[Sarah_W]

Originally Posted by tsmall22204

I think you are over stating the possibility of drones. Do you know what a drone pilot is? Do you know how many would be needed?
The guns are what kill people in any mass shooting. Stop sidestepping the real issue.

The real issue is some people want to kill other people and some want to kill a lot of people. If the government chose to violate our Constitution, the supreme law of our land, it would be the end of America as our Founding Fathers envisioned. It would be the end of Liberty in our country. Take away all of the guns and you still have people who want to kill others and kill many. It is astounding to me that our Legislators in Congress spend millions and millions of dollars on obscure studies and to date there hasn't been a full study on all mass shootings. What is the profile of a mass shooter?What drives them? Why and how do they choose their target? What is creating these deranged/evil people?

We need answers to all of the above. After the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas mass shooting it didn't take long for the Florida legislature to pass laws and create the Coach Aaron Feis Guardian program. It has been implemented in schools across the state. There is a school in Indiana that is active shooter proof. Go on YouTube and search for "Inside the safest school in America" and see what they did. We could do the same for half of what we sent to Ukraine a few weeks ago. Write your elected leaders to investigate and solve the problem, rather than attacking our Constitution.

If you really want to help solve the problem, actively engage in the solution. Do something rather than lament. Get involved.

Our government has spent billions to arm the Ukrainian people, and now want to spend millions to disarm the American people. Think about that.

[Accidental1]

Originally Posted by donassaid

More technology, more government control, more loss of personal freedom. Really? How about we put Jesus back in schools, fathers back in homes, and eliminate violent movies and video games that treat the taking of human life so flippantly?

It appears that you support less government but the fixes you propose imply more government control (mandating your religion in school, banning entertainment etc).

[Mushkie]

Originally Posted by Living a Fantasy

This morning I posted a petition to address the mass shootings and to request signatures on change.org. My link is accessible by clicking on the web address that follows this overview.

My Overview

Staying Alive has become a crap shoot not knowing if a mass shooter is arriving at a school or university, concert, airport, office, manufacturing building, or government building. What defense does one have as a victim of such a shooter? What causes the shooter to justify such behavior? Is it caused by school bullying, medical issues, violence from TV programs, social media, etc?

Staying Alive was also a crap shoot during the height of the COVID pandemic. Fortunately, science and technology in the hands of scientists at pharmaceutical companies paved the way ultimately to reduce infections and deaths. Government incentives helped the cause and solution.

Technologies exist today, if properly integrated, to help reduce and even eliminate mass shootings --- at least help to deter the shooter. These technologies, to my knowledge, haven't addressed the mass shootings as I propose. There now exist technologies to dispatch drones from rooftops of buildings triggered by motion detectors on the ground; smell-trained dogs that patrol people and baggage at airports; metal detectors in government buildings and at airports; insect drones the size of a fingernail that can fly in swarms that are controlled or programmed by humans.

I would like signatures on this petition to invite the government and private companies to provide incentives to use a combination of technologies (like the above) to deter and prevent mass shootings.

In schools, I see drones positioned in their chargers on rooftops or within corridors in buildings. Motion detectors and metal detectors trigger their movement to the location of the threat. Within the building they come down in swarms on the intruder emitting a siren sound while sending notifications to law enforcement and teachers in the schools. Outside of the building, larger drones come down as well; but maybe able to spray the intruder. Throughout the day and at random, drones will patrol the outside of the buildings to deter intruders.

Similar drone activities and safeguards can be used in any building, airport, concert hall, theme park, etc. A marketing campaign by the media and the government and municipalities would help educate and deter an individual from even thinking of a mass shooting.

Multimillionaires and billionaires are also invited to pool their resources to modify and improve on my suggestions. Is it a Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Musk, Mark Cuban passion? I don't know; but it would help our children, and parents, and concert goers feel safe when walking the streets and attending large gathering events.

I urge all to share and modify my thoughts for mankind to benefit. Sign the petition, send it to your government officials, or network of entrepreneurs.

Someone categorized three kinds of people in the world as:

1. Someone who makes things happen!

2. Someone who watches what happened!

3. Someone who wondered what happened!

Together, just maybe, the signers of this petition can make this happen. The link with the overview and instructions for signing the petition follow:

Petition * Integrated Technology using Drones to Reduce and Eliminate Mass Killings * Change.org

To use drones or any spy technology operated by the government “for our protection” is a BIG NO for me. The scariest words one can hear is “Hi, I am with the government and here to help/save you”…. RUN.

One World Order/World Economic Forum leaders and fascist throughout time would love your suggestion. The phrase “Public health and safety matters more than personal liberties” was used by Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Lenin to murder, exterminate, slaughter hundreds of millions of their citizens they labeled dangerous for society. They justified mass murder for “public health and safety”. The largest mass murder in US history was done by the US government using this same evil phrase. On December 28, 1890, US federal agents and the 7th cavalry went to Wounded Knee Creek to confiscate the guns from the Sioux Indians -“for their safety and protection” of course. As soon as a majority of the Sioux had surrendered their guns, the cavalry opened fire and slaughtered all 297 Indians- 200 of the 297 were women and children.

I thought after WW2 we said “never again”. Never again would we allow personal liberty be trampled over for the false promise of “safety and security”.

Ben Franklin warned “any society that will trade a little liberty for a little security, deserves neither and loses both”!!

The reality is there is evil and sadness in the world. It is an unrealistic expectation to think we can rid sadness and evil from life her on earth. Children have this kind of magical thinking and FASCISTS use this magical thinking to enslave us. The idea to strive for zero deaths from gun violence or zero deaths from cancer or zero deaths from car accidents or zero deaths from “the flu” is propaganda pushed fascist leaders attempting to dupe citizens into trading liberty for the false promise of safety. on people by people that are unaware it’s a classic fascist tactic.

THE PROMISE OF A UTOPIA is a Trojan horse to usher in tyranny- don’t fall for it.

Our country was founded on the pursuit of FREEDOM not the pursuit of the NANNY STATE. Freedom by definition is risky, dangerous, nothing is guaranteed. But a life without FREEDOM isn’t worth living.

The argument that that science and BIG PHARMA and the government saved us with “the flu” is just a BIG LIE. Those 3 entities CREATED, capitalized on a flu to be used as a Trojan horse to see how SUBMISSIVE and easily duped into trading away our liberties for the false promise of safety.

The increased mass shootings and attacks in schools and churches/synagogues and hospitals directly correlates with the passing of “gun free zone” laws. Criminals may be evil but they aren’t stupid- they look for soft targets - and the Government “for our protection” made these locations as soft as possible. You gotta ask yourself, why no mass shootings at a shooting range or gun shop??? And you gotta ask yourself why would the Government want to condition us to feel “safer” with law abiding citizens being banned from owning guns?

Statistics of gun shooting and gun deaths prove the STRICTER the gun laws - the higher the number of shootings and deaths.

And evil doesn’t need guns to kill- evil can use cars and trucks and planes, knives, poison, skate boards, baseball bats, fire, and machetes. What makes you think evil won’t use drones for mass murder?? What stops a fascist regime from using drones for surveillance to locate and kill law abiding citizens that question or oppose their regime by labeling them “dangerous to public health and safety”??

Do not be conditioned to feel safer giving up our freedom and liberties for the false promise of a Utopia.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by kenoc7

Putting Jesus back in schools, fathers back in homes and eliminating violent movies and video games (lol) are all useless when it comes to reducing mass shootings. The only things that work are fewer guns that are harder to get. Evidence from numerous other countries proves this. An 18-year-old in the USA can't buy alcohol, lawn darts or a Kinder Surprise but they can buy a weapon of war. Totally stupid priorities.

Same old party line. Unfortunately, I've never seen a gun at a store unlock itself, go to the ammunition counter and load itself, float out the front door and head immediately to a school or movie and hover in mid air shooting people. "Other countries" have different cultural values and to their benefit don't have the "frontier mentality", gun culture, or lack of respect for authority among certain groups that we have to deal with.

Nineteen kids were killed in Texas, a great tragedy. Another instance where 19 kids were killed, along with 169 adults occurred in the neighboring state of Oklahoma. That one only involved a van, fertilizer and gasoline. Homicidal nut jobs will find a way. Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, and just look at their shootings.

Full discloser: I've never even held a gun in my hand, but I have read the US Constitution

[Blackbird45]

I'm a heavy believer in the second amendment, but I also believe that a number of regulations can be put into place to reduce firearm deaths in this country. Putting that aside when it comes to the school shootings or things of that nature you can have a close link camera system in each school, so law enforcement will know who and what they're dealing with before they enter a situation. This is also a protection for teachers and lawsuits.

I do not believe we should arm teachers. There have been many incidents where teachers have physically attack students. If you have to deal with children all day, you can understand why. But comes the day a teacher pulls out a gun and kills a child all the proponents of arming teachers will remain silent.

Now when it comes to drones, maybe all police cars should be equipped with drones.
Instead of a police officer approaching a car, a drone will keep them at a safe distance until they are sure it is safe to approach.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Blackbird45

I'm a heavy believer in the second amendment, but I also believe that a number of regulations can be put into place to reduce firearm deaths in this country. Putting that aside when it comes to the school shootings or things of that nature you can have a close link camera system in each school, so law enforcement will know who and what they're dealing with before they enter a situation. This is also a protection for teachers and lawsuits.

I do not believe we should arm teachers. There have been many incidents where teachers have physically attack students. If you have to deal with children all day, you can understand why. But comes the day a teacher pulls out a gun and kills a child all the proponents of arming teachers will remain silent.

Now when it comes to drones, maybe all police cars should be equipped with drones.
Instead of a police officer approaching a car, a drone will keep them at a safe distance until they are sure it is safe to approach.

Like a reaper armed with missiles?????

[midiwiz]

Originally Posted by Living a Fantasy

This morning I posted a petition to address the mass shootings and to request signatures on change.org. My link is accessible by clicking on the web address that follows this overview.

My Overview

Staying Alive has become a crap shoot not knowing if a mass shooter is arriving at a school or university, concert, airport, office, manufacturing building, or government building. What defense does one have as a victim of such a shooter? What causes the shooter to justify such behavior? Is it caused by school bullying, medical issues, violence from TV programs, social media, etc?

Staying Alive was also a crap shoot during the height of the COVID pandemic. Fortunately, science and technology in the hands of scientists at pharmaceutical companies paved the way ultimately to reduce infections and deaths. Government incentives helped the cause and solution.

Technologies exist today, if properly integrated, to help reduce and even eliminate mass shootings --- at least help to deter the shooter. These technologies, to my knowledge, haven't addressed the mass shootings as I propose. There now exist technologies to dispatch drones from rooftops of buildings triggered by motion detectors on the ground; smell-trained dogs that patrol people and baggage at airports; metal detectors in government buildings and at airports; insect drones the size of a fingernail that can fly in swarms that are controlled or programmed by humans.

I would like signatures on this petition to invite the government and private companies to provide incentives to use a combination of technologies (like the above) to deter and prevent mass shootings.

In schools, I see drones positioned in their chargers on rooftops or within corridors in buildings. Motion detectors and metal detectors trigger their movement to the location of the threat. Within the building they come down in swarms on the intruder emitting a siren sound while sending notifications to law enforcement and teachers in the schools. Outside of the building, larger drones come down as well; but maybe able to spray the intruder. Throughout the day and at random, drones will patrol the outside of the buildings to deter intruders.

Similar drone activities and safeguards can be used in any building, airport, concert hall, theme park, etc. A marketing campaign by the media and the government and municipalities would help educate and deter an individual from even thinking of a mass shooting.

Multimillionaires and billionaires are also invited to pool their resources to modify and improve on my suggestions. Is it a Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Musk, Mark Cuban passion? I don't know; but it would help our children, and parents, and concert goers feel safe when walking the streets and attending large gathering events.

I urge all to share and modify my thoughts for mankind to benefit. Sign the petition, send it to your government officials, or network of entrepreneurs.

Someone categorized three kinds of people in the world as:

1. Someone who makes things happen!

2. Someone who watches what happened!

3. Someone who wondered what happened!

Together, just maybe, the signers of this petition can make this happen. The link with the overview and instructions for signing the petition follow:

Petition * Integrated Technology using Drones to Reduce and Eliminate Mass Killings * Change.org

So rather than an attempt to fix the root cause just provide an ability to somewhat live with it? Ummm no . That's idea will do nothing more than create more range of excuses and complaints

[GOLFER54]

Our government has spent billions on trying to control the illegal drugs and guns that come into our country,and it seems they barely make a dent. Criminals do not go and purchase guns, they get them from other criminals. Those that purchase guns legally have to answer a questionnaire asking citizenship,arrest record to mental health, etc.Anyone who wants a gun will never check off that they are mentally unstable, and the background check the government does will not show that he or she has mental problems. So the gun that he or she now will receive depends on how that person intends to use it. Protect oneself and family from a criminal or become a criminal themselves.

[jammaiora]

Originally Posted by Living a Fantasy

This morning I posted a petition to address the mass shootings and to request signatures on change.org. My link is accessible by clicking on the web address that follows this overview.

My Overview

Staying Alive has become a crap shoot not knowing if a mass shooter is arriving at a school or university, concert, airport, office, manufacturing building, or government building. What defense does one have as a victim of such a shooter? What causes the shooter to justify such behavior? Is it caused by school bullying, medical issues, violence from TV programs, social media, etc?

Staying Alive was also a crap shoot during the height of the COVID pandemic. Fortunately, science and technology in the hands of scientists at pharmaceutical companies paved the way ultimately to reduce infections and deaths. Government incentives helped the cause and solution.

Technologies exist today, if properly integrated, to help reduce and even eliminate mass shootings --- at least help to deter the shooter. These technologies, to my knowledge, haven't addressed the mass shootings as I propose. There now exist technologies to dispatch drones from rooftops of buildings triggered by motion detectors on the ground; smell-trained dogs that patrol people and baggage at airports; metal detectors in government buildings and at airports; insect drones the size of a fingernail that can fly in swarms that are controlled or programmed by humans.

I would like signatures on this petition to invite the government and private companies to provide incentives to use a combination of technologies (like the above) to deter and prevent mass shootings.

In schools, I see drones positioned in their chargers on rooftops or within corridors in buildings. Motion detectors and metal detectors trigger their movement to the location of the threat. Within the building they come down in swarms on the intruder emitting a siren sound while sending notifications to law enforcement and teachers in the schools. Outside of the building, larger drones come down as well; but maybe able to spray the intruder. Throughout the day and at random, drones will patrol the outside of the buildings to deter intruders.

Similar drone activities and safeguards can be used in any building, airport, concert hall, theme park, etc. A marketing campaign by the media and the government and municipalities would help educate and deter an individual from even thinking of a mass shooting.

Multimillionaires and billionaires are also invited to pool their resources to modify and improve on my suggestions. Is it a Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Musk, Mark Cuban passion? I don't know; but it would help our children, and parents, and concert goers feel safe when walking the streets and attending large gathering events.

I urge all to share and modify my thoughts for mankind to benefit. Sign the petition, send it to your government officials, or network of entrepreneurs.

Someone categorized three kinds of people in the world as:

1. Someone who makes things happen!

2. Someone who watches what happened!

3. Someone who wondered what happened!

Together, just maybe, the signers of this petition can make this happen. The link with the overview and instructions for signing the petition follow:

Petition * Integrated Technology using Drones to Reduce and Eliminate Mass Killings * Change.org

The problem is there are more guns in the USA than people - 110 guns for every 100 persons. GW Bush and his party let the assault weapon ban expire and gun violence skyrocketed after. We need Federal laws on Red Flag, gun registration, 21 years old, waiting periods, gun use training, and assault rifle ban (AR 15 type). That would be a start!

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by donassaid

More technology, more government control, more loss of personal freedom. Really? How about we put Jesus back in schools, fathers back in homes, and eliminate violent movies and video games that treat the taking of human life so flippantly?

You love that 2nd amendment, that has been so bastardized from its original intent, but not that pesky separation of church and state? Jesus belongs in Sunday school, children should not be indoctrinated to any religion in school....

[Langwelld]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

If you're using drones to stop active shooters, then you've already lost. The focus should be on -preventing- those shooters from getting the guns, and then from getting them to the property where they plan on doing the shooting. Once they're already there, you're WAY too late.

Drones are a way to normalize mass shooting. It escalates the violence, it doesn't prevent it. When you "harden the doors" they'll just use weapons that can shoot through doors, or acids that can burn locks. When you send in heavily-armored guards, you'll encourage shooters to bring guns that have ammunition that can pierce armor. When you bring in drones that can detect shooters, you give shooters incentive to become better at hiding themselves, making it harder to detect them.

No - that isn't the solution. The solution is to REDUCE RISK of shooters existing in the first place. Universal background checks is a good start.

I wish we could ban guns, but we have seen that to be impossible. You just create a black market. Look at alcohol prohibition. Doesn’t work.

[MrFlorida]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

AK-15 could blow those drones out of the air in no time.

I would use a shotgun, there is no such thing as an AK15, know your guns before posting.

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[meridian5850]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

AK-15 could blow those drones out of the air in no time.

An AR-47, too.

[Marine1974]

The leaders in Washington should ban the sales of these military type weapons and ammunition immediately unless they want more of these mass shootings .The question is who are you kidding if you think you need or entitled to own an assault rifle . Your part of the problem. For those that conceal and carry and start firing at a shooter and miss and kill innocent people you should go to jail . The second you pull your weapon (amateurs ) you put all of us in danger . It’s obvious gun owners drive the manufacture of these weapons . Their weapons are more important to them than are children being slaughtered , sadly .

[Marine1974]

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