The answer to that is probably "yes" Borders didn't mean much back then

YES....YES. thank you.
You, my fine person, have my vote.

Yes. Others not covered by the mandate are retirees, unemployed, children, and small businesses.

However, this virus isn't static. it will continue to look for hosts so it can survive. and to do so it will mutate...if everyone

The virus mutating is not caused by the unvaccinated. It is caused by the vaccinated, by trying to resist the antibodies they have.

So why doesn't apply to members of Congress or those who work for Congress or the federal court system?
Speaker of the House has said it is a matter of privacy to know who is or who isn't vaccinated?

So why should I get it.

Not new
 

I hope that the food service workers that are cooking my food have received their required and mandatory Hep C vaccination, so why is this issue so contentious and polarized? Lots of vaccinations are required for various circumstances. My question is who is paying for those unvaccinated and hospitalized covid cases?

This is another ridiculous argument that I see posted a lot. Just because someone doesn’t want to subject themselves to a new technology vaccine, with no long term studies, doesn’t mean that they don’t believe in modern medicine. You may be comfortable taking part in the largest vaccine trial in history. Clearly not everyone does.

I dont understand the constant reference to the borders and "all" if them coming in. You seem to be the only person that is obsessed about it. Is it fear, or something? People have been coming into this country since the beginning. I'm sure you or your parents came here. Why the prejudice toward border people?

I am totally supportive of the mandate to get vaccinated. We have for too long tolerated the fools who think it is their "right" to not only not get vaccinated but then feel free to spread their breath among others. It should be the other way around. In order to really open up this country and get back to some semblance of normality, it is absolutely necessary for everyone to get vaccinated. No whining. Just get the jab and get the second and maybe third dose. This is a public health emergency!

Just think, kids can't go to school if they aren't vaccinated against measles, mumps, rubella and a host of other highly contagious diseases. Whether one likes it or not, we live in a highly social and densely populated world. We must fight this together ...or we lose.

I am of the opinion that there should be no religious exemptions and no other exemptions either. Stand in line, bare your arm, grab your lollipop and then go about your business. If for some reason, an exemption exists, then that person should not be allowed where there are any other people...period!

Is OSHA gonna follow the law and capture the adverse reactions to the mandate? God I hope ... if the results are simple and clear, more will be willing to accept the jab, if not maybe we will be open to other options.

Then they should be vaccinated immediately for everything before they are medically cleared and released into the country. My family had to be declared healthy before they were allowed in.

A mandate iz wen 2 ur moor fellers git tagether fur coffee or lunch.

So the mandate is pointless.

👍
 

If people choose to remain unvaccinated, that’s their choice.
However, when they get sick, they should stay home and deal with it on their own. Stop putting undue pressure on our healthcare system/ workers. If you don’t trust science and the medical field enough to get vaccinated, why the hell would you trust them to get you better??

If people have been vaccinated and are still afraid to go out because I am not, stay home. I certainly am not staying home.
I just saw a commercial for candles and the lady was checking their scents with her mask on. So how does wearing a mask protect me.

Jacobson v. Massachusetts
 

John Marshall Harlan is highly respected by judges across the spectrum of leanings. Chief Justice John Roberts placed Harlan’s portrait on a wall in the room where the justices discuss cases.

Jacobson had a bad reaction to a vaccine and when the smallpox vaccine was mandated, he tested the waters to the level of the Supreme Court.

Jacobson lost and was fined $5.00, and the “common good” opinion written by Harlan in 1905 is with us still.

Today’s vile, incited division is not a result of the small percentage who have real medical reasons not to take the vaccine. I do not think anyone with the ability to think that one through would want them to be forced.

But the fact remains that the current vaccine deniers' go-round is almost entirely based on the rantings of those susceptible to the propaganda they invite to invade their lives in ways that could never have been imagined 116 years ago -- OR those who are a part of the initiating and/or spreading of that propaganda because their goal is to make money by making fools of people -- or the most sinister goal of wanting to see the downfall of our beloved country.

It is interesting to note that the justice newest to SCOTUS recently did NOT succumb to the Indiana University students who wanted IU’s vaccine mandate blocked. Their protest did not get past her. (Note: The university allows exemption from the mandate for both religious and medical reasons.)

Here is a direct quote from the opinion written by the still deeply respected John Marshall Harlan -- easy to understand – or should be – summing up the “common good.”

from the Supreme Court majority opinion written by John Marshall Harlan, 1905:

“There are manifold restraints to which every person is necessarily subject for the common good. On any other basis, organized society could not exist with safety to its members. Society based on the rule that each one is a law unto himself would soon be confronted with disorder and anarchy.

Real liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own, whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that might be done to others.”


(And there it is – in defense of the “the common good” – engraved in our precious history -- I guess we’ll see how that goes.)

Boomer

I'm all for vaccination and mask wearing policies/mandates.
This virus isn't going away on its own.
It keeps finding new hosts in the unvaccinated and continues to evolve and mutate into more contagious and deadly strains.

The majority of patients hospitalized on ventilators, dying and dead are unvaccinated hosts.
100% of the 64 people who have died from Covid just on St. Thomas, VI were unvaccinated. The total population of the USVI encompassing St. John, St. Croix, St. Thomas and its smaller outlying islands is ONLY 106,000.
Senseless and tragic loss of life.

Large companies, corporations and businesses will make vaccinations mandatory for their employees.
The vaccine is free.
Healthcare Insurance and costs of hospitalizations due to covid is not.

"The Fox Corporation has instituted a strict COVID-19 policy that includes a vaccine passport, allowing only the company's fully-vaccinated employees to work in their offices without wearing a mask or social distancing."

100% totally agree.

it's people like you that the vaccinated are now getting fed up with. You want the benefits of others being vaccinated without earning it. unless you are wearing a 95 mask while you are out and about, you risk others. it is selfish.

yes that is another thing circulating on social media but here are the facts: Take a look at the “Tracking SARS-CoV-2 variants” website from the World Health Organization (WHO). This shows when the different “Variants of Concern” and “Variants of Interest” were first detected. As you can see, all of these variants emerged in 2020. Of the Variants of Concern, the Alpha variant was first found in the United Kingdom (U.K.) in September 2020, the Beta variant in South Africa in May 2020, the Gamma variant in Brazil in November 2020, and the Delta variant in India in October 2020. Of the Variants of Interest, the Eta variant was first detected in multiple countries in December 2020, the Iota in the U.S. in November 2020, the Kappa in India in October 2020, and the Lamba variant in Peru in December 2020.

Next keep in mind when Covid-19 vaccination actually started in different parts of the world. As Krishna N. Das and Mayank Bhardwaj reported for Reuters, Covid-19 vaccination didn’t really begin in India until January 2021, about three months after the Delta variant had emerged. Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna did not receive emergency use authorization (EUA) from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for their Covid-19 mRNA vaccines until December 2020, the same month that the Astra-Zeneca Covid-19 vaccine first received authorization in the U.K. All of this was after all four of the Variants of Concern had already been spreading.

Mandated Vax
 

We have been Vax'd. and support the Vax.
Yet, I am totally discussed with the egregious hypocrisy that Mandating businesses
to force employees to get Vax'd. 'OR ELSE!!'
The hypocrisy is that 644,000 Postal Employees have been exempted from the Vax
requirement, WHY, WHY WHY??? They can have as much contact with the public as
any other business employee!!! TOTAL B***S!!!

I think you might be referring to Hepatitis A, you can't get B or C from food. And I am unaware of any "required and mandated" vaccines for food service workers.

Whoa, so mean.
Please inform me how you EARNED anything?
I like to relax with a nice cold beer most nights.
Perhaps I will see you in Brownwood soon.
I'm there most nights.
Have a wonderful day!
Bye

not mean, just true. you are selfish but you are not alone which is the real tragedy. We EARNED it by doing everything we were asked...we wore masks without complaints and stayed home and when a vaccine was available we got it because we want to be able to live our lives again while people like you waltz around without a care about your fellow citizens. as Dirty Harry said,"do you feel lucky"? there are a lot of people on respirators who are begging for the vaccine but are being told it's too late. but obviously, that's a risk you're willing to take for yourself which would be fine if it didn't impact others.

I disagree with you 100%. If people are so stupid not to get vaccinated then mandating vaccination in the worst public health crisis in 1100 years is the right way to go.

It is not this mandate but more to follow
 

Look, if you are vaccinated then why worry about those that are not?

Why is it that they want to mandate any business with >100 employees, but postal workers, congressional and White House staff are all exempt from the mandate?

During lockdowns, business owners were forced to shut down but not government employees! You should really take these things into consideration.

Some of those of you who are not vaccinated are getting sick and filling hospital beds that are needed by others. The more the virus spreads, facilitated by the unvaccinated, the more the chance of mutations. The more cases and patients and deaths the more pressure there is for restrictions and lockdowns that hurt the economy.

The President can only make mandates for the Executive branch - he cannot make mandates for Congressional staff. Can you can point to a source for your assertion that Postal workers or White House staff are exempt?

Some businesses were shut down, not all. Some (most) government was open, not all.

PLEASE...explain your comment

During really bad flu seasons the hospitals are also overwhelmed and deaths are high. What happens when a new variant emerges, because that's what viruses do, and is resistant to any vaccine? You are probably betting that it won't but I wouldn't put too much money on that bet.

ALL people in the US want the CV Pandemic to go away - I will assume that is a GIVEN. So, there are ONLY about 2 ways to achieve that......1 ) The Federal Government exercises its MANDATE to protect ALL citizens by MANDATING CV vaccines for all institutions that it controls ........Or .....2 ) flip a coin and move ALL vaccinated people to (say) West of the Mississippi River and (say) all UNvaccinated people to the East.
......So, which of those two options would cost the less money?
.......I am thinking.......hhhhhmmmmm .....option # 1 is the winner !

Interesting argument but you're forgetting one thing - up until a couple of weeks these were experimental vaccines and no one can deny that they fast-tracked approval because of political pressure as it usually takes decades for the FDA to approve a drug or vaccine. That's not hysteria or belief in weird, conspiracy theories, just common sense.

No one knows the long-term effects of the vaccine nor what it will do to our immune systems, especially if we keep getting booster shots. Naturally people are worried and afraid. Also, the vaccines are only moderately effective. The reason the fully vaccinated still got Covid these past few months was because the variant was different than the spike protein in the Covid-19 vaccine. True, most didn't get terrible ill, although some did, and I know one woman who ended up in the hospital. Until there is a sterilizing vaccine that prevents infection they should not mandate these shots.

Fun fodder, huh? Popcorn? Kindly go f&#k yourself. Maybe if your wife was in the ER , end of life status, and you couldn’t see her (no visitors) because of unvaccinated know-it-alls taking up sick beds, you might not be so entertained by responses to your little grenade. Were you home-schooled? Were you not subject to a vaccine mandate upon entering school? ? There. You got your desired reaction. Enjoy your popcorn. Bye

Vaxxed people are in danger because of at least 2 reasons....
1 ) if you have cancer and need a body part removed then there may be no hospital bed available for said surgery - the cancer spreads and you DIE
2 ) The VIRUS mutates into a variant that can NOT be stopped by ANY vaccine and most of us DIES

The mandates are NOT yet for 100 % of the ADULT US population that can have them and NOT yet for young children. And can't be put into effect immediately. And has yet to withstand legal challenges and whatever the Supreme Court might decide?
Conclusion......the UNvaccinated can still throw a monkey wrench into the Federal turning gears. Ant they could STILL succeed at their (apparent) goal of killing a couple more 100,000 US citizens.
ALL in the name of free-DUMS. Free-DUM'S just another name for more Americans to kill and more time for the LOVELY virus to mutate and get stronger!

I disagree with the contents of this post.

I agree with the content of this post.

I’m sorry your lockdowns didn’t work.
I’m sorry your masks don’t work.
I’m sorry the vaccine doesn’t work better than a placebo.

Just to be clear, a laboratory that creates “gain of function” in viruses is making them more lethal. They are weaponizing those viruses. It is research for the purpose of biological warfare. Funded by the US taxpayers at the behest of Fauci.

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What percentage of the current intensive care patients are NOT vaccinated? Direct your ire at another person or party.

Decades???? Yet another "expert" on FDA policies and procedures. Try again, this time with a much lesser time frame