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Old 06-10-2020, 08:12 AM
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Your lack of sensitivity to funerals in the black community is showing. If you had ever attended one, you would know that this one was much like every other one in the community. You also obviously did not know that the man killed and the man that murdered him were both employed by the same nightclub as security and did not get along in that setting. Floyd objected to Chauvin's aggressive tactics. Murder 1 could be argued. Floyd had some issues with drugs and crime but had turned his life in a better direction until this incident.
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And how did that "poor" family pay for that extravagant GOLD coffin?
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Old 06-10-2020, 08:20 AM
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Defunding he police is not he solution. ANARCHY will follow and IS NO SOLUTION AT ALL.
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Old 06-10-2020, 08:21 AM
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And how did that "poor" family pay for that extravagant GOLD coffin?
I was wondering when this would come up.

I would be interested to see the final tab for the entire funeral and who paid for it.

A good follow the money project.
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Old 06-10-2020, 08:26 AM
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With all this over the top reaction from the media, continued protest and destruction of property, and the farce of practically a state funeral for George Floyd.
I would hazard a guess, that rather than unite, it is driving a bigger wedge between the racial and political divide in the US. and by continuing, the protest is defeating its own objective.
One only has to read on this board the distance of opinion between the posters to see how wide that divide is, if reflected across the whole country.
You are so right. Right after the killing of George Floyd I believe the public was 100% in agreement in condemnation of his killing. I saw not one person that supported the officer responsible and still don’t. Yet the reaction by looting and burning and the condemnation of all police has caused a wedge that will last a decade or more. Now even those that condemned Floyd’s killing have animosity toward the whole thing. Oh, and those that make their living off the decisiveness (Al Sharpton, Black Lives Matter, etc) have now received another decade in which they can shake down corporations with threats and boycotts if they don’t get what they want and unfortunately the corporations and sports leagues, etc will capitulate which just encourages more. If you give in to a bully you will never stop their demands.
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Your lack of sensitivity to funerals in the black community is showing. If you had ever attended one, you would know that this one was much like every other one in the community. You also obviously did not know that the man killed and the man that murdered him were both employed by the same nightclub as security and did not get along in that setting. Floyd objected to Chauvin's aggressive tactics. Murder 1 could be argued. Floyd had some issues with drugs and crime but had turned his life in a better direction until this incident.
Methamphetamine and Fentanyl was found during his autopsy by both physicians, the one for the state and the one for the family.

Can you link us to the interchange between Floyd and Chauvin at the nightclub where they were both employed? I can't find a trace of that. It must have been removed from on line sources for some reason.
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I read this thread with aplomb ... because the character of the dead man is not relevant to the discussion of how we as a society should view this situation. The police are not the problem. And yet I hope the policies of the police forces can be the solution. I read that this technique of subduing a man was used 244 times in Minneapolis over the past three years (with 16 deaths). Perhaps there is another technique ... other than kneeling on a handcuffed man's neck until he passes out. I hope so.
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Yep, why not "honor" all career violent criminals? Why not portray all of them with wings and a halo? Disgusting!
There is no excuse for the excessive force used, but all George had to do was COMPLY WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS OF LEOs, as we all are required BY LAW to do.

Why wasn't Rodney King, or Michael Brown, or Eric Garner given the same "honor". Why wasn't there talk of defunding and dismantling police force at those times?

But for all those who are happy with the way this criminal was "honored" with an elaborate funeral, just ask yourself just WHO PAID FOR IT? Probably the same people who paid to bus in "peaceful protesters" to the riots and looting
Boxing legend Floyd Mayweather paid for George Floyd's funeral.

Boxing legend Floyd Mayweather is paying for George Floyd's funeral - CBS News

BTW.....have you read George Floyd's autopsy (not the one done by the families request)? I haven't read the entire report but hubby read to me the "interesting" parts.
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Thank you for your eloquent reply, I would not have been so nice. His criminal record means nothing, he was murdered by that policeman, period.
We must stop the needless killing of black and brown people, if we don't, what we see now will continue.
And we need to address systematic racism. I am a classic example of white privilege. Poor white trouble maker growing up to a single mom. Running on the streets of South Jersey, police turned a blind eye too many times, instead moving on to the black neighborhood to make a collar because that's what all the white people wanted to hear that we were keeping those reckless trouble maker blacks in line. It's horrible and it's true, the system is absolutely designed to suppress the black people. Discrimination is real, I've witnessed white people not hire a more qualified candidate because of his/her skin color, or pick the white candidate because he was someone's friend. And this wasn't some local mom and pop company I'm talking US Government hiring. We have a systematic racism problem in the US that needs to be addressed.

I'm actually glad the show COPS has been taken off the air, I hope LIVE PD follows, as these shows perpetuate the problem of systematic racism.
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Old 06-10-2020, 08:44 AM
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I thought it was the funeral for President Kennedy. Only in America can a thug, druggy felon be treated like the leader of the world. Where will they put his statue? Will they will be naming schools after him?
I'm wondering the same thing, where will they build the George Floyd statue. Probably have him wearing a suit and tie with a briefcase in his hand or maybe even better, riding a horse in military uniform. Pointing out toward a new horizon. I'm sure Oprah will pay for it, or the mayor of minneapolis will have the taxpayers there pay for it. Then we'll have a national holiday every year in June on a monday, George Floyd Day.

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I thought it was the funeral for President Kennedy. Only in America can a thug, druggy felon be treated like the leader of the world. Where will they put his statue? Will they will be naming schools after him?
Seems "Thug" is the word of the day, hmmm wonder where got started. You can always tell who watches Fox Faux News.
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And we need to address systematic racism. I am a classic example of white privilege. Poor white trouble maker growing up to a single mom. Running on the streets of South Jersey, police turned a blind eye too many times, instead moving on to the black neighborhood to make a collar because that's what all the white people wanted to hear that we were keeping those reckless trouble maker blacks in line. It's horrible and it's true, the system is absolutely designed to suppress the black people. Discrimination is real, I've witnessed white people not hire a more qualified candidate because of his/her skin color, or pick the white candidate because he was someone's friend. And this wasn't some local mom and pop company I'm talking US Government hiring. We have a systematic racism problem in the US that needs to be addressed.

I'm actually glad the show COPS has been taken off the air, I hope LIVE PD follows, as these shows perpetuate the problem of systematic racism.
Back up your post with actual facts. Let’s see the statistics that support your narrative.
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Defunding he police is not he solution. ANARCHY will follow and IS NO SOLUTION AT ALL.
I think everyone agrees the Police need to be REFORMED and DEMILITARIZED and not DEFUNDED, so glad to have your attention on this subject now, let move forward and take action to make these reforms to eliminate systematic racism.
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With all this over the top reaction from the media, continued protest and destruction of property, and the farce of practically a state funeral for George Floyd.
I would hazard a guess, that rather than unite, it is driving a bigger wedge between the racial and political divide in the US. and by continuing, the protest is defeating its own objective.
One only has to read on this board the distance of opinion between the posters to see how wide that divide is, if reflected across the whole country.
People don't like things being shoved down their throat. Multi city funerals. Final mile in a horse drawn carriage. Over the top for sure. That does not negate the horror of his death. But saying this man that has committed some despicable acts , "changed the world " is pandering to a select group and leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
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