[Windguy]

We had mail-in ballots in CO. Every registered voter got one without asking. It was so much easier to vote in your living room while reading the issues pamphlet. I never once heard any complaints about voter fraud.

[Cheapbas]

When Michigan sent out “applications” for a mail in ballot, they were checking the signatures on the Returned envelope to the ones on file with the original voter registration. So, Where’s the room for fraud? This is what banks have been using to dispense cash in your account for a hundred years.

[wiltma]

That is the case in Florida

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Cheapbas

When Michigan sent out “applications” for a mail in ballot, they were checking the signatures on the Returned envelope to the ones on file with the original voter registration. So, Where’s the room for fraud? This is what banks have been using to dispense cash in your account for a hundred years.

Banks only require a signature on paper checks and they don't even look at them. But, most withdrawals are made using a credit card, debit card, or ATM machine. A signature is almost never required. Did Michigan arrest and prosecute the people who forged signatures on ballots?

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Marvic 1

My post keeps getting deleted by the Admin regarding my input into FRAUD with paper voting so I have to keep it satisfactory to their liking level....
So all I can say is no truth to YOUR OPINION on mail fraud, there are plenty of video explaining fraud by both sides of the aisle...
What right do we have at this time to test and conduct a National Election for President of the United States with a procedure that have not been proven to be reliable. Maybe later next year test this action of voting on a local level election before moving onto bigger national things..

I certainly am not looking for "video". You can perform a search on YouTube and get a video on any subject under the moon. If fraud has been so prevelant, there has to be reams of documentation, prosecution and the like in court records.

This mail in system is not new....was not simply invented recently. Millions of illegal immigrants did not vote or get ballots in the last election. Fraud is not rampant, or even close.

No test required...this system works and is proven safe.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by Cheapbas

When Michigan sent out “applications” for a mail in ballot, they were checking the signatures on the Returned envelope to the ones on file with the original voter registration. So, Where’s the room for fraud? This is what banks have been using to dispense cash in your account for a hundred years.

I emphasized "mass mail in voting". Not traditional absentee voting in which fraud is much more difficult due to the limited number of times it is used. And signature verification for millions of votes is a problematic for obvious reasons. It is no substitute for ID verification. It also does not stop ballot harvesting, vote buying, voter intimidation, duplicate voting and so on.

Shouldn't every vote count? If so that means ensuring the integrity of the process. Voter rolls are notoriously infected with dead voters, people who have moved and so on. There are many instances where the number of people registered greatly exceed the number of eligible voters. So that means umpteen thousands of invalid ballots will be sent out in many congressional districts. And many will go to the wrong address.

Is it too much to ask for people who are able to show up once or twice a year at a local polling place to ensure that every valid vote counts? The answer is yes if you want to facilitate fraudulent elections.

It is a simple concept. The easier it is to cheat and get away with it, the more tainted elections we will have. Especially in these times where the principle of "ends justifies the means" is embraced by an increasingly radicalized Democratic Party.

In Orange County – once seen as a Republican stronghold in the state– every House seat went to a Democrat after an unprecedented “250,000” vote-by-mail drop-offs were counted, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

“People were carrying in stacks of 100 and 200 of them. We had had multiple people calling to ask if these people were allowed to do this,” Kelley said.

[Earlride]

Mail in voting has been one disaster after another. The latest California debacle is just the latest.

[rrlavigne]

Fact's are, mail in voting has always been there, it's part of the system. And right now where a lot of people are rightfully afraid to be around others it's an important tool to our democracy. And voter suppression is very real and in full force here!

[FredJacobs]

Many of you may not be old enough to remember when all Social Security checks were sent by mail. Checks for the entire nation were all mailed on the same day every month (I believe it was the last day of the month). A few days later, mail boxes were broken into so that thieves could steal and cash the checks.

I feel that if a mass mailing to every one in a state is sent a ballot, many will be stolen, filled out by cheats, fraudulently signed and submitted. I do believe that a ballot will only be sent to registered voters, but I do not believe that someone will check the authenticity of the signature on every single mail-in ballot. If so, it would takes weeks before a winner is determined.

What happens when I recognize that I haven't received my ballot? Do I call the Election Commissioner and complain? They may tell me that it was delayed in the mail, wait a few days. Or, depending on whether or not they record ballots received when they come in (they would have to open the ballots to do so) they may say, "You voted already, we received it." Depending on my age and my memory I may accept that. What if I tell them that I haven't voted, will they send me a duplicate ballot?

In the words of Yul Brynner as the King of Siam, "et cetera, et cetera and so forth!" There are many opportunities for fraud. Why take a chance. I don't want to disparage anyone or any place but remember the slogan - Vote Early, Vote Often.

[Andyb]

Mail in ballots will create fraud a an unbelievable rate, already proven, dozens of cases already. Need voter ID too.

[soniak4@gmail.com]

GoPacers, you are spot on!! There would be very little need for mail-in voting, as there has been in the past, if people were guaranteed an opportunity to vote in person without having to travel for hours to a polling facility because the one most convenient for them has been closed, specifically to suppress the vote!! I have witnessed that in my voting history and it was more than evident in the 2018 election. Every citizen in this country, unless regulated by law, has the right to vote and access to a process to vote that is fair, convenient and easy. To make any change to that, must be unlawful. Unfortunately, today’s politicians find that it is necessary to manipulate processes and systems to ensure they win. I hate what has happened and continues to happen to our country.

[Cheapbas]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Banks only require a signature on paper checks and they don't even look at them. But, most withdrawals are made using a credit card, debit card, or ATM machine. A signature is almost never required. Did Michigan arrest and prosecute the people who forged signatures on ballots?

You are completely missing my point. We are not talking about debit cards, we are talking about a long time proven practice of matching signatures to validate a document. And yes the banks DO CHECK signatures.

[LSTOWELL]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

I am not against mail in ballots. However, I think that there should be a requirement that they should be requested. That way a need is expressed, a current address is provided, and an opportunity to insure that the requester is properly registered can be verified.

Simply mailing to everybody creates an needless opportunity for confusion and abuse.

From the beginning of this country, voting has been a right that must be personally performed. Choosing not to vote is your decision. A vote should be private. Nobody should know my vote. All votes should be collected by the vote deadline. Votes delivered after the vote deadline should be nullified. Otherwise my vote is essentially known.

You have to request one.. application to request one is what is mailed out..voted like this in Florida 14 years..

[PhillyJC]

Original poster thank you for the most thoughtful post I have ever read in this site!

[guppyvii]

I was registered in Leon county Florida and voted by mail while working abroad for the DOD. My ballot came addressed to me by name, I had to sign my ballot and it stated the signature had to match my voters registration card on file. Once sealed I had to sign again across the flap. Then I could track my vote online a see when it was received and counted. That’s a lot of steps to prevent fraud IMHO. I felt confident in the system.