[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon

You're not supposed to be making "political" statements. I myself have been penalized for saying less.

I made no reference to political party, there being a difference between ideology and political party, I don't think one would have much trouble finding persons of any party where some would agree and some disagree, perhaps your implied criticism of the moderator is more of an ideological difference with my comment

[Frame44]

He may be a lawyer but not cross-eyed. The version the public consumes via the media is oversimplified and meant to bend to their narrative. The law is intricate and nuanced. What he explained about the law is exactly right. What was the LAW in MN? How was it violated? Can it be proven? The law doesn’t always come down to right and wrong sometimes it has to do with not being allowed to introduce certain types of evidence, or witnesses not being allowed by both sides, for example. Law is more complicated than us non-attorneys make it.

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon

I would not say she should not have been a cop, but she should not have been in a role that required a firearm. The problem in our society is that we have too many guns (more guns by 25 percent than people) and this has made the role of police officer much more stressful and dangerous. Consequently, as gun ownership goes up, there are more of these unnecessary and tragic shootings by police.

In this day and age how could she be a police officer and not be able to carry a weapon? Police departments in many jurisdictions are facing an exodus of officers, they are just not going to do what they asked to faced with with the current atmosphere, The second amendment was intended to protect the citizenry from an oppressive government, it never occurred to the framers that citizens would lose faith in the governments willingness/ability to protect them from other citizens and of course there are always those who abuse rights and privilege and now many are in fear of those persons

[Jokomo]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I could not have voted to convict. She was doing her job, and made a mistake. Surgeons make mistakes that result in death, but they never go to jail.

I’m glad you weren’t on the jury since it appears you’ve made up your mind without hearing the evidence presented to the jury.

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

A street cop works in a war zone, some areas much much more than others, the weapons officers carry is there for the defense of their life or others, how many of the jurors have ever been presented with a possible kill or be killed situation, the sort of situation the police face every time they get involved in a routine street stop, how often have the jurors been involved in mundane situations that suddenly explode in great violence?

"Be killed" he was trying to run away, not kill her. They knew him, they knew where he lived. They could have just gone to his house and arrested him. Instead they pull him over and get all aggressive and scare him half to death, then he tries to run..... this was hardly a kill or be killed situation.

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by rpalumberi

you are a complete utter loon, they were all criminals, they should move next to you

You do know police are suppose to protect and serve right, not be judge, jury and executioner.

[donassaid]

What kind of verdict do you expect in a lawless Democratic stronghold where the "rights" of criminals outweigh the rights of police officers and law abiding citizens? Tge fact is that every single one of these perps who have been killed by police officers would still be alive today if they had not resisted arrest including George Floyd.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by crash

No it is exactly like that if but for the air freshener and being black he would not of been pulled over. Not questioning if he should of been arrested for the warrant he should of been but not shot even by accident.

Tell me you didn't pay attention to the trial without telling me you didn't pay attention to the trial...

He was pulled over for expired tags...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon

I would not say she should not have been a cop, but she should not have been in a role that required a firearm. The problem in our society is that we have too many guns (more guns by 25 percent than people) and this has made the role of police officer much more stressful and dangerous. Consequently, as gun ownership goes up, there are more of these unnecessary and tragic shootings by police.

You forgot to differentiate between LEGAL and ILLEGAL gun owners...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MidWestIA

surgeons lose millions in malpractice law suits and get uncertified as doctors

Insurance companies lose millions...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jammaiora

I have read all of the responses and agreed with maybe three points of realistic views. The remainder smack of racism. Kim Potter showed how she was incompetent to be a police officer. She was an instructor for new recruits and stated at trial that the original officers should have never stopped the car for a minor violation (they were told not to stop cars because of the possible exposure to covid). Brown and black people are stopped all the time because of racist cops and fear for their lives because of trigger happy police. That is probably why he tried to flee. If you think she should go free, then I feel Rittenhouse should be in jail for life! Someone said police are not paid enough, which is not true. Police are paid plenty and can retire at full retirement at 20 years, not to mention that they have civil immunity for their actions. There are some good police personnel but they are in the minority. Too many of the bad ones came out of the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars - macho trigger happy "warriors".

The average salary in Minneapolis is about $60K... Not exactly "plenty"...

And to compare this case to the Rittenhouse case is folly. Apples and Kumquats...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Jokomo

I’m glad you weren’t on the jury since it appears you’ve made up your mind without hearing the evidence presented to the jury.

As did all of the people commenting on this thread...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

"Be killed" he was trying to run away, not kill her. They knew him, they knew where he lived. They could have just gone to his house and arrested him. Instead they pull him over and get all aggressive and scare him half to death, then he tries to run..... this was hardly a kill or be killed situation.

You missed the part about the other officer being partially inside the car when they tried to drive away...

And just let him go and then show up at his house? Sure, go to a place where they have no idea who's there, if they're armed, if they're walking into an ambush... No thanks...

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

"Be killed" he was trying to run away, not kill her. They knew him, they knew where he lived. They could have just gone to his house and arrested him. Instead they pull him over and get all aggressive and scare him half to death, then he tries to run..... this was hardly a kill or be killed situation.

Thanks for clearing this up since it sounds like you were there and knew for a "fact" that he wasn't going for a weapon.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Thanks for clearing this up since it sounds like you were there and knew for a "fact" that he wasn't going for a weapon.

Or hit/drag the officer who was trying to cuff him...