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[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Sheltie-Lover

What is the purpose of these discussions? Pointing fingers solves nothing. Read the room . People are dying.

But they are vaccinated.

[Joanne19335]

Originally Posted by Tim C.

i'm agreeing with another thread. Too much on COVID, too much spamming of one coffee brand. FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO TALK ABOUT IN YOUR RETIREMENTS.



what are the pro's and cons of bluetooth speakers installed in your golf cart anyway?

We all need to get a life. I know I want to enjoy what life I have left. Reading these discussions are depressing and stressful. I know, I know. Then don’t read them, right?

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by jbrown132

See that’s the problem. If you look at the most recent data, and take all the emotion out of it., yes COVID cases are up, but hospitalizations are only up slightly and deaths are not up at all. Here is an example of the hysteria being generated by the CDC. There are roughly 50 million students in the US. Since COVID hit about two hundred deaths have been recorded as Covid deaths in this demographic. When the head of the CDC was asked if any of these deaths were the result of other illnesses these kids may have had at the time she could not answer. Now we want all our kids to go back to school with masks, if they go back to school at all. We are destroying a generation of kids for the sake of political correctness. Unfortunately, instead of following the science and looking at the statistics the virus has been politicized and this is resulting in people having no trust in the DCD and reluctance to get vaccinated. What a shame.

Not correct about hospitals, I read they are canceling all nonessential surgeries in fl due to overflow.

[flsteve]

Originally Posted by WesMan

Why didn't she mandate the shot????????????????????????

Because that is in violation of federal law 21 U.S. Code 360bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii)(III):

(III) of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks.

Personally, I think that of the 3 things mentioned here, there has been a pretty good effort in the last item (alternatives). However, I also personally believe (like many others) that the second item has been very biased and sensationalized in order to try to convince people to accept the mRNA gene. I would feel so much better if the numbers were simply unarguable, but they are not. "refusing the administration of the product" is continually being attacked in the media and from the CDC (Et al.). Hospitalizations are referenced constantly, while I don't personally recall hearing of one instance where a person got the COVID-19 delta variant and came out of it okay. This is not "balanced" reporting when 99% of those that get COVID-19 survive it! I just want to hear the TRUTH; if we even know what that word really means anymore. The very fact that I am NOT hearing the truth, makes me continue to be distrusting. I personally believe that this is the number one reason for those that have not yet received the vaccine to continue to refuse it. Why are we not hearing the truth? It is possible also that the truth is not yet known.

One more thing to add here... 21 U.S. Code 360bbb-3(c)(2)(B) also states:

(B)the known and potential benefits of the product, when used to diagnose, prevent, or treat such disease or condition, outweigh the known and potential risks of the product(...)"

I truly believe that our government knows that there are many people that have had adverse reactions to a single dose (not per protocol), but I believe that they DO also know that they need to have the COVID-19 vaccine for the greater majority of national protection. If that is true, then perhaps that justifies the biased representations of the media and other disease control representatives. From a national perspective, YOU NEED TO VACCINATE EVERY PERSON, AND QUICKLY. From a personal perspective, however, your choice to take an EXPERIMENTAL gene modification into your body CAN AND DOES IN SOME INSTANCES cause unseen complications to your life. This, I believe, is the basic conundrum of those remaining hesitant.

Personally, I could be convinced on either side of the "get vaccinated/don't get vaccinated" question, but if I can't see unbiased data, I can't make an informed decision.

[Skeety]

The masks...all about control. Do what you want (i do AND will). Don't like it? Too bad. I detest narcissists

[Trophy25]

.....and what say you about the Washington Post

[Kevin_1962]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

I can understand some people’s resistance to wearing masks. But please, if not for yourself would you consider extending consideration to people who know that if they become infected the consequences will be serious? Would you do so for a couple of weeks if a longtime neighbor or close friend asked?

If everyone would extend that kind of friendship and consideration even the new variant could be beaten down in the U.S.

Ok, my first question is if these “neighbors or close friends” have received their vaccine or are they the unvaccinated population? If they are then why is it my responsibility to protect them if they won’t protect themselves. I am vaccinated. I have read the CDC stats on the death rates in the US and they are primarily unvaccinated individuals or vaccinated individuals with underlying conditions. The chance of a vaccinated individual dying from Covid is .0006% which means that you have a 99.994% chance of surviving an infection. The chance of dying from an automobile accident is .0009% yet we all still drive cars
Now if you want to look at a real pandemic compare the Spanish flu of 1918 to today’s so-called pandemic

WORLD POPULATION
1918. 1,800,000,000
2021 7,850,000,000

CASES
1918. 500,000,000
2021 196,040,884

% of POPULATION INFECTED
1918. 27.8%
2021. 2.5%

% of WORLD POPULATION DEATHS from virus
1918. 2.78%
2021 0.054%

For Covid to equal the same number as the Spanish Flu:
There would have to be a total of 2,182,300,000 confirmed cases, currently there are only 196,040,884 cases. That means there would have to be an additional 1,986,259,116 cases to equal the percentage of the 1928-1920 pandemic
There would have to be 216,666,667 deaths, currently there are only 4,188,536 deaths. That means there would have to be an additional 212,478,131 deaths to equal the percentage of the 1918-1920 pandemic.
The world survived that devastating pandemic and I’m sure the world will survive this “pandemic”
And now we have the vaccine so all this crying wolf over this virus is getting old. People die everyday from something. If it’s my time then it’s my time but I’m going to live my life. I was concerned when it first was known back in 2020 but we have learned so much about it now. I for one am not afraid of it and am sick and tired of hearing about it

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by jack.hunter00@yahoo.com

You must be part of the fox network that helps to spread lies.

PLEASE QUOTE the poster you are responding to. We have no idea who you directed this reply to. Who is the "you" in your comment?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

I can understand some people’s resistance to wearing masks. But please, if not for yourself would you consider extending consideration to people who know that if they become infected the consequences will be serious? Would you do so for a couple of weeks if a longtime neighbor or close friend asked?

If everyone would extend that kind of friendship and consideration even the new variant could be beaten down in the U.S.

I know you feel you are doing the only thing that makes anything right in this world by wearing a mask to protect those who are not vaccinated. I commend you for your efforts.

Having said that, I refuse to mask to protect those who refuse to protect themselves. Sorry for those who cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons but it is up to THEM to protect themselves with a PROTECTIVE mask (N95 or equivalent) when they are out in public. I've done my part by being vaccinated and I have much less of a chance of becoming contagious and infecting anyone. I'M DONE wearing that mask but will abide by the wishes of any establishment that REQUIRES masking with a posted sign on their door. That is it for me.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by tsmall22204

It is to protect YOU not for you to police others. Wear the mask and be safe.

I feel very safe with my Moderna vaccine in me. THAT and distancing from others whom I do not know and being around people I KNOW are vaccinated should be all I need to stay safe.

[aallbrand]

We will always have those that do not follow rules . Why focus on what is bad . More productive to focus on the good . The smart , caring humans mask up for the benefit of all . The selfish and not so smart folks look at the bad to justify not masking up .

Get used to it the virus is not going away.

[Escape Artist]

Originally Posted by crash

What does that have to do with now. The delta variant is infecting vaccinated people with a small amount of those dying. Keep this up and soon we won’t have a vaccine that protects at all.

I was responding to another poster on their comment that you can't eat with a mask on which is supposedly why no one was wearing a mask in that photo. I provided an example of the California governor last summer who wanted diners to wear masks and eat at the same time. Then he was caught without a mask at a dinner in a fancy restaurant. People don't like double standards and hypocrisy from those who have the power to control their lives.

[LianneMigiano]

whisper?

[Byte1]

It only matters if the "other side" violates the rules. Everyone knows that.