[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Irishmen

Tell it to over 300k people now with major side affects healthy until taken the jab. VAERS was shut down so many are reporting terrible side affects. Over 30k deaths now to say the jab is safe is propaganda.

Which "alternate facts" website did you get that info from? I have the VAERS reporting form on the other tab in my browser right now. It's up, running, and just fine.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Irishmen

The death toll is incredible. All the dead bodies in the street all the dead bodies falling out. They're stacked outside of hospitals 20 deep. I heard 5 million died yesterday. Morge refrigerator trucks lined around the block outside hospitals. Military Mercy ships filled to the top dead bodies everywhere. Photos of dead bodies stacked in pickup trucks no more room in the cemeteries. Dead everywhere. Hospitals so full they are dong emergency operations on the rooftop so many dead everywhere. Dead bodies on the square waiting for days to be picked up there is no more room to store. Have to crawl over dead bodies just to get to mailbox. I saw 2 bodies laying in a sand trap dead bodies everywhere.

I'm sure this is "tongue in cheek" but I do not appreciate the rhetoric. Reported!

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Funny how some of those of you hysterical types disparage and demean those that have not been vaccinated, thinking that they will see "your way" and run out and get their shots.
For your information, and NOT to get political but those not getting vaccinated are NOT thinking politics at all. Most are either young folks, minorities or children. Almost half the country has been vaccinated, with at least one shot. Calm down and hold off on the hysteria.
Last month was the lowest DEATH rate attributed to Covid related deaths in a year and almost two. Isn't that great? Yes, the infection rate has spiked. And yes, it seems that they are reporting in influx of Covid related patients in the hospitals. Don't you get it? If the death rate is down, that's a good thing.
Take your cruises. If you have your vaccination, you have nothing to worry about, right? Or, don't you have confidence in the very vaccine that you are attempting to shove down everyone else's proverbial throats?
I have family coming down to visit this month. None of them have had their vaccination for Covid. All of the ones coming down to visit have had Covid. I am not going to encourage them to get the shots because that is a personal choice and I don't want to be responsible for any future side effects that may haunt them in years to come. They did not die and none of them were hospitalized. They are mostly in good health. I'm not worried, so why should it be anyone else's business if they are vaccinated or not?
Covid is here and it is an illness. The world has a record of illnesses that have been fatal. We have survived them all. I see no reason for mass hysteria, whether you feel justified being rattled or not.
Do what you have to do to stay safe and leave other folks to make their own decisions. Death will eventually catch up to all of you. Think of it as the ultimate life experience.

EXCELLENT post! I feel the same way.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

Lol...I can't believe the bs that just came pouring from your mouth.

First....what is a proverbial throat?? Never heard that before.

Second...where,generally, do you live? So next week when you and the rest of the buffoons visit all of TV can stay as far away as possible.

Third....dont you keep up with any news...whats so ever? There has been story after story where an unvaxed spouse, child whatever has come down with Delta,, now dying or died and the last words before the ventilator was..."I should have gotten that shot"

Wake up!

Kinda hard to understand why this post was not deleted. ^^^

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The vaccine is a PROVEN lifesaver. I will now prove it for all who read on to the next sentence!

97% of ALL medical Doctors in the US have gotten their CV shots. That fact is un-refutable!

Please provide proof

[Normal]

Why bother with proof of vaccine? It’s your risk, not anyone else’s. If you have the vaccine you can spread the virus. Um, if you haven’t been vaccinated, you can spread it. What good is proof?

Proof of vaccine is the dumbest idea ever! Seriously, who ever came up with such lunacy?

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Normal

Why bother with proof of vaccine? It’s your risk, not anyone else’s. If you have the vaccine you can spread the virus. Um, if you haven’t been vaccinated, you can spread it. What good is proof?

Proof of vaccine is the dumbest idea ever! Seriously, who ever came up with such lunacy?

Good point!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The vaccine is a PROVEN lifesaver. I will now prove it for all who read on to the next sentence!

97% of ALL medical Doctors in the US have gotten their CV shots. That fact is un-refutable!

And only 50% of nurses and hospital aids have taken the vaccine...

What's you point?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Irishmen

Tell it to over 300k people now with major side affects healthy until taken the jab. VAERS was shut down so many are reporting terrible side affects. Over 30k deaths now to say the jab is safe is propaganda.

The fact is irrefutable - 97% of ALL medical Doctors have taken their CV vaccines.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Normal

Why bother with proof of vaccine? It’s your risk, not anyone else’s. If you have the vaccine you can spread the virus. Um, if you haven’t been vaccinated, you can spread it. What good is proof?

Proof of vaccine is the dumbest idea ever! Seriously, who ever came up with such lunacy?

EDIT: It appears I seriously misunderstood the comment above. Though this doesn't apply, it is still true so I'll leave it. A more appropriate answer is farther below.

What good is proof? Good question. For someone who is willing to see the proof, it can save a life. For someone who willfully ignores the proof, then of course it is no good at all.

The proof of the safety and effectiveness of the vaccine is in all the data-based reporting, all you have to do is stop trying so hard not to see it.

EDIT: The more appropriate answer

Proof of vaccine will have three effects. 1. It will help protect those who truly cannot be vaccinated. 2. It will encourage those who can be vaccinated to do so now. 3. It will ease the stress on the healthcare system.

1. By keeping unvaccinated (potential carriers) away, those who truly cannot be vaccinated are better protected from the virus. Yes, we have been told there is a possibility that a vaccinated individual can be contagious but this has not yet been proven and in any case it would be rare. The intentionally unvaccinated are a risk that can be avoided with proof of vaccine.

2. The carrots that have been tried so far have been insufficient to overcome the willful ignorance of the deniers, perhaps a stick might work better.

3. Proof of vaccination should limit the gatherings of unvaccinated and slow the spread of the virus. Hospitals are filling again due to the unvaccinated which makes things more dangerous for those that might need to go there. Limiting the gatherings, slowing the spread, and easing the strain on hospitals will free up healthcare resources.

Who thought of proof of vaccine? It's been around for at least 50 years it just hasn't been applied to Covid-19 .... yet.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Please provide proof

Please look it up with your Google machine.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The fact is irrefutable - 97% of ALL medical Doctors have taken their CV vaccines.

As long as we're repeating ourselves...

Only 50% of nurses and hospital aids have taken their CV vaccines...

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Normal

Why bother with proof of vaccine? It’s your risk, not anyone else’s. If you have the vaccine you can spread the virus. Um, if you haven’t been vaccinated, you can spread it. What good is proof?

Proof of vaccine is the dumbest idea ever! Seriously, who ever came up with such lunacy?

The French Government and most of its citizens want proof of vaccines. And so did ALL of the primary schools that we attended. The INCREASED trend toward vaccine aversion is a fairly recent phenomenon. It started in serious numbers about 4 or 5 years ago with the ...................

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

As long as we're repeating ourselves...

Only 50% of nurses and hospital aids have taken their CV vaccines...

The IS true. And the reason IS that compared to Doctors, many nurses and aids are less sophisticated, less educated, and have less experience - to generalize. Therefore, much like the general population, the nurses and aids can be more easily influenced than Doctors by the softcore propaganda that IS available on Facebook, dark media, and the Laura and Tuckkums Comedy Hour. And, apparently, that 50% statistic is old and more like 70% due to the NEW awareness of and fear for the Delta variant that is causing a run toward the vaccines and testing. Americans ALWAYS do the RIGHT thing - after exhausting ALL other possibilities!

[roscoguy]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

But, how many crossed and didn’t get caught? NOBODY knows that NUMBER.

You're right, of course. Neither I nor anyone else can answer that question. I'm still gonna object when I see misquoted or out-of-context statistics thrown about, which is exactly what the claim of 188k immigrants 'crossing the border is.