It is hard to articulate that fear. It is why we tell our sons you can't do what others can because you don't get the benefit of the doubt. That assumptions will be made of you despite your reality. Even when he is an adult that he is not seen as a man but a threat. Despite the fact he has 2 degrees, supervises a staff of 50, married and no outside children. Still is aware of assumptions made it is exhausting.

Not sure why this comparison thing continues.

Police across the country are condemning the officers involved, yet some still try to come up with an excuse on this forum.

We can't discuss certain issues, but always, no matter the situation everyone goes to the same "corner". So many scary things happened today, I am embarrassed for my country. That last sentence was difficult and emotional to even type, as someone who served this country militarily and in elected officials offices for many years.

Trying to justify bad actions, no matter who is wrong.

Nice how you turn things around to suite your thinking.
If you would read my post correctly you would see "if the cops tried to protect themselves in the midst of the rioting and looting, it would be decried as racist. You just love to turn things around. You should reall get a job as a "journalist".

"What keeps happening, over and over, is unarmed black men being killed by white police officers...with a lack of consequences."


You know "what keeps happening'? news, that's what makes the news, that's what makes headlines, and if there's a video?? that's a ratings boost! It's not as prevalent as you and the media would like everyone to believe. Some of us are much more intelligent to decipher truth and reality. You seemed to have missed that boat.
I sure could say, and have said, loads more but the "mods" don't seem to like what I have to say.
Steve

.. and where were the other 3 officers AND civilians that witnessed this ... AND they all just let it happen !!! I am outraged that the civilians just ‘stood’ around and would not get involved !! So tonight they are probably saying ‘ Oh, I WISH I had done more !!!

The civilians were telling the cops to get off from him and that he couldn't breathe...
What do you want the civilians to do kick the cops off from him! sheeesss!

The civilians were asking the cop to get off his neck so George could breathe. What else could they do? If they physically tried to remove him it is highly likely they would have been arrested at least.

Whatever happened to due process? If the police officers are guilty they should be sent to prison and given maximum sentence.

Why is it that whenever these things happen the citizens of the community seem to protest by looting stores that provide them with jobs?

No, he didn't.
Surveillance tape from the store shows entire incident.

Irrelevant in THIS situation because that specific "method" of subduing a suspect is AGAINST THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY.

They did something wrong. They knew it was wrong when they did it. They knew it was wrong WHILE they were doing it. And they knew it was wrong when their suspect died, while they were doing it.

They murdered a man who was unarmed, was NOT resisting arrest, was handcuffed, and was on his stomach on the ground.

And then - if that wasn't enough, they CONTINUED to knee his neck to make SURE he was dead, after he was already dead.

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As tempting as it is, I'll refrain...from pointing out the obvious irony.

Oops. :D

Have a great evening. :ho:

WOW....just serving and protecting I suppose.

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I agree, police officer should be prosecuted! This is one reason there is such a hatred of the police by black citizens.

:ohdear: With the violence and destruction that is occurring the entire outlook by most will be lost and shifted from the issue. So much for peaceful, meaningful protest. Now with the media coverage there will be seismic shift in the perception of most of America. The damage done physically and emotionally will take generations to overcome if, as in other areas that have seen these actions, it will ever come back. How about shutting down the city not burning it down. Now instead of pictures and discussions of the murdered man and the bad officers it is all about the riots. Great way to get a message out to the masses.

Yep.


Ferguson riots destroyed a town, a community.

And a hatred of any police officer of any color that abuses his "authority" on anyone of any color or race.
Steve

Why is it you only see this in America? People destroying their own cities to protest perceived injustice. Like dogs crapping in their own crates out of frustration.

The ex-cop (remember he was fired - he's not a cop anymore) who put his knee on George Floyd's neck has had 18 other complaints filed against him in the past - and two of those complaints were "closed with discipline." This is according to the Minneapolis Police Department official records.

The other ex-cop in the video who was actually facing the camera and standing up, had 6 complaints against him in the past - one of which is still open, the others closed without discipline.

So there is a history of problems with both of these ex-cops. The other two who you don't see in the video but were also fired, had no prior complaints against them.

18 complaints, and only two of them closed with discipline - on a single police officer. It never should've gotten that high in the first place. The structure of their department is flawed, to allow someone to rack up 18 complaints, and only close two - and both of them "with discipline."

You're kidding, right? Take a look at the gilet jaune protests in France last year. The protests in Hong Kong have been very violent and destructive. The destruction in Tehran last November caused by demonstrators protesting against fuel hikes. Just a few examples. And more:

Protests of 2019 - Wikipedia

We should be better than this

I agree...we should be.

We are "stirred" daily NOT for the benefit of our country.

We have been divided as promised.

Kneeling on a mans neck for eight minutes and the man saying I can't breath is a VERY excessive force. Did the man deserve to die? NO!

Is it okay to riot and loot because you're angry? NO!

I do not understand why the officer would kneel on the guys neck so long. What could he have possibly be thinking especially when other people around are filming this.

I think that he figured, that based on the vast majority of historical similar actions in this country...he could get away with it.

One can only imagine, how many times white officers have used excessive force on people of color...when no camera is around. :mad:

Would like to hear the officers side of the story.

You "think" that he "figured"? :pray:

Steve

I also wonder how many times white officers us excessive force on white suspects. It isn't solely a one way street. 78% of suspects shot and killed by police are white, of course that doesn't make the headlines as often. That being said, this incident remains deplorable.

We will.....in court. That is how it works, unless killed before then.

I am struck by the tone on here. I also repel violence and looting (that story of WHO did that will be interesting) but the entire tenor on this forum is now about the police and the actual crime has become secondary.

Do U think excessive force has happened to white people as well ? I do. Just saying...Its not ok for any race..unfortunately we look at race way too often. Someday, we hopefully can look at this incident and say a police officer used excessive force on a MAN,,,,and maybe avoid all the race baiting disruptive activities that follow....riots etc

Honolulu Star Advertiser:
“MINNEAPOLIS >> The Minneapolis police officer who was seen on video kneeling on the neck of George Floyd, a handcuffed black man who died in custody after pleading that he could not breathe, was arrested today and charged with murder.”

After watching the video that was posted, and listening to what George Floyd was detained for, this was my impression too.

That might be the most racist statement I’ve heard or read from any source since this terrible event occurred.

Remove “white” and “of color” and it would have raised a fair question.

Absolutely correct

Would it be any different than the other 18 times he was called on the carpet??

In the last 3 1/2 year I have seen or heard the word "RACIST" being used more than the other years of my entire life....
The word is being over use and it is losing its meaning!

I have no idea but he does get to tell his side of the story in court

I see what you are implying there.
It sure is used here more, and by a very few I might add, surely not the majority. Some even label others racist's in non- coherent rants when you disagree with their way of thinking. Hell some even believe , in their immature minds, that "everyone" that has picked the opposite fork in the road wears a KKK robe and carries a torch in one hand and a noose in the other. These are people that you cannot have an honest and viable, or intelligent for that matter, conversation with, these are the angry ones, these are the self righteous, self appointed "saviors". Pitiful really, pitiful.
Colorful words from a keyboard it seems are the only weapons against hate, racism and bigotry, while they sit on their hands decrying that "no one is doing enough". Please, get away from that keyboard, walk a actual mile in others shoes, and tell them they are not doing enough. Generalizations
I know many people and have plenty of friends that walk the same roads, but take different paths. Sometimes we come to a fork and take the path we think is the right one, that's always a good thing. Big difference is, with an open mind while traveling those paths they have plenty of time to think, to take in the "scenery", and they eventually meet down the road, and walk the same road, friends again, and talk about what they have seen on their paths, it's rational and never self absorbing.
It's very different here for some.
Steve

All of us who are privileged to be white and in the villages for the most part financially secure, wonder why the black community doesn’t protest peacefully. I would submit that is exactly what Kaepernick was doing and yet you post a picture as if his protest was the same thing as those burning and looting. Darian is the real problem in this country.

There may have been a personal grudge...George Floyd & Fired Cop Worked Security Together at Club: Report