[Jameson]

Hollywood always jumps into the gun debate typically promoting taking everyone's guns. Yet when I turn on the TV I see a whole bunch of shows with gun violence and especially a lot of SWAT type shows using AR-15s. Just about every mass shooter has been dressed like a SWAT member equipped with an AR-15.

The other piece that is missing is an open discussion of the backgrounds of the shooters dysfunctional home life and prescription drug treatments. Many (if not all) have been on SSRI's or other drugs and stopped taking them with bad results.

[Joe C.]

When the "gun problem" (it's really a person problem) is taken care of, then the mass shooter will just get themself a flame thrower. And you can buy them right now....no permit, no background check, no nothing.
It will be the same problem with a different delivery.

[nhtexasrn]

Originally Posted by Living a Fantasy

This morning I posted a petition to address the mass shootings and to request signatures on change.org. My link is accessible by clicking on the web address that follows this overview.

My Overview

Staying Alive has become a crap shoot not knowing if a mass shooter is arriving at a school or university, concert, airport, office, manufacturing building, or government building. What defense does one have as a victim of such a shooter? What causes the shooter to justify such behavior? Is it caused by school bullying, medical issues, violence from TV programs, social media, etc?

Staying Alive was also a crap shoot during the height of the COVID pandemic. Fortunately, science and technology in the hands of scientists at pharmaceutical companies paved the way ultimately to reduce infections and deaths. Government incentives helped the cause and solution.

Technologies exist today, if properly integrated, to help reduce and even eliminate mass shootings --- at least help to deter the shooter. These technologies, to my knowledge, haven't addressed the mass shootings as I propose. There now exist technologies to dispatch drones from rooftops of buildings triggered by motion detectors on the ground; smell-trained dogs that patrol people and baggage at airports; metal detectors in government buildings and at airports; insect drones the size of a fingernail that can fly in swarms that are controlled or programmed by humans.

I would like signatures on this petition to invite the government and private companies to provide incentives to use a combination of technologies (like the above) to deter and prevent mass shootings.

In schools, I see drones positioned in their chargers on rooftops or within corridors in buildings. Motion detectors and metal detectors trigger their movement to the location of the threat. Within the building they come down in swarms on the intruder emitting a siren sound while sending notifications to law enforcement and teachers in the schools. Outside of the building, larger drones come down as well; but maybe able to spray the intruder. Throughout the day and at random, drones will patrol the outside of the buildings to deter intruders.

Similar drone activities and safeguards can be used in any building, airport, concert hall, theme park, etc. A marketing campaign by the media and the government and municipalities would help educate and deter an individual from even thinking of a mass shooting.

Multimillionaires and billionaires are also invited to pool their resources to modify and improve on my suggestions. Is it a Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Musk, Mark Cuban passion? I don't know; but it would help our children, and parents, and concert goers feel safe when walking the streets and attending large gathering events.

I urge all to share and modify my thoughts for mankind to benefit. Sign the petition, send it to your government officials, or network of entrepreneurs.

Someone categorized three kinds of people in the world as:

1. Someone who makes things happen!

2. Someone who watches what happened!

3. Someone who wondered what happened!

Together, just maybe, the signers of this petition can make this happen. The link with the overview and instructions for signing the petition follow:

Petition * Integrated Technology using Drones to Reduce and Eliminate Mass Killings * Change.org

Well, so much for a restroom hall pass at school! lol !! What about the janitor, or the mom who comes to the school to speak to a teacher or principal? What about the outside maintenance people at the school or public building? A motion detection insect drone is going to tell the difference? I know insect drone technology exists, but swarms of insect drones that attack and spray an intruder? Don't drones need someone operating them?

[Johnsocat]

I think we need to change the paradigm on what a gun actually is and what it's purpose is...
A gun (all guns) are simply tools.
Tools to hunt food with, tools to defend yourself with and tools defined in our Constitution to protect us, if need be, against a tyrannical government. There are other tools we could use to accomplish these purposes, but logic dictates you use the "best" tool for the job.
Current school policy is to send teachers and children into a locked room to hunker down until help arrives. Basically fish in a barrel whose lives depend upon a school resource officer and the response time of the local police force. This doesn't make sense to me, it is totally reactive and lacks any personal responsibility for their own safety.
Detetence through strength has been a proven policy of our Nation's military for as long as I can remember. No one wants to fight a battle they know they are likely to lose. Perhaps the fact so many citizens have weapons for defense are the reason no one has ever tried to invade our country... ?
I believe every classroom should have a gun contained in a biometric holster attached to the inside of their desks. They can be programmed with several finger prints or a key to release the gun in the case of an active shooter incident, allowing the teacher access to the tool needed to protect both themselves and those are responsible for.
Guns are tools, emergency equipment just like fire extinguishers and fire suppression systems. Used to combat a different kind of deadly threat.
It makes no sense to cower, defenseless, in a classroom with one armed person with evil intent.
We can change these horrible outcomes by providing these emergency tools to the adults who have the responsibility to care for and protect our children during school hours.
The perception that guns are a bad thing needs to be changed... they are in the simplest of terms, a tool. And the only tool, proven effective in these types of situations.
A last defense to protect life and limb in the classrooms when all other defensive planning has failed.

[Marine1974]

Hey Mr Florida, The main difference between the AK-74M and the AK-12/15 appears to be the new rifles are set up to accommodate weapon accessories that have become must-haves in modern, high-tech armies. The AK-12/15 features two Picatinny rails, an accessory mounting system invented by the U.S. Army’s Picatinny Arsenal for attaching items such as rifle scopes, red dot sights, and laser pointers. The AK-12/15 features a second rail under the barrel for attaching a vertical foregrip. The new rifles also have what appears to be an M-4 carbine-style buffer tube for attaching buttstocks and adjusting the weapon’s length of pull.

[Daxdog]

Originally Posted by kenoc7

Putting Jesus back in schools, fathers back in homes and eliminating violent movies and video games (lol) are all useless when it comes to reducing mass shootings. The only things that work are fewer guns that are harder to get. Evidence from numerous other countries proves this. An 18-year-old in the USA can't buy alcohol, lawn darts or a Kinder Surprise but they can buy a weapon of war. Totally stupid priorities.

How about just lock the door! That may have stopped the Texas shooter. It’s almost a no win situation, if they don’t have guns they will use a knife, or just blow the place up. Like Seth Rogen said that is the price you pay. That man is a jerk. Cops will always be one step behind the bad guy. No saying there is nothing we can do, but if open carry was the law of the land I think that could solve a lot of problems, not all, not by a long shot. Red flag laws, will we had a shooting on Ft Bragg that all his supervisors knew was a nut case but afraid to report because it would make them look like a racist. Maybe we should have another branch of the military that trains and posts guards at every school or large public gatherings, that would be real “HomeLand Security”. I’m done go ahead a bitch at me!

[rockyhyder]

Originally Posted by tsmall22204

I think you are over stating the possibility of drones. Do you know what a drone pilot is? Do you know how many would be needed?
The guns are what kill people in any mass shooting. Stop sidestepping the real issue.

It’s actually people who kill other people. In some cases they use a gun, others use cars, planes, bombs, etc. Accurately defining the problem is necessary in order to identify solutions.

[jdulej]

Originally Posted by rockyhyder

It’s actually people who kill other people. In some cases they use a gun, others use cars, planes, bombs, etc. Accurately defining the problem is necessary in order to identify solutions.

There seems to be no lack of crazies or zealots willing to kill, either to make some point or just for the fun of it. Why not make if more and more difficult for those people to get hold of weapons of mass destruction instead of easier and easier?

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by jdulej

There seems to be no lack of crazies or zealots willing to kill, either to make some point or just for the fun of it. Why not make if more and more difficult for those people to get hold of weapons of mass destruction instead of easier and easier?

It is that simple. Red flag laws, crackdowns on bullying and cyberbullying, watching neighbors and friends for odd behavior, trigger locks, gun safes, gun safety training, etc. And more understanding of mental health problems....

[jdulej]

I was against this at first, but it might knock some sense into some people. Mainstream media should be required to show pictures of the casualties from mass killings. When a single shot from one of these weapons results in so much damage that DNA analysis is needed to identify the victim, I think we have crossed a line of what a reasonable person would consider a reasonable weapon for a run-of-the-mill citizen to be able to own.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by jdulej

I was against this at first, but it might knock some sense into some people. Mainstream media should be required to show pictures of the casualties from mass killings. When a single shot from one of these weapons results in so much damage that DNA analysis is needed to identify the victim, I think we have crossed a line of what a reasonable person would consider a reasonable weapon for a run-of-the-mill citizen to be able to own.

That would be very hard on the victims' families.

And I do not know if it would do much good stopping the depraved individuals who do these crimes.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jammaiora

The problem is there are more guns in the USA than people - 110 guns for every 100 persons. GW Bush and his party let the assault weapon ban expire and gun violence skyrocketed after. We need Federal laws on Red Flag, gun registration, 21 years old, waiting periods, gun use training, and assault rifle ban (AR 15 type). That would be a start!

After your first sentence, pretty much every thing you posted was incorrect...

[zendog3]

Mass shootings are typically done by weapons designed for that purpose. I think it would be great fun to blaze away a few hundred rounds at targets, so I don't object to people owning and using them. But those weapons designed for mass killing are obviously too deadly for anyone be allowed to use anytime, and anywhere, they want. Owners of AR-15 type weapons should be required to store them in armories and use them at restricted gun ranges.

[Joe C.]

The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

People NEED to understand what infringed means.

There will always be criminals. They will always break the law. And when seconds count, the police can be there within minutes.

[Lindsyburnsy]

This was already declined because of possible abuse of the technology. Sending a petition out to a large conservative group of citizens before they understand the consequences is an overstep in my opinion.