[Lindsyburnsy]

Not only do we not need a new flag, it’s time to get rid of the blue stripe, red stripe and the face of anybody, super imposed on it. Talk about disrespecting the flag.

QUOTE=Taltarzac725;1962427]Macy Gray made a suggestion that we need a new US flag. No way in #$@^ do we need a new flag. New people waving it maybe. Macy Gray Wants The U.S. Flag To Be Redesigned In Honor Of Juneteenth - YouTube

She is a great singer but once in a while a celebrity goes way too far.

Macy Gray - I Try (Official Video) - YouTube[/QUOTE]

[walterray1]

Originally Posted by bobm3

I think this is one of the most amusing threads I’ve read in quite a while.

First of all, no one should expect entertainers to be any different than the average person, other than they have a pulpit. It’s silly to get upset when they say something that is dumb, insulting, etc. Life’s too short. Just throw away your concert shirt.

Secondly, I don’t have allegiance to a piece of cloth, just like my Jewish friend. I have allegiance to my country. When I was raised Catholic, we were taught that we didn’t pray to icons, we prayed to what they represent. It’s really tragic if someone dyed for a piece of cloth.


Next, it is especially amusing to read comments saying posters who say the flag has changed (other than stars) don’t know their history. At first, a stripe was added with admission of a new state. In 1818, the flag went back to 13 stripes. Who doesn’t know their history?

Here’s my idea: change the stars. We are not an all-white country. If there are 16% brown people in the population, we should have 8 brown stars. Perhaps 2 yellow, at least 1 red, no matter the % indigenous population. If 10% of the population is LGBT, have 5 stars that show a rainbow.

Dyed? Multi colored stars? Too much red or blue for you as well? Rainbow? Please.

[Maryland Girl]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I'm not sure why it's so offensive that anyone would be interested in changing the flag of our country. The current flag isn't the original either. It was changed from the one before it. Which was changed from the one before it. In fact, the ONLY one that was the actual "Star Spangled Banner" only had 15 stars on it. The current flag is NOT the Star Spangled Banner. So y'all are putting your hand over your hearts to worship the wrong flag when you sing the song.

The flag changes when new states are added to the country, with new stars to reflect the addition. There were two "first" American Flags: the "Betsy Ross" flag, and then the official 13-star flag. The Star Spangle Banner was a 15-star flag representing the USA from 1795-1818.

If you're not okay with someone even bringing up the notion of changing the flag, then you're not okay with the whole point of the USA - which is to enact change. If you're not okay with change, go live in a country where change isn't allowed. I hear Saudi Arabia is lovely this time of year.

So completely predictable.

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by Justus

Why is it that as soon as they have one scintilla of fame, these "celebrities" think they have something to contribute that anyone wants to hear. She can kiss my royal ***. If she doesn't like our nation's flag, I'm sure she could find a country whose flag is more suitable to her taste! Thanks for the heads-up. I wouldn't buy one of her albums if my life depended on it! Enough is enough!

She's not a new celeb, she's been around over 20 yrs. It's not the worse idea...our current gov't certainly has suggested worse..ie: new voting rules. Don't be so quick to judge...or poo- poo the idea.

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

Who does this stupid Bimbo think fought the Confederacy to end slavery? It was the Union Army and it cost over 600,000 Union deaths to achieve freedom for the slaves. Hey dumb Bimbo, what flag did they carry into battle? Hint, it wasn't the Stars and Bars.

Wow! Arnt you a nice person. You sound like a typical old f#$t with onset dementia. You could of said that all so differently. Js

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by Beyond The Wall

Just shut up and sing.

How about this...you just shut up

[BlackhawksFan]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Macy Gray made a suggestion that we need a new US flag. No way in #$@^ do we need a new flag. New people waving it maybe. Macy Gray Wants The U.S. Flag To Be Redesigned In Honor Of Juneteenth - YouTube

She is a great singer but once in a while a celebrity goes way too far.

Macy Gray - I Try (Official Video) - YouTube

To me the flag is the flag. It represents the United States and all that is good and bad about us. The flag doesn't get changed because we now celebrate a new holiday. It doesn't get changed because we celebrate Pride month or any other group or ideaology. The flag, as it stands, represents us all regardless of color, race, creed, orientation, gender, etc.

I can understand how people may look at the flag and see different things. A Black person may see oppression while a new immigrant may see freedom. It's what makes us our country.

Do things need to change? Yes they do but it doesn't start with the flag. Lets work together to make meaningful change then the flag will become what you want it to be.

"Liberty and justice for all" just shouldn't be a tag line in the pledge it should mean something for everyone who chooses to live here.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

Wow! Arnt you a nice person. You sound like a typical old f#$t with onset dementia. You could of said that all so differently. Js

I give respect when it is earned and justified, this bimbo deserves no respect and my statement is appropriate. I am a very nice person when I'm treated nicely, but when someone spreads malice I am under no obligation to show respect or to be nice. Aren't you a delicate snow flake.

[LateBoomer]

Sadly, this type of liberal douchbaggery is a daily occurrence

[Taltarzac725]

https://macygrayofficial.com/

I do like her music though.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

Wow! Arnt you a nice person. You sound like a typical old f#$t with onset dementia. You could of said that all so differently. Js

There goes this one's projecting, again.

[BlackhawksFan]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Yup. I see a lot of people make a HUGE to-do about how they're showing their patriotism by displaying their flag.

And they display it wrong. On various holidays (flag day, patriot day, independence day, veteran's day, memorial day) they stick flags into the ground near the edge of their driveway, and stick them so deep that the flags touch the ground.

Or they don't bother changing them and they're torn and faded on their flagpoles for months (pro-tip, snowbirds - take your flag down if you know you won't be there to change it if it gets torn for several months). Or they keep the flag raised 24/7 without illuminating it at night.

The hypocrisy is what makes me cringe. They're the same ones who, if you point it out to them that their flag is torn, will tell you to mind your own business.

So screw'em. Do what you want with the flag. Most people around here don't show it the respect they insist it deserves. They're the ones you should be railing against. Not someone who just wants an upgrade on an old design - or someone like me, who thinks it's silly to respect, revere, or honor an inanimate object.

Or wear it as clothing. Also against the Flag Code.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

Who does this stupid Bimbo think fought the Confederacy to end slavery? It was the Union Army and it cost over 600,000 Union deaths to achieve freedom for the slaves. Hey dumb Bimbo, what flag did they carry into battle? Hint, it wasn't the Stars and Bars.

Can’t hv a conversation without name calling. The former guy was big on that childishness.

[Lindsyburnsy]

The end of slavery is a pretty huge event. Just sayin’.

Originally Posted by DAVES

We have a movement in this country to rewrite history. Juneteeth to me insanity. Imagine a Federal holiday for every historical event for every race creed, religion.
No one would or ever could WORK. We would need to add extra days to the 365 day year to avoid running out of holidays. It not only seems insane, it is insane.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

Can’t hv a conversation without name calling. The former guy was big on that childishness.

I call them as I see them. Stupid entitled people deserve no respect. If it is childish behavior why are you calling people childish? Sounds like name calling to me.