[Swoop]

If you go by what is reported by the national news networks, you would assume that unarmed blacks were being killed daily by police, in numbers much higher than whites. Actually there were 13 unarmed blacks shot by police last year and twice as many whites. The media decides what they want you to hear. If Floyd was white, the national news media wouldn’t even have picked up his story!!

[billethkid]

Depends who is looking at it!

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Kerry Azz

Just when you think stupidity was getting better on TOTV. Another one comes along and removes all doubt. I think the almost 9 minutes of an officers knee on George Floyd’s neck was a huge part of the turmoil that followed.

The exact same thing did happen to a white man. Yet there was no media coverage, no riots, no defund the police rhetoric. And clearly, his name is not widely known...

[Bonnevie]

I think the reactions to these killings bring to mind how all black men regardless of social status can recount times they were stopped by police for no good reason. what I learned at the gathering by the African American club held after the George Floyd incident, is that it's now "if" but "how old were you when" you were first stopped by police. Even Sen. Tim Scott has written about how he's been stopped and how he was called boy and the officer had his hand on a weapon. Per his account:He described several encounters with police, including one where he was stopped because the officer suspected his car was stolen. He described a similar incident that happened to his brother, a command sergeant major in the U.S. Army. And he told the story of a staffer who was "pulled over so many times here in D.C. for absolutely no reason other than driving a nice car." The staffer eventually traded in his Chrysler for a "more obscure form of transportation" because "he was tired of being targeted."

none of these recent killings has the Black person being shot been the most shining example of their race, but it represents the extreme of the experience that all have experienced.

It's easy for us to say just follow what police tell you....we are not victims of the discriminatory practice of "driving while Black". it doesn't happen just once in their lives, it happens over and over. Can you imagine how annoying it would be to be driving somewhere you need to be and being pulled over for nothing. how degrading that feeling is? now multiply it....the anger is pushed down until something extreme happens and then it erupts.

look how some people are responding to not wearing masks-- the outrage over their "rights" as Americans not to wear a mask. from recent article: "Armed anti-mask protesters gathered outside the Ohio statehouse on Saturday for a 'civil disobedience rally' guarded by armed militia and military veterans.
Ohio does not yet have a statewide mandate on wearing masks but several groups converged Saturday afternoon to push back on the requirements already introduced in several counties.Hundreds of maskless people crowded together outside the courthouse in Columbus to voice their anger, claiming a requirement for face coverings is an overreach by local officials." ARMED militia over wearing masks????

Yet we give no consideration to how Blacks feel when their rights are infringed upon routinely. They are expected to just accept their treatment and have to give talks to their children how to avoid being killed during a police stop, something I never had to do to my white child.

People point to the looting and I oppose that as well but I'm not entirely sure some of these armed militia aren't stoking that to cause violence to advance their own causes.

[billethkid]

Ask the rank and file black citizenry.....not the black criminals or the black jocks.

[Bjeanj]

Originally Posted by Swoop

The exact same thing did happen to a white man. Yet there was no media coverage, no riots, no defund the police rhetoric. And clearly, his name is not widely known...

Swoop, cite your source(s), and name of victim, please.

[soonerforever]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

I think the reactions to these killings bring to mind how all black men regardless of social status can recount times they were stopped by police for no good reason. what I learned at the gathering by the African American club held after the George Floyd incident, is that it's now "if" but "how old were you when" you were first stopped by police. Even Sen. Tim Scott has written about how he's been stopped and how he was called boy and the officer had his hand on a weapon. Per his account:He described several encounters with police, including one where he was stopped because the officer suspected his car was stolen. He described a similar incident that happened to his brother, a command sergeant major in the U.S. Army. And he told the story of a staffer who was "pulled over so many times here in D.C. for absolutely no reason other than driving a nice car." The staffer eventually traded in his Chrysler for a "more obscure form of transportation" because "he was tired of being targeted."

none of these recent killings has the Black person being shot been the most shining example of their race, but it represents the extreme of the experience that all have experienced.

It's easy for us to say just follow what police tell you....we are not victims of the discriminatory practice of "driving while Black". it doesn't happen just once in their lives, it happens over and over. Can you imagine how annoying it would be to be driving somewhere you need to be and being pulled over for nothing. how degrading that feeling is? now multiply it....the anger is pushed down until something extreme happens and then it erupts.

look how some people are responding to not wearing masks-- the outrage over their "rights" as Americans not to wear a mask. from recent article: "Armed anti-mask protesters gathered outside the Ohio statehouse on Saturday for a 'civil disobedience rally' guarded by armed militia and military veterans.
Ohio does not yet have a statewide mandate on wearing masks but several groups converged Saturday afternoon to push back on the requirements already introduced in several counties.Hundreds of maskless people crowded together outside the courthouse in Columbus to voice their anger, claiming a requirement for face coverings is an overreach by local officials." ARMED militia over wearing masks????

Yet we give no consideration to how Blacks feel when their rights are infringed upon routinely. They are expected to just accept their treatment and have to give talks to their children how to avoid being killed during a police stop, something I never had to do to my white child.

People point to the looting and I oppose that as well but I'm not entirely sure some of these armed militia aren't stoking that to cause violence to advance their own causes.

healthpsychologyconsultancy.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/the-victim-personality/

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Bjeanj

Swoop, cite your source(s), and name of victim, please.

Tony Timpa, google his name. You’ll get the local news coverage, complete with video, but no national coverage. But there were a few minor differences that make Tony’s story even worse...

[soonerforever]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Tony Timpa, google his name. You’ll get the local news coverage, complete with video, but no national coverage. But there were a few minor differences that make Tony’s story even worse...

Google will bring many results just like this.

[bagboy]

Originally Posted by Bjeanj

Swoop, cite your source(s), and name of victim, please.

https://www.postandcourier.com/georg...d219a1095.html

This double murder just occurred. Black man murders white man and his step daughter after traffic incident. It had to be all over the national news, can't believed you missed it.

[Bonnevie]

show me the statistics that say White men in nice cars are routinely pulled over by police vs Black men. As I pointed out, EVERY Black man has experienced this. I was attempting to explain how even though George Floyd and Jacob Blake are not exemplary people, what they experienced was an extreme version of what all Black men endure--thus the collective anger. In those instances, it's not a "victim" personality--it's people going about their daily lives being stopped for no reason.

I was so struck by the African American Club members at the anti-racism demonstration--these are very educated people many of whom had high ranks in the military and/or successful careers (after all they can enjoy living in The Villages) and when one was describing "the talk" they all had to give their kids, every one of their male members were nodding their heads. They talked about the difference between a white student going to the prom vs a black students. how the black parents can't sleep because they worry the kids might be stopped by police. can you imagine? students dressed for the prom have to worry about that.

[Red White & Blue]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Tony Timpa, google his name. You’ll get the local news coverage, complete with video, but no national coverage. But there were a few minor differences that make Tony’s story even worse...

. . . . . Tony Timpa

Thank you Scoop for bring this to our attention.
I think Bjeanj should send a memo to CNN referring to this matter....

[soonerforever]

Responsibility (to ones family, country, and society) has NO color....self victimization is a mental disorder that has no color as well.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

show me the statistics that say White men in nice cars are routinely pulled over by police vs Black men. As I pointed out, EVERY Black man has experienced this. I was attempting to explain how even though George Floyd and Jacob Blake are not exemplary people, what they experienced was an extreme version of what all Black men endure--thus the collective anger. In those instances, it's not a "victim" personality--it's people going about their daily lives being stopped for no reason.

I was so struck by the African American Club members at the anti-racism demonstration--these are very educated people many of whom had high ranks in the military and/or successful careers (after all they can enjoy living in The Villages) and when one was describing "the talk" they all had to give their kids, every one of their male members were nodding their heads. They talked about the difference between a white student going to the prom vs a black students. how the black parents can't sleep because they worry the kids might be stopped by police. can you imagine? students dressed for the prom have to worry about that.

Please, “driving while black” is the most perpetrated false narrative. Yet if enough people repeat it, it must be true...

[soonerforever]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Please, “driving while black” is the most perpetrated false narrative. Yet if enough people repeat it, it must be true...

So many people parrot what they hear on MSM like it is actually a fact.