[KRM0614]

It’s not an obligation.

[DeanFL]

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it's like this...

Universal Mail-in voting is like 'Cremation Society' doing a mail-out of all registered 'The Villages' addresses.

Absentee voting is like 'Cremation Society' ONLY mailing to those who request the information.

The 'Universal' recipients could already be dead and buried, moved to nursing homes, new owners, young & healthy with no reason to die, pass the mailing on to somebody else, you get the idea.

The 'Absentee' recipients asked for the mailing, are confirmed to be on the rolls, and a high % to take action.

It's Passive vs Active. comprende'???
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[LG999]

Personally, I think if it’s too inconvenient for a person to show up in person, they are just not that interested & may not even know the issues or ppl running for office. Absentee voting is fine; its something you care enough to plan for. The pandemic is just a convenient excuse for fraud bcs we are able to protect ourselves adequately when we go out for all other errands and tasks large & small.

[Stormylc]

Mail in ballots begins with mail going to everyone on the “active voter” list. The problem is w the list. Judicial Watch completed a painstaking investigation in LA County and discovered more Registered Voters than their were voter age citizens.California was taken to court by Judicial Watch and they agreed to clean up their voter rolls by REMOVING 1.6 MILLION names of people Judicial showed were either deceased, or had moved from the state.Unfortunately, the courts gave California until January 2022 to clean the list. that means that 1.6 MILLION names that should not receive ballots will have ballots sent to them in the mail. Judicial is now completing investigations of voter rolls in 2 other states, where preliminary scans indicate hundreds of thousands of folks on lists are dead or have moved. In many states that claim mail in votes from mass mailings to registered voters are fine without problems, the problem is that independent investigations have not and will not be conducted. Judicial Watch haslimited funding and is a non-profit dependent on donations. I am a proud contributor to JW.

[Kilmacowen]

Once again, absentee and mail in both require a request. I received my request and mailed it back for authorization. Then I will be mailed a ballot. SAME as absentee.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Absentee ballots are available only until 10 days before election day. After that, you can't get them at all.

The original statement regarding not being able to get an absentee ballot after the 10 day reference is not correct. In Florida, you can get a ballot (in person) up to 1 day before election. That might be important to someone who has a need develop within that additional time period.

Voters should check their registered home states voting requirement because there may be considerable difference from Florida. Certainly, don't go by what we posters say.

[Byte1]

Almost ALL voting is technically illegal. The Constitution mandates that ONLY American citizens be allowed to vote in national elections. Kind of hard to have a legal election if you are not requiring a proof of citizenship. Are they supposed to take your word for it that you are a citizen? The honor systems? Don't tell me that they check your citizenship when you register, because I have NEVER had to prove my citizenship. They just asked me to check the box saying that I am a citizen.
In order to vote one should have to provide proof of citizenship in some form or another, PERIOD. If that supposedly "disenfranchises" some, too friggin' bad, get over it. There is no excuse today that anyone living in this great country cannot obtain some form of identification. Anyone telling you different is a liar. And this pandemic is no reason for some to think they can get away with manipulating or cheating in the voting of this election. If you have left you home for any reason in the last six months, then you can put on a mask and gloves and vote. In Florida as well as many other states, we have early voting. I have never had to stand in line more than a few minutes, if at all. There is plenty of safe space in the actual voting area, and always has been. The room is always large and folks are always asked to wait well back from one another when processing their ballots.

Forcing someone to vote is not an option. Some folks should not vote, period. They have no idea who is running for office or they do not even care. Mandating voting is not American. Many folks are so ignorant that they base their vote on race or gender, knowing nothing of important details like policies or record.

Mandate voter ID that requires verification by citizenship. Vote in person if you are able. Absentee voting is an option and should only be done by personal ballot request, not by mass mailing of ballots.

[DeanFL]

Originally Posted by Kilmacowen

Once again, absentee and mail in both require a request. I received my request and mailed it back for authorization. Then I will be mailed a ballot. SAME as absentee.

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NOPE - In MANY states, it's PASSIVE.

Nine states and the District of Columbia so far plan to hold universal mail-in elections – in which ballots are automatically mailed to all registered voters without needing to first request one. And with early mail-voting set to begin as early as September in some states, election experts say it's unlikely many more states would have time to make that switch.
Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah, Washington were the only universal vote-by-mail states before the pandemic. California, Nevada, Vermont and New Jersey have since signed on for the November election. In addition, Montana, North Dakota and Nebraska allow individual counties to decide whether to mail ballots to all registered voters.

In Florida - NOT UNIVERSAL. Voters must REQUEST vote-by-mail. I did and works for me. BUT - after I vote, I will bring the completed ballot to a county office (not sure which one for now) to MAKE SURE my vote counts - no mail for me...
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Oh, I also firmly believe that NO VOTING should occur BEFORE applicable debates. It's only FAIR for ALL Parties. And the voters/constituents.
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[mrf6969]

Originally Posted by Bill1701

Yes, and possibly wait in line for hours to do so because there will not be enough workers to man the voting places. I have used mail-in voting for years and there was never a problem. Some states use only mail-in voting.

We have lived in The Villages for 15 years now. Never ever have we been in a long line to vote. If most would use early voting then it is super easy to get out and vote with no hassle. Get out of the house and vote. It will feel good.

[sallybowron]

Originally Posted by mamamia54

Mail in voting will be a disaster. I see no reason why responsible people just can’t go vote. Wear a mask, social distance and sanitize. If you can go shop in Publix or any other store, than you can go vote.

Your reply mamamia shows me that you have a limited over vision of TV. Many people her can no longer go to Publix to shope. Someone shops for them. I finds your remark about "responsible people" going out to vote. Maybe it is time to get your head out of the "Bubble" in which you live and look around and see the numbers of elderly people who still live in TV but would never have been able to stand in line to vote.
I have recently been confined to a wheelchair, and I would never be able to stand in line to vote.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Tom2172

Absentee Ballots are controlled

Mass mailings of Mail in ballots are for stealing elections. There are no controls no safe guards, No chain of custody to ensure that ONLY every qualified voter gets only one vote

Voter nullification is when one honest vote

Is nullified by 5,000 fictitious random mail-in votes

Mass mailings of mail-in ballots are not a thing. They are going ONLY to registered voters. Fictitious random mail-in votes would be discounted. They are caught, and discounted, and whoever submits them is prosecuted. It's a waste of time, but it doesn't change the final result.

Look into actual historical precedence. What you suggest is a concern, is not a concern, because it has never happened, and mail-in voting has existed in one form or another since the Civil War.

[17362]

Originally Posted by bobnyce

I don't think anyone in their right mind would be concerned with mail in voting except for timing issues, received on time. However, if anyone is proposing mass mailings to all residents that are not registered voters, then everyone should have a problem.

Right now you must request an absentee ballot. It is checked and confirmed that you are a registered voter and mailed to you where you requested. Then you must return the ballot within a certain time limit or your vote is not counted.

That's fine! But, having the post office mail by reduced price mass mailing to everyone is ridiculous! If you cannot take the time to register to vote by mail, car registration at any county office then you don't deserve to vote. Voting is an obligation of every citizen but not every one in the county is a citizen and they certainly do not have the right to vote.

Not every state does mail in like Florida.
I came from a state that mailed them without consent. And in fact, my father in law and mother in law died there last year. Guess what they got in the mail THIS year? Yup. Their ballots. This is why there is a problem. And that is only the beginning of THAT system in place.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Mohawksin

Although the proponents state that you must reqest your vote by mail ballot, the return envelop states that you can check the box to CONTINUE TO VOTE BY MAIL. (Caps for emphasis) So how long after death will that continue?

For the next two elections.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by noslices1

You are wrong about universal mail in voting. For the 2020 primary in Clark.County, Nevada, they did universal mail in ballots and mailed ballots to everyone who was on their registered voter rolls. It turned out that 223,000 of those ballots they mailed were not able to be counted for one reason or another. Many of those people no longer lived there or had died. In California, if you apply for a drivers license, you are automatically registered to vote. Illegal aliens are allowed to get a driver’s license in CA. Many States have tried to “clean.up” their voter rolls, but invariably the Democrats have blocked the efforts in court, A primary in New York, this spring, had an incident where it took more than six weeks to declare a winner as ballots kept showing up and they just got so frustrated that they declared a winner without an accurate count.

In California, the mistake was discovered. The people who were unintentionally, automatically registered to vote, who weren't actually eligible to vote, were not allowed to actually vote. Most of those 1500 (less than .01% of the state population) who received that automatic registration but weren't supposed to, didn't even try to vote. California is in the process of fixing that.

Pennsylvania had the same problem, only worse, and they've since changed the system. If you are NOT a US Citizen, the system doesn't automatically register you to vote when you get your license. If you are, you get the registration.

[ficoguy]

Not on the scale of tens of millions has it ever been done.