then the only way to do that is to end drug laws. Every gangster will be voting to keep drugs illegal...Including government gangsters.

End drug laws and gang violence will just go away immediately.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by MorTech

If you want to end drug gangs and murdering violence then the only way to do that is to end drug laws. Every gangster will be voting to keep drugs illegal...Including government gangsters.

End drug laws and gang violence will just go away immediately.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by MorTech

If you want to end drug gangs and murdering violence then the only way to do that is to end drug laws. Every gangster will be voting to keep drugs illegal...Including government gangsters.

End drug laws and gang violence will just go away immediately.

Not "end" them. But "change" them. Regulate drugs. Just the way alcohol and its use is regulated. Legal to buy IF you're of age and produce a valid ID, in the appropriate retail venue (such as a liquor store or wine section in the supermarket). Legal to use IN PRIVATE or other designated areas. Not legal to drive while using, or drive under the influence. And if you get into an accident while under the influence, it is your fault, your insurance company will want a word with you, and you get a ticket and/or jail time for DUI. No matter what the drug. From alcohol to zolpidem, prescription or over the counter, or even home-made.

[graciegirl]

This thread is interesting to me. I think it shows who currently is smoking it. I don't even drink any more. When the doctor tells you to wear shoes with backs so you don't trip and fall, I figure adding something like this to the mix wouldn't be a good choice to improve balance.

I think there will be an opportunity for the low-lifes and scallywags to knock you down and take your stash, because those rascals don't want to work. If you take away guns, only good people would follow the rule. If you legalize pot, there will be those impaired driving their cars at you.

There isn't an easy fix to this issue.

You can't legalize morality.

[kingofbeer]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

This thread is interesting to me. I think it shows who currently is smoking it. I don't even drink any more. When the doctor tells you to wear shoes with backs so you don't trip and fall, I figure adding something like this to the mix wouldn't be a good choice to improve balance.

I think there will be an opportunity for the low-lifes and scallywags to knock you down and take your stash, because those rascals don't want to work. If you take away guns, only good people would follow the rule. If you legalize pot, there will be those impaired driving their cars at you.

There isn't an easy fix to this issue.

You can't legalize morality.

The amendment will pass. I guess 64% will vote in favor. The smell is offensive, but you get used to it after a while. The smell is better than cigarettes and the stinkin' cigar smokin' freaks in The Villages. I hate when then smoke their cigar in the golfcart when they pass by me.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Not "end" them. But "change" them. Regulate drugs. Just the way alcohol and its use is regulated. Legal to buy IF you're of age and produce a valid ID, in the appropriate retail venue (such as a liquor store or wine section in the supermarket). Legal to use IN PRIVATE or other designated areas. Not legal to drive while using, or drive under the influence. And if you get into an accident while under the influence, it is your fault, your insurance company will want a word with you, and you get a ticket and/or jail time for DUI. No matter what the drug. From alcohol to zolpidem, prescription or over the counter, or even home-made.

That's all well and good, BUT the question is: Has law enforcement found something as fast as a breathalyzer for alcohol that can be used for testing for pot DUI? Granted, my experience is decades old, but from what I know/knew some form of specimen (hair, tongue tissue, blood) had to be sent off to a lab. Like blood tests for alcohol cannot be forced upon a possible DUI, neither can blood or tissue test be forced for a marijuana test(as far as I know). I am not sure about a urine test. So, if physical evidence such as a baggie of weed or a pipe with residue is not in the suspect's possession, it makes it hard to convict for DUI by pot. I am only speculating, and may be wrong. Modern technology may now be able to assist the street cop in proving impairment due to pot.
But, like I said before, just because it's easier to legalize some deviant action, does not make it right. Recreational use of pot is not necessary and is harmful. This has nothing to do with the comparison to alcohol usage. Legalizing alcohol was another excuse for their not being able to enforce the ban. They used the excuse of added tax revenues. Same with tobacco. There is no healthy reason for tobacco use.

[JRcorvette]

People are going to do it so let’s make it Legal and Safe. That’s just common sense which there is a lack of these days.

[MorTech]

I don't even take aspirin but issuing a death threat, aka, "Law" against people who self-medicate in a way I disagree with is both stupid and evil. I embrace the principles of self-ownership because I'm a man.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by JRcorvette

People are going to do it so let’s make it Legal and Safe. That’s just common sense which there is a lack of these days.

People are gonna use coke, meth and heroin so lets make it legal. People are gonna speed on the road and speed in golf carts, so lets just make it legal. It's the easy way. Everyone cheats on their taxes, so lets just make it legal. It's the easy way. "That's just common sense which there is a lack of these days." Like a famous dunce likes to say "C'mon man."

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

This thread is interesting to me. I think it shows who currently is smoking it. I don't even drink any more. When the doctor tells you to wear shoes with backs so you don't trip and fall, I figure adding something like this to the mix wouldn't be a good choice to improve balance.

I think there will be an opportunity for the low-lifes and scallywags to knock you down and take your stash, because those rascals don't want to work. If you take away guns, only good people would follow the rule. If you legalize pot, there will be those impaired driving their cars at you.

There isn't an easy fix to this issue.

You can't legalize morality.

You also can't prohibit judgmental opinions about people you've never met.

1. There are ALREADY impaired drivers driving their cars at you. That's what DUI and DWI (driving while impaired) laws exist to regulate. It doesn't matter if a drug is legal or not. People will drive while impaired or under the influence, and they already do.

2. There is nothing immoral about cannabis. That is your judgment of people you know nothing about.

3. I am 100% pro-legalization of cannabis. I haven't smoked it since the 1980's, and the last time I had a gummy, it was for pain of post-surgery recuperation, and I absolutely hated it and will never try that again. The next time I have that kind of pain, I will have my licensed medical professional prescribe me a 3-day supply of Vikoden - which is an opiate, and legal, and if I drove under the influence of it I would surely crash and injure or kill someone - or myself. So again - judgment of people you know nothing about.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

You also can't prohibit judgmental opinions about people you've never met.

1. There are ALREADY impaired drivers driving their cars at you. That's what DUI and DWI (driving while impaired) laws exist to regulate. It doesn't matter if a drug is legal or not. People will drive while impaired or under the influence, and they already do.

2. There is nothing immoral about cannabis. That is your judgment of people you know nothing about.

3. I am 100% pro-legalization of cannabis. I haven't smoked it since the 1980's, and the last time I had a gummy, it was for pain of post-surgery recuperation, and I absolutely hated it and will never try that again. The next time I have that kind of pain, I will have my licensed medical professional prescribe me a 3-day supply of Vikoden - which is an opiate, and legal, and if I drove under the influence of it I would surely crash and injure or kill someone - or myself. So again - judgment of people you know nothing about.

Please read my post again. Then reread this one.

Then perhaps we can debate being judgmental about people we know nothing about.