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Old 06-21-2022, 10:35 AM
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More "Wokism". What's next? National holiday for homosexuals, transgenders, and illegal immigrants?

Don't forget Nancy Pelosi day, or Rev. Jesse Jackson Day??
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Old 06-21-2022, 10:46 AM
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Please do not try to put words in my mouth.

I think Lincoln was one of our greatest presidents and history would have been different if he lived to complete his second term.
He also kept more slaves then any other president in our time.

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Old 06-21-2022, 10:57 AM
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If also kept more slaves then any other president in our time.
If that sentence is supposed to imply that Lincoln owned slaves, please provide any reputable source for that.

"any other president in our time" Not sure who you include in "our." Lincoln died in 1865 which is about 100 years before *my* time.
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Old 06-21-2022, 11:21 AM
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They should return to the celebration of Washington’s and Lincoln’s birthdays separately.
Lincoln's birthday was never a Federal holiday.
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Old 06-21-2022, 11:32 AM
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Absolutely spot on. With the ultimate irony/hypocrisy being, that many of these same people are vehemently opposed to teaching our children the truth about the ugly parts of our country's history. Starting with the original big lie, that the Founding Fathers truly believed that: "All men are created equal."
Not a big lie.

First, the intention was that all men are created equal UNDER THE LAW, clearly not all men are equal

Second, at the time, the slaves were not considered "men"

Still, it does not obviate the lack of teaching the "ugly parts"
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Old 06-21-2022, 12:01 PM
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Another waste of taxpayer money giving a small minority group special treatment so all the government workers get another paid holiday. Ridiculous
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Another waste of taxpayer money giving a small minority group special treatment so all the government workers get another paid holiday. Ridiculous
Minority (race), minority groups (insignificant numerically) and special interest groups (also numerically insignificant) are the tail wagging the dog.
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Old 06-21-2022, 02:12 PM
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If also kept more slaves then any other president in our time.
Never heard that Abraham Lincoln owned slaves. Believe he was of relatively modest means.
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Old 06-21-2022, 04:18 PM
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I want President Trump on Mount Rushmore!!!
I'm surprised Mount Rushmore hasn't been blown to bits the way they keep tearing all other statues down.....

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Old 06-21-2022, 05:18 PM
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In 1903, a Black man walked into an office in a small town in Texas, seeking any news about whether slavery had ended. The inquiry from the man, who had been forced to labor without pay, came more than 38 years after Major Gen. Gordon Granger landed on Galveston Island, Texas, with more than 2,000 federal soldiers to deliver the belated news of freedom to enslaved Black people in Texas. Word of the end of bondage for the more than 250,000 enslaved Black people in the state arrived on June 19, 1865 — two years after President Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation.
Despite the clear instructions in General Order No. 3 and the announcement that day by Granger’s men that “the people of Texas are informed that, in accordance with a proclamation from the Executive of the United States, all slaves are free,” not every enslaved Black person in Texas was freed with that proclamation.
Enslavers across the state resisted the general’s order, hiding the news from enslaved Black people. Many Black people were forced to continue to labor under the oppression of ruthless enslavers and unscrupulous plantation owners. In some cases, enslavers killed enslaved Blacks rather than give them their freedom.
Slavery formally ended on Dec. 6, 1865 with ratification of the 13th Amendment which banned the existence of slavery and involuntary servitude in all states.
Your response is correct and the fact that enslaved people continued to be enslaved intentionally is something we should all find abhorrent. How sad so many people have missed that point.
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Old 06-21-2022, 05:29 PM
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Isn’t Juneteenth a little stupid to be called a holiday, really, how you celebrate Juneteenth day. I’m still scratching my head!
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Old 06-21-2022, 06:53 PM
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Isn’t Juneteenth a little stupid to be called a holiday, really, how you celebrate Juneteenth day. I’m still scratching my head!
How do you celebrate Independence Day, Thanksgiving, or Memorial Day? Juneteenth is certainly similar to one of those.
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Old 06-21-2022, 07:32 PM
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That would be The Emancipation Proclamation issued by President Lincoln on January 1, 1863. June 19, 1865 was merely the day news of it reached some folks in Galveston, Texas.
Which was basically an Executive Order.

The proclamation ended slavery in the Confederate states, but it remained legal and it continued in two Union states (Delaware and Kentucky) until the 13th Amendment was ratified on December, 6, 1965, almost 2 years later...
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Do we really need a national holiday now, 155 years later over this?
Apparently we do, because after 155 years, people still think there shouldn't be one.
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Old 06-21-2022, 08:27 PM
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If you could call in sick for a year and get paid, could you in good conscience do it? I couldn’t. Plus, wouldn’t the employer check to see if the employer is really sick? Taking the days without being sick would be fraud, wouldn’t it? I was a professor at a state university for 34 years. I accumulated over 450 days of sick time. If I’d become seriously ill, that sick leave would have been a life saver. I thought I’d simply lose it all when I retired, which is what usually happened. Instead, the state universities, wanting to get rid of those of us who were old and in the way, offered to pay us for one fourth of our sick days in a lump sum if we would retire at the end of the school year. A lot of us took that offer. That’s the only way I could afford to move to The Villages. The rest of those sick days went unused.
We weren't allowed to stack more than 2 years worth of sick time, and we got 1 day's pay for each month worked in sick days. That was back when I was still "of childbearing age" so once a month, like clockwork, I'd get a raging migraine and cramps. If that day was a weekday, you better believe I called in sick.

When I left that particular job after almost 5 years, I was not allowed to get paid for any sick days I'd earned and hadn't taken. That was a union job as a secretary for the phone company.

All my retail jobs allowed us to stack sick time for up to 18 months, depending on the company. But we only earned 1 hour's sick time for every 40 hours worked, whether you were full or part time. So if I worked 2 weeks at 20 hours per week, I earned 1 hour of sick time. But I had to fight for it in one of the jobs, where no one got any sick time at all, but the -state- mandated that they give it.
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