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Old 08-17-2020, 07:37 PM
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From the Florida Department of State website:



Vote-by-Mail - Division of Elections - Florida Department of State

No idea where you got your information but that's from the state government website, as linked above.

The Connecticut absentee ballot application must be RECEIVED by November 2. And, if you wait that long, you might not get your ballot in time and you'd have to either vote in person or forfeit your vote. Ballot requests are available October 2, so you have plenty of time to submit the request. If you need an emergency ballot up to 6 days before the election there's a whole separate form for it.

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I was responding to your statement that said that all requests for Absentee ballots must be submitted 10 days in advance. My assumption was that you were referring to all requests in the USA. When I fact checked it, I found that in Florida a request for absentee ballot by mail is required 10 days early, but , you can get an absentee ballot in person , the day before in Florida.

My point is that in Connecticut they say you can request the ballot by mail by Nov 2. And you have to submit it by Nov 3. Obviously you can ask earlier, but for a state to have a deadline for a mail in request, shows that they are not ready for the election or simply do not understand that mail delivery takes time.

For your information, I am providing a website where you can get information for elections in all US voting areas. Cannot vouch for the accuracy, but shows that 10 days is not universal.

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absentee voting application Florida - Bing
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Old 08-17-2020, 09:30 PM
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For your information, I am providing a website where you can get information for elections in all US voting areas. Cannot vouch for the accuracy, but shows that 10 days is not universal.

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absentee voting application Florida - Bing
Your link is to a search results page from Bing.

1. I don't use Bing, and don't click on links to Bing search results.
2. It's a search result which means - it's a listing of every website that Bing found containing the words "absentee voting application Florida." It's not a link to a singular website.

I know 10 days isn't universal, however it's not uncommon in this country. Connecticut is a weird one for sure. But we're not in Connecticut. And most people who vote by mail would request their ballot LONG before that 10-day period, even if they were allowed to request it the day before. Absentee voters tend to be pretty savvy about that kind of thing
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Old 08-17-2020, 09:33 PM
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Vote by mail or absentee ballots are used by nursing home residents without cars, by Americans who must work out of town on Election Day, by many traveling retirees. I used it when I was healing from surgery, and found I qualified later to continue voting by mail. It was very convenient, legal and monitored. President Trump has requested to vote by mail this November also. It is a safe and well tested system that has been around for decades.
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Vote by mail or absentee ballots are used by nursing home residents without cars, by Americans who must work out of town on Election Day, by many traveling retirees. I used it when I was healing from surgery, and found I qualified later to continue voting by mail. It was very convenient, legal and monitored. President Trump has requested to vote by mail this November also. It is a safe and well tested system that has been around for decades.
Not decades. It's been around since the Civil War, in 1864. So that'd be - for 156 years.
Florida had officially become a state only 20 years prior.
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Old 08-18-2020, 04:46 AM
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Your link is to a search results page from Bing.

1. I don't use Bing, and don't click on links to Bing search results.
2. It's a search result which means - it's a listing of every website that Bing found containing the words "absentee voting application Florida." It's not a link to a singular website.

I know 10 days isn't universal, however it's not uncommon in this country. Connecticut is a weird one for sure. But we're not in Connecticut. And most people who vote by mail would request their ballot LONG before that 10-day period, even if they were allowed to request it the day before. Absentee voters tend to be pretty savvy about that kind of thing
Even the dead ones?????
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Old 08-18-2020, 05:10 AM
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Absentee Ballots are controlled

Mass mailings of Mail in ballots are for stealing elections. There are no controls no safe guards, No chain of custody to ensure that ONLY every qualified voter gets only one vote

Voter nullification is when one honest vote

Is nullified by 5,000 fictitious random mail-in votes
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Old 08-18-2020, 05:20 AM
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How does the post office know? Answer: They dont. It depends on the state and even county actually in most jurisdictions.on how their system works.
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Old 08-18-2020, 05:33 AM
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Mail in ballots are voters that also need to register. Not these mass mailings. It’s third world BS .
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Old 08-18-2020, 05:40 AM
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I don't think anyone in their right mind would be concerned with mail in voting except for timing issues, received on time. However, if anyone is proposing mass mailings to all residents that are not registered voters, then everyone should have a problem.

Right now you must request an absentee ballot. It is checked and confirmed that you are a registered voter and mailed to you where you requested. Then you must return the ballot within a certain time limit or your vote is not counted.

That's fine! But, having the post office mail by reduced price mass mailing to everyone is ridiculous! If you cannot take the time to register to vote by mail, car registration at any county office then you don't deserve to vote. Voting is an obligation of every citizen but not every one in the county is a citizen and they certainly do not have the right to vote.
I could be wrong, but I think the issue is with states that send out ballots to everyone on their voter registration rolls, whether they as for them/register or not. Can you imagine the number of people on the rolls who are either deceased r no longer live in the state, etc? The way Florida does it seems to be working well.
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Old 08-18-2020, 05:52 AM
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If it is checked it is minimal, or very liberal lee-way is given to the signature.
Also, an "X" counts as a legal signature.
Only if that’s what you used for a signature when you registered.
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Old 08-18-2020, 06:23 AM
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Because at least in Florida, THERE IS NO UNSOLICITED BALLOTS.

It's not a thing, here.

No one is getting an actual ballot, unless they have actually requested one.

What is being unsolicited is a "request for ballot" form. Registered voters are getting them in the mail. You STILL can't vote by mail if you get one of these forms. You have to physically fill it out, and physically return that form to the Supervisor of Elections, and you have to wait for them to verify it and then mail you the physical ballot. And THEN you can fill that in and mail it in.

YOU have to ask THEM for the ballot. There are two things going on here:

Request for Ballot Form

and

Ballot.

The former is being sent to registered voters, unsolicited.
The latter MUST be requested from the voter, using that form.

You summed it up well - that’s how it works in MA.

No problems with that. Standing in a long line on polling day does not make any sense whatsoever in today’s environment.

Give people the option. It’s not rocket science.
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Old 08-18-2020, 06:27 AM
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I see nothing “ridiculous “ about making it easy to exercise your voting franchise. You make think someone should have to request something that is their right, but I don’t think you should have to make any extra effort to vote. Instead of making voting more difficult, what’s the problem with making voting as easy possible?
The “problem” is that there are many people, and ewe know who they are, that don’t believe everyone should be able to vote and try their best to make voting difficult. They talk about “voter fraud”, for example, when it doesn’t exist to even be a statistic. They make thousands and thousands of people, as seen in Georgia, vote at a single spot with impossibly long lines while more affluent White areas have plenty of voting sites that have no lines or minimum wait.
As Joseph Goebbels said, if you repeat a big lie long enough, people will start to believe it. We see that teaching being practiced today.
Everyone should be able to vote with the least effort possible. The only people against doing that are those who don’t want everyone to vote.
Another thing that should be eliminated is the Electoral College. It’s a remnant of slavery that was used to count each slave as 3/5ths of a person for counting votes to elect a President. No other elected office in the country allows a person who gets less votes get elected! If it wasn’t in the Constitution, it’d be unconstitutional because it violates the equal protection clause. Your vote carries more or less weight depending on where you live...talk about ridiculous! That’s why you never see a Presidential candidate campaign in Alabama or the most populous state, California. Instead they only appear in states like Florida, Ohio, etc. There shouldn’t be “battleground” states, only states with voters whose votes count the same as everyone else, not mattering where they live. Why should a Republican’s vote in New York be meaningless or a Democrat’s be the same in Alabama?
The Electoral College has no place in America and disenfranchises millions of Americans, It has no valid reason to exist today because slavery ended a long time ago. If you believe in democracy, and many of you don’t, you should rise up and have the stain of the Electoral College placed into the ash heap of history where it belongs.
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Old 08-18-2020, 06:34 AM
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The post office does not/will not mail ballots to everyone. They will mail to registered voters only! If you are not registered to vote you will not receive a ballot. In Florida you have to request a ballot be sent to you
The post office doesn’t mail ANYTHING except, occasionally news about the postal service. Ballots are sent by A completely different government entity. The post office only DELIVERS what is sent to them to deliver.
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Old 08-18-2020, 06:41 AM
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I have already heard from people I know that mail in ballots have been sent to dead people, that people that have moved out of state, or just moved towns. Those ballots are now sitting around waiting from someone to fill out and send in. Don't think that is very safe.
Although the proponents state that you must reqest your vote by mail ballot, the return envelop states that you can check the box to CONTINUE TO VOTE BY MAIL. (Caps for emphasis) So how long after death will that continue?
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Old 08-18-2020, 06:55 AM
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I don't think anyone in their right mind would be concerned with mail in voting except for timing issues, received on time. However, if anyone is proposing mass mailings to all residents that are not registered voters, then everyone should have a problem.

Right now you must request an absentee ballot. It is checked and confirmed that you are a registered voter and mailed to you where you requested. Then you must return the ballot within a certain time limit or your vote is not counted.

That's fine! But, having the post office mail by reduced price mass mailing to everyone is ridiculous! If you cannot take the time to register to vote by mail, car registration at any county office then you don't deserve to vote. Voting is an obligation of every citizen but not every one in the county is a citizen and they certainly do not have the right to vote.
So you are saying anyone with a different opinion is not in their right mind?
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