[The Chipster]

It is not a surprise that most posters here are not in favor of the new Juneteenth holiday. I am also not a fan of so many holidays, but sure as hell support this one. If any historical event in our country deserves a serious national holiday, the elimination of slavery should be near the top.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by The Chipster

It is not a surprise that most posters here are not in favor of the new Juneteenth holiday. I am also not a fan of so many holidays, but sure as hell support this one. If any historical event in our country deserves a serious national holiday, the elimination of slavery should be near the top.

That would be The Emancipation Proclamation issued by President Lincoln on January 1, 1863. June 19, 1865 was merely the day news of it reached some folks in Galveston, Texas.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

This is your fourth whiny post in this thread, and I just started page 2. Why do you care? Aren't you retired? How does this affect you other than annoying you?

First of all I am not retired still running a business.

As a taxpayer this is an additional cost to us. Govt wasting way to much money as it is and wish when they find a new way to spend they should find an equal way to save.

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

We all know why certain people are whining about this holiday.

Yes we do, and it's really sad.

[Pgcacace]

Holidays are in addition to vacation time, etc. Yes, this new holiday probably costs millions in pay. But the govt. will just print more money to cover it. ☹️

[meme5x]

Agree… why can’t other cultures be recognized.. Asian, Indian to mention a couple… they certainly have been discriminated against!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by MandoMan

If you could call in sick for a year and get paid, could you in good conscience do it? I couldn’t. Plus, wouldn’t the employer check to see if the employer is really sick? Taking the days without being sick would be fraud, wouldn’t it? I was a professor at a state university for 34 years. I accumulated over 450 days of sick time. If I’d become seriously ill, that sick leave would have been a life saver. I thought I’d simply lose it all when I retired, which is what usually happened. Instead, the state universities, wanting to get rid of those of us who were old and in the way, offered to pay us for one fourth of our sick days in a lump sum if we would retire at the end of the school year. A lot of us took that offer. That’s the only way I could afford to move to The Villages. The rest of those sick days went unused.

Federal employees have very good union and the know who to back.

[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

That would be The Emancipation Proclamation issued by President Lincoln on January 1, 1863. June 19, 1865 was merely the day news of it reached some folks in Galveston, Texas.

In 1903, a Black man walked into an office in a small town in Texas, seeking any news about whether slavery had ended. The inquiry from the man, who had been forced to labor without pay, came more than 38 years after Major Gen. Gordon Granger landed on Galveston Island, Texas, with more than 2,000 federal soldiers to deliver the belated news of freedom to enslaved Black people in Texas. Word of the end of bondage for the more than 250,000 enslaved Black people in the state arrived on June 19, 1865 — two years after President Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation.
Despite the clear instructions in General Order No. 3 and the announcement that day by Granger’s men that “the people of Texas are informed that, in accordance with a proclamation from the Executive of the United States, all slaves are free,” not every enslaved Black person in Texas was freed with that proclamation.
Enslavers across the state resisted the general’s order, hiding the news from enslaved Black people. Many Black people were forced to continue to labor under the oppression of ruthless enslavers and unscrupulous plantation owners. In some cases, enslavers killed enslaved Blacks rather than give them their freedom.
Slavery formally ended on Dec. 6, 1865 with ratification of the 13th Amendment which banned the existence of slavery and involuntary servitude in all states.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

In 1903, a Black man walked into an office in a small town in Texas,
...

You should give credit to the Washington Post article that this post seems to have been taken from.

[OhioBuckeye]

Can’t say I don’t agree with you but to make this a national holiday is a wasted day, for one reason or another!

[Rodneysblue]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Also some states and their school systems now treat Juneteenth as a paid holiday, not Florida though.

I still celebrate George Washington's Birthday on February 22 and Abraham Lincoln's Birthday on February 12 separately. The creation of Presidents' Day was inane.

They should return to the celebration of Washington’s and Lincoln’s birthdays separately.

[Bill14564]

I think a limit on the number of paid holidays would make sense. How about ten for a number? To have a different paid day off just decide which of the current holidays you will do without. Federal employees certainly are not overpaid but at the same time, we ought to get at least a certain amount of work for that pay.

[Geodyssey]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Washington and Lincoln both deserve their own dates for what they did for us.

You mean, "What Lincoln did TO us".

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Geodyssey

You mean, "What Lincoln did TO us".

Please do not try to put words in my mouth.

I think Lincoln was one of our greatest presidents and history would have been different if he lived to complete his second term.

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

We all know why certain people are whining about this holiday.

Absolutely spot on. With the ultimate irony/hypocrisy being, that many of these same people are vehemently opposed to teaching our children the truth about the ugly parts of our country's history. Starting with the original big lie, that the Founding Fathers truly believed that: "All men are created equal."