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nick demis 08-05-2021 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverRose (Post 1983568)
Florida now has 11,515 people hospitalized for Covid. This is a new record. Since Florida had a total population of 21.48 million. This means one in every 1865 Floridians is now hospitalized for Covid.

Despite record COVID-19 hospitalizations, Florida'''s governor says '''admissions have slowed'''
OMG Every one is going to die from covid we should all lock ourselves in the basement.
Please do so the rest of us can get on with our life and not be bothered by you wackos.

Dana1963 08-05-2021 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by talonip (Post 1983990)
There have been over 5000 deaths from the so called vaccination. The second shot can be deadly. Survival rates are 98.5% untreated over all age groups. Adding treatments like hydroxychloriquin, ivermectin, monoclonal antibodys and more increase the survival by over 60%.

I am not living in fear.
It’s as if 45 wasted BILLIONS on a Vaccine we really didn’t need!

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-05-2021 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bella6368 (Post 1984021)
Do your research, all those Covid numbers of death were unfounded. Did you know this?
Fraudulent PCR Tests EXPOSED! CDC Quietly Withdraws Emergency Use Authorization Due to Inability to Differentiate COVID-19 & Influenza. That's why the flu suddenly disappeared when Covid came on board. Fear mongering really works well.
You got that headline from one of several alt-right white conspiracy "the election was a fraud" science-denying anti-vaxx political Proud White Klan Boys websites. I just copied and pasted the entire line to a google search and those were the ONLY places I saw it.

Not even typical right-wing or somewhat conservative websites had that headline. It was only the extremists - the domestic terrorist daily news sites.

regas56 08-05-2021 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1983880)
So far on the 4 travel sites that I belong to no facility is offering $5000 per week. But some are offering a one time bonus. But I am just skimming the hundreds of real opportunities weekly from some of the top agencies.

When you were offered $5000 a week did you have to travel to the Carolina’s, or did you get that money in Florida?
I spent 4 days in a level 4 trauma Hospital being monitored for a different medicine and had a total of 3 out of state Covid Nurses, one from Orlando and 2 from Texas and they told me their incentives were nearly twice their normal rate and they got living expenses..One Texas Nurse said she'll make a years salary in her 4 month term. When I asked why they were helping me they said because they're aren't enough Covid patients in the hospital at that time other than Covid RELATED illnesses so they were using them elsewhere.. This was in late March however however..

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-05-2021 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverRose (Post 1983568)
Florida now has 11,515 people hospitalized for Covid. This is a new record. Since Florida had a total population of 21.48 million. This means one in every 1865 Floridians is now hospitalized for Covid.

Despite record COVID-19 hospitalizations, Florida'''s governor says '''admissions have slowed'''
Admissions have slowed because they've run out of space to admit them.

Dana1963 08-05-2021 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by talonip (Post 1983990)
There have been over 5000 deaths from the so called vaccination. The second shot can be deadly. Survival rates are 98.5% untreated over all age groups. Adding treatments like hydroxychloriquin, ivermectin, monoclonal antibodys and more increase the survival by over 60%.

I am not living in fear.
It’s as if 45 wasted BILLIONS on a Vaccine we really didn’t need!

Flillini 08-05-2021 08:32 AM
Don't trust the covid death numbers!!
 
I personally know of eleven people that had a relative that was added to list of covid deaths. All of them were already sick with other diseases like ALS, alzheimers (stopped eating), heart conditions, etc.. or just plain old. Each one had underlying conditions that were leading to death soon. All eleven were listed as cause of death as covid?? Numbers don't add up. Too much money given to hospitals if covid listed as cause of death.

GrumpyOldMan 08-05-2021 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Ski Bum (Post 1984013)
Because if you die in a car wreck, and you test positive, you died from COVID. A bit of an exaggeration, yeah, but just a bit.
Proof?

Bob.Betty 08-05-2021 08:37 AM
I'm old and unvaccinated, haven't been sick a day in my life

JustRita 08-05-2021 08:37 AM
.005% are under the age of 24

Swoop 08-05-2021 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ski Bum (Post 1984013)
Because if you die in a car wreck, and you test positive, you died from COVID. A bit of an exaggeration, yeah, but just a bit.
You should listen to this:
https://hoiabc.com/2020/04/20/idph-d...re-classified/

KRMACK55 08-05-2021 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Rose Ann Vinci Igoe (Post 1983652)
I just want to give people a heads up no matter what your feeling now. I just found out 4 of my vaccinated friends have COVID... VERY BAD.. IV'S ADMINISTERED... AND a couple of months ago, another 2 of my friends got COVID, ONE with in 2 weeks, died, suffocated to death fast. The other was my brother 6 weeks in ICU almost lost him 3xs could not regulate heart, lungs filled with puss yes puss not Flem .. he is alive... 3 months later home and damage w blood clot.. this is no joke. pls even if you are vaccinated... masks and distance... its not a get out of jail card.. and the variant is spiking as we speak... oh ya.. on these people... it was there FAMILY MEMBERS THAT GAVE IT TO THEM....
Curious how old is your brother ?

KRMACK55 08-05-2021 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1983680)
That is pretty much meaningless unless you care to explain why they explain 600,000 dead in the last 18 months from COVID and 20,000 dead from the flu.

PLEASE not the "600,000 is a hoax" answer... sigh
600,000 did not die from the virus. All states were incentivized to put Covid on death certificates and health departments reported deaths that way. My friend in Illinois lost her mother at 93. She didn’t have Covid yet the death certificate said that’s what she died from. Cancer flu heart disease accidents etc got reported as Covid. Wonder how many autopsies were done to investigate further.

B-flat 08-05-2021 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by vikingjunior (Post 1983716)
close the border.
Amen!

KRMACK55 08-05-2021 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1983684)
They no longer know these numbers to be true due to the failed PCR testing results being what ever virus dead or alive showed up...half could have been a bad flu for all you know.
A friend just attended a music festival out of state. Before she returned she had a PCR test and sent me a copy the test stated negative but then below that it states that PCR tests have a false positive and false negative 4/7 times.This was 3 days ago I was shocked at that form, performed at Emory hospital in Atlanta.

richs631 08-05-2021 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverRose (Post 1983568)
Florida now has 11,515 people hospitalized for Covid. This is a new record. Since Florida had a total population of 21.48 million. This means one in every 1865 Floridians is now hospitalized for Covid.

Despite record COVID-19 hospitalizations, Florida'''s governor says '''admissions have slowed'''
Don’t believe everything you hear in the media. The media hates our governor so they attack him on everything. If this country was so worried about Covid they would stop the hundreds of thousands of illegals crossing our border. No vaccinations for them and their not even wearing masks. But in NYC you can’t sit in a restaurant unless your vaccinated. Wake up people. Rules for some and none for others. Before you all jump down my throat I’m for vaccinations. Ask yourself why the double standard?

richs631 08-05-2021 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1983680)
That is pretty much meaningless unless you care to explain why they explain 600,000 dead in the last 18 months from COVID and 20,000 dead from the flu.

PLEASE not the "600,000 is a hoax" answer... sigh
Get vaccinated. Why don’t you call the White House and ask them why hundreds of thousands can cross the border with no vaccine or even a mask but I have to show a negative test when I return from international travel. Why the double standard. Why is it harder for a US citizen to enter this country than a illegal

cherylncliff 08-05-2021 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1983674)
To put it in perspective if you are hospitalized with the flu you have a 7% chance of dying and about 1% with Covid.
NOT TRUE! From the Lancet, a respected medical journal:

The presentation of patients with COVID-19 and seasonal influenza requiring hospitalization differs considerably. Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 is likely to have a higher potential for respiratory pathogenicity, leading to more respiratory complications and to higher mortality. In children, although the rate of hospitalization for COVID-19 appears to be lower than for influenza, in-hospital mortality is higher;

richs631 08-05-2021 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Vikingjunior (Post 1983716)
Close the border.
Someone with common sense. Thank you

Buckeye Bob 08-05-2021 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DrBrutyle109 (Post 1983853)
Best thing to do is lock yourself in a closet with a mask and face shield. You do that while I go out and play golf and enjoy my life. You can be hurt everyday just walking out the door. More room outside for me.
Love your attitude. The 3rd leading cause of death is MEDICAL errors.

merrymini 08-05-2021 09:31 AM
Deaths
 
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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1983680)
That is pretty much meaningless unless you care to explain why they explain 600,000 dead in the last 18 months from COVID and 20,000 dead from the flu.

PLEASE not the "600,000 is a hoax" answer... sigh
The death numbers from 2020 do not support this information

Flillini 08-05-2021 09:33 AM
I had covid. Had the chills for about half day. Lost sense of smell. Had a cough for couple of days. Nothing compared to times I had the flu. No problems since then.

Flillini 08-05-2021 09:34 AM
Amazing how flu and common cold have all but disappeared!?

hrenner 08-05-2021 09:35 AM
It is NOT more deadly. If a person is HOSPITALIZED that statistic may be true, but the vast majority of flue patients are NOT hospitalized. Flue is NOT MORE DEADLY

Bill14564 08-05-2021 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1984087)
The death numbers from 2020 do not support this information
The death numbers from 2020 have been shown multiple times in various threads. What do you mean they don’t support this information and what data do you have for that assertion?

Waltdisney4life 08-05-2021 09:39 AM
Same old bs!!!

g142056 08-05-2021 09:44 AM
Misleading
 
You numbers are very misleading. When they figure COVID numbers it is based on number of people that have positive tests. The flu numbers are based on total population. You can use percentages, you can make percentages look good or bad depending on what your motive is so please don't use misleading numbers, this is the fear mongering the press does

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1983707)
More misinformation!

To really put it "in perspective" with the facts:

The hospital admission rate for COVID varies with age----2.5% ages 18-49, up to 17.2% age over 85, average 7.3%. Of those hospitalized, 15% died, could not get a breakdown by age, but WAY above 1%.

The hospitalization rate for seasonal influenza is 9.1/100,000 population or .0091%., and about 10% of Americans get the flu each year, so 0.091% vs. 7.3%
So your chances of ending up in the hospital with "the flu" is miniscule compared to COVID

I couldn't find an accurate number for the percentage of hospitalized flu cases that die, but we know the mortality rate year to year is about 0.1% of cases. The 15% deaths of 7.3% hospitalized COVID patients come to about 1%, or 10x as deadly as flu, which is in line with other known data

So bottom line, if that was hard to follow, is that you are MUCH MORE LIKELY to die of COVID than the flu.

PS: My numbers are all from the CDC especially MMWR. And yours?????

MDLNB 08-05-2021 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by forebubba (Post 1983985)
Nearly 200,000 people are turned away at the border every month. It is not an open boarder for all. Why do they come here? What is the root problem?

The gates are not OPEN but the rest of the border IS OPEN. How many folks are turned down for visas to our country? Lots is the right answer. Our borders being open are telling folks that it is better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission.

GrumpyOldMan 08-05-2021 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Ski Bum (Post 1984013)
Because if you die in a car wreck, and you test positive, you died from COVID. A bit of an exaggeration, yeah, but just a bit.
Okay, were will ignore the fact-checking of false attributions that has been done over and over.

30,000 deaths from auto accidents every year (roughly) so, if we say ALL of them are attributed to COVID and not drunk driving or running off clifts etc. Then, please explain away the other 570,000 COVID deaths.

jimjamuser 08-05-2021 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1983606)
Anyone needing non-COVID hospital services are also suffering. Elective diagnostics and surgerys are delayed leading to non-COVID deaths.

Most cruel is the inability to visit loved ones in the hospital.
Last week I stated that elective surgeries were stopping at Florida hospitals and was "poo /pood" and ridiculed because of it. This week it is just an accepted fact. That shows just how FAST the situation is changing because of DELTA. And Florida's CV statistics show that the human-designed agencies paid for by taxpayers were inept and "asleep at the switch" when it comes to fulfilling their prime directive - namely to keep Floridians SAFE from all enemies-domestic or foreign - whether Virus-sized or larger. So, keep throwing your taxpayer money away on an inept product!

Spalumbos62 08-05-2021 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Dond1959 (Post 1983599)
If you are vaccinated your risk of hospitalization is very low, and your risk of death is very, very low. It is mainly younger, unvaccinated people going to the hospital and unfortunately dying. It is their choice to not be vaccinated at this time so they will suffer the consequences.

Sad, but so true.

carlanddiane 08-05-2021 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 1984125)
Sad, but so true.
everyone should have the right to choose whether they get the vaccine or not but maybe they should be denied hospital treatment if they come down with a verified case of covid

Spalumbos62 08-05-2021 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1983721)
EXACTLY. Operation Warp Speed gave us two excellent vaccines but the rollout this year has been a disaster for lack of leadership and Covid infected illegal immigrants being seeded across the country.

"This is a guy who ran for office saying he’s going to shut down the virus," DeSantis added. "And what has he done? He’s imported more virus from around the world by having a wide open southern border."

My thought is the lack of true leadership from our wonderful governor of fl.
He has a big mouth that doesn't stop, just the wrong stuff comes out.
Case in point...look at these hospital numbers we are referencing and he doesn't care if the kids wear mask or not. I don't get him, I'm embarrassed for him. Then the pres says do it right or get out of the way and he replies with come get me....oh brother, for the love of god, and we wonder where the hostility comes from.....

Swoop 08-05-2021 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by carlanddiane (Post 1984131)
everyone should have the right to choose whether they get the vaccine or not but maybe they should be denied hospital treatment if they come down with a verified case of covid
Everyone should have the right to choose whether they overeat or not, but maybe they should be denied hospital treatment it they have health issues due to obesity…
I can continue to use other examples, but I would hope you get the point…

jimjamuser 08-05-2021 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1983721)
EXACTLY. Operation Warp Speed gave us two excellent vaccines but the rollout this year has been a disaster for lack of leadership and Covid infected illegal immigrants being seeded across the country.

"This is a guy who ran for office saying he’s going to shut down the virus," DeSantis added. "And what has he done? He’s imported more virus from around the world by having a wide open southern border."
The rollout of the vaccines HAS been a disaster! Not because of the reason stated in the post, but due to the unpatriotic, unAmerican attitudes and actions of the anti-vaccine cult. This disaster was preventable. Vaccines were available to ALL adult Americans, but propaganda media sold almost 1/2 of America into NOT receiving the life-saving vaccines. Now late in the game, some are starting to pick life and vaccines over phony propaganda. And the DELTA variant says, "thanks for leaving the door wide open for me for so long".

Spalumbos62 08-05-2021 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1983995)
How about doing the humanity thing and vaccinate these immigrants? There’s more than enough vaccine that the southern states aren’t using.

I heard just yesterday they are.

Timothyimitchell 08-05-2021 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by john41 (Post 1983674)
to put it in perspective if you are hospitalized with the flu you have a 7% chance of dying and about 1% with covid.
this

Aloha1 08-05-2021 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverRose (Post 1983568)
Florida now has 11,515 people hospitalized for Covid. This is a new record. Since Florida had a total population of 21.48 million. This means one in every 1865 Floridians is now hospitalized for Covid.

Despite record COVID-19 hospitalizations, Florida'''s governor says '''admissions have slowed'''
A better way to look at it is .0005% are in the hospital. And most never got the shots.

Spalumbos62 08-05-2021 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1984137)
Everyone should have the right to choose whether they overeat or not, but maybe they should be denied hospital treatment it they have health issues due to obesity…
I can continue to usze other examples, but I would hope you get the point…

I get what you are saying...but that is long term...this is different, it's a pandemic...they have the choice right now to choose the shot to prevent, they put their foot down and say no......ok...no soup for you......or else...you pay that hospital bill. Or.... since they feel it's just a flu type thing...stay home and nurse it yourself....either way...good luck

Swoop 08-05-2021 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 1984151)
I get what you are saying...but that is long term...this is different, it's a pandemic...they have the choice right now to choose the shot to prevent, they put their foot down and say no......ok...no soup for you......or else...you pay that hospital bill. Or.... since they feel it's just a flu type thing...stay home and nurse it yourself....either way...good luck
So let’s try out your new twist. Smoking is okay because it’s long term, but if you walk outside in a thunderstorm and get hit by lightning - it’s your fault since you could have prevented it, and it’s short term…


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