[Don5154]

Originally Posted by Shbullet

You sound like a cross eyed lawyer!

No need to name call

[obx2003]

As a retired Federal LEO who served for 28 years, I believe convicting Potter of first degree manslaughter was a major error by the jury, despite the unusual Minnesota laws. This is another example of why young adults will not consider law enforcement careers. The tables are tilted in a negative direction.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by ChrissyI1

Kim potter killed an unarmed young man. I feel for her because it was not an intentional act - but an accident. That being said - you can’t kill someone - accidental or not- and not be held responsible in someway. I agree with the jury - they definitely got it right.

Based on your above statements, with your logic applied consistently, Alec Baldwin should also be found guilty.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Based on your above statements, with your logic applied consistently, Alec Baldwin should also be found guilty.

[Petersweeney]

Originally Posted by Mikenbats66

What would have happened if she did not have a taser ?
Tasers only became common in past 35 years.
Another reason not to have females as street cops .

Glad she’s not on the street anymore….

[rshepard]

I have not watched the court case so I do not have an opinion on whether I believe the verdict was the right one.
However, looking back on many of these police shootings/killings, a common thread: resisting arrest. If G.Floyd, E.Garner, M.Brown, et al., comply, like society demands they comply, they'd all be alive today.
Where are the minority leaders when this kind of leadership would save lives ?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Andyb

This will set precedence that police will back off arrests in resisting criminals and many police will be quitting. It will
embolden criminals. Now, will self defense be in jeopardy for innocent victims?

I have more faith in the intelligence of police officers than you do I guess.

I think it'll set the precedence of more and superior training in the use of tasers, possibly a new design so that there's no way to confuse the two, and possibly even new holster designs so that tasers will be located at a completely different part of the uniform as a gun, making it even MORE difficult to confuse the two.

Perhaps a taser will require a different holster latch and be pulled by the officer's "off-hand" rather than their primary hand.

I think it'll make officers who use tasers in their job, more aware of which they're using. It will become more instinctual so that in that last split-second when they have to pull SOMETHING out of a holster, they'll pull the right thing.

[Hacker1]

A criminal with a 20-year rap sheet (out on a $500 bail), brutalizes, including running over with his vehicle, the mother of his child - is released on $2000 bail, then promptly drives into a Christmas parade, kills 6 & injures 60+ innocent victims - this time held on $2 million bail. On the other hand, Kim Potter has exemplary record including 26 years on police force with no incidents, accidentally kills a criminal, is held WITHOUT bail!! This just does not feel right nor just.

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by rpalumberi

We couldn't agree more. I read the post about the legislature and if that is true, all the police should leave minnesota and let them defend themselves. If this hoodlum had obeyed the authority of the police, didn't resist and attempt to flee, he'd be alive today to eventually get out and terrorize others. That's what people like this do who are coddled by society. This is why more people are moving to red states, leaving the stupidity of blue states - we just hope they leave their stinking thinking behind and embrace the wholesome freedom of law abiding red states. We're not perfect, nothing is - but these folks are literally insane. Defund the police, another great liberal idea. Oh yeah, and this idea of systemic racism is pure non sense - they have just revealed their own racism and made race relations worse.

moving to another state will work, I moved from Illinois,
every day it is becoming more and more the "liberal Paradise" I had a card carrying liberal next door who told me he was considering moving after listing all the on going and increasing problems state wide, my response was "and then you will vote to do there what you have done here?"

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I have more faith in the intelligence of police officers than you do I guess.

I think it'll set the precedence of more and superior training in the use of tasers, possibly a new design so that there's no way to confuse the two, and possibly even new holster designs so that tasers will be located at a completely different part of the uniform as a gun, making it even MORE difficult to confuse the two.

Perhaps a taser will require a different holster latch and be pulled by the officer's "off-hand" rather than their primary hand.

I think it'll make officers who use tasers in their job, more aware of which they're using. It will become more instinctual so that in that last split-second when they have to pull SOMETHING out of a holster, they'll pull the right thing.

I think you are right to depend on the intelligence of the average police officer, our society has decided it doesn't want the police to be proactive, they need to think like a defense attorney, if you can think of ANY possible reason not to make a traffic/street stop don't, if you can think of ANY reason not to make an arrest don't, if there is ANY reason to think what you see isn't criminal don't interfere, there buy keeping themselves safe, complying with what is required, of course you have a 30% increase in homicides nation wide (statically higher in areas where is has been a bigger problem ) as we march towards nirvana finding the perfect way to train for the chaos of unscripted violent confrontations

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by crash

Wow quite a mistake killed someone. What would you think if it was the other way around and it was the cop who was mistakenly killed.

What would you say to someone that backs out of a driveway and runs over and kills someone? That is vehicular manslaughter. Should they go to jail?
What if a drunk stumbles into your home and you shoot him? He made a mistake and had no intention of breaking into your home. He thought he was home when he broke into your home. You killed him, so should you go to jail for it?

I don't know all the specifics of this case, but there is many times in a police career where that officer must make a split second decision to act on an exigent circumstance. The totality of the circumstances should be considered. If there was no intent, then it is manslaughter. If it was accidental then it would be involuntary manslaughter. Was it negligent or not? Was the officer attempting in good faith to do her job when it occurred? Was she distracted? Was she scared?
Circumstances.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Based on your above statements, with your logic applied consistently, Alec Baldwin should also be found guilty.

Involuntary manslaughter seems to fit what he did.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

I think you are right to depend on the intelligence of the average police officer, our society has decided it doesn't want the police to be proactive, they need to think like a defense attorney, if you can think of ANY possible reason not to make a traffic/street stop don't, if you can think of ANY reason not to make an arrest don't, if there is ANY reason to think what you see isn't criminal don't interfere, there buy keeping themselves safe, complying with what is required, of course you have a 30% increase in homicides nation wide (statically higher in areas where is has been a bigger problem ) as we march towards nirvana finding the perfect way to train for the chaos of unscripted violent confrontations

Many of the people who thought it was a good idea to defund the police are coming to the realization of what they have done.

[toeser]

Parking someone with no criminal history in jail for many years for a mistake accomplishes absolutely nothing and just takes up good jail space.

A sentence of five years of community service would allow some good to come out of this terrible situation.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I could not have voted to convict. She was doing her job, and made a mistake. Surgeons make mistakes that result in death, but they never go to jail.

It seems no good deed goes unpunished these days.

Given the thug's criminal past, armed robbery and much more, it is possible he could have been going for a gun, which would justify shooting him. Perhaps if she would have called out "Stop or I'll shoot!" (meaning my gun) and then shot him she might still be a LEO. Instead, to be a nice gal, she only threatened the violent thug evading arrest with a non-deadly taser and in the heat of a split second act mistakenly pulled out her sidearm and shot him.