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Old 08-13-2020, 09:07 AM
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This is why this virus is lingering around and destroying our economy. If everyone had just been required to wear masks and it was enforced as much as possible, things would be so much better right now. It is decisions like his and the attitude of other selfish mefirsters that is extending the severity of this pandemic in Florida.
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The reason for masks is probably;
1. with all the crazies running around that are against the police, you cannot identify a person with a mask who walks in the door.
2 . all employees can then identify each other in case there happens to be an unauthorized person who came in the back door.
3. Messages are sometimes not heard or understood correctly with a mask on.
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Old 08-13-2020, 09:43 AM
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Marion County sheriff forbids masks for deputies, visitors of Marion County Sheriff's Office

What happened to critical thinking in the US? Or, at least, by this Sheriff?

Is he expecting the Terminator to come into his building?

When you encounter a threat too you would hardly be smiling at the person who is posing a danger. So what difference would a mask make when worn by an officer?
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Marion County Sheriff Billy Woods sent an email Tuesday informing the approximately 900 people working in the department that "when you are on-duty/working as my employee and representing my Office – masks will not be worn,"

He went on to say...."effective immediately, any individual walking in to any one of our lobbies (which includes the main office and all district offices) that is wearing a mask will be asked to remove it."

By the way, Marion County, with a population of about 370,000, has had nearly 6,800 confirmed coronavirus cases since the start of the pandemic, with 104 deaths. Marion reported a single-day record of 13 deaths on Tuesday.

Link to full article: Florida Sheriff Orders Deputies And Staff Not To Wear Face Masks : Coronavirus Live Updates : NPR

And then there's this, 43 sheriff's office employees — including several patrol officers — and more than 200 inmates at the Marion County Jail have tested positive for coronavirus.
Good-ole Sheriff Billy...
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He's become a national embarrassment as this story is now all over the news.
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Because there is a war on cops these days. You think the rioters and looters are wearing masks to protect them from covid? No, they are wearing them to hide their identity. People walking into a law enforcement building with a mask on present a threat.
Exactly!!!! Nuff said.
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So, lets get this into perspective. Before this pandemic, if someone wore a mask into a business, especially a law enforcement agency, what would have happened???? Yes, I am sure you know the answer. Now, add to that AntiFa that hates and kills law enforcement and are a constant threat. How do you tell if they are coming into the police station to request assistance or coming in to kill COPs? You can't. Why do you feel that an officer should not take the same precautions as you do to survive during this time? You want to defund the police, AND have them do the same job, only with their hands tied behind their backs.
SHAME ON YOU ALL!

Just a little story about how dangerous their job is. This is a true story about a guy that I fought with in Vietnam. He was one of the only 9 or so guys on a hill that did not get wounded or killed in one particularly bad fire fight over there. He returned home later ('70s) and went into law enforcement. NYC police to be more precise. His partner and he was patrolling the streets on foot patrol when three men walked past them. It does not matter that they were black, but I am throwing it in for detail. After they walked past them, they turned around and pulled guns and emptied them into the two police officers, killing them. The guy that I served with, made it all the way home safely, only to be gunned down with nine bullets in the back by his own fellow Americans. You may have seen the movie they made related to it back in the 70's.

The Police have a very hard job and they are underpaid. Just because you all are scared and hide under your beds because of the boogieman called COVID19 does not mean there are other dangers in this world. If you can't take your mask off to enter a police station and stand six feet away from the person you are speaking with, then you probably don't need to be there.

It makes one wonder how folks can leave their homes, considering all the dangers in the world.

I applaud the leadership of this man that wishes to protect his men and women in uniform. The chances of anyone catching and then the chances of dying from it is so low, especially for those that are supposed to be healthy and protecting us. I do not see why you can't take care of most of what you need from an officer on the phone anyway.

It's not just about you. We have folks out there putting their lives on the line every day, and catching a virus is the least of their problems when they have folks micro managing them at their every turn, and others that want only to kill them.
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Old 08-13-2020, 10:54 AM
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I agree with the Sheriff. Wearing a mask for long periods subjects people to Breathing in an unhealthy amount Of CO 2. Occasional uses of masks is not dangerous- long periods of mask usage is. Read the studies
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Those that live in the County can fix this.....he is elected right?
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If this is the reason for the "NO MASK" order from the Sheriff, then the use of face shields should be allowed, in fact, should be required.
Good point about face shields. That would "un-mask" his real reason for making this rule - to get re-elected or get to be Mayor by pandering to the confused logic of his probable voters who are now "mask adverse" due to leadership propaganda and general conservative thinking in rural America and Florida. He may change as local people he knows DIES. This Pandemic is in ONLY the 2nd inning. The CV will NOT be blocked by a tiny silver badge and a uniform. A mask CAN help block it. Remember people in Australia and most of Europe are leading normal lives. We are in BIZZARO land and Marian Co. is a GREAT example!
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Old 08-13-2020, 11:32 AM
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My girlfriend spends winters in Ocala training her horse. Her parents live four hours south of Ocala. Both are now in the hospital with Covid-19, and they seem to be going downhill. One is 91, one 85. They don’t know how they were exposed, they say, but her mom has dementia and is quite able to walk around touching things and not wearing a mask. So I’m a bit sensitive about masks these days. I believe in wearing them when around people. Gloves, too.

I read the sheriff’s directive in the newspaper. Twice. I wish he had stated a rationale, such as “I don’t believe masks help,” or “The safety of my employees and the public doesn’t matter to me,” or “I’m afraid of alienating voters if I require masks.”

I found his directive confusing. “All essential personnel (and that’s everyone)” is required to wear masks if the CDC requires it and Human Resources says to comply. Put hasn’t the CDC strongly recommended masks?

Sheriff’s personnel are FORBIDDEN to wear masks for a call to someone who is sick at home and may have Covid-19 AFTER they have been identified. What? Maybe the sheriff simply doesn’t express himself clearly in writing. (Perhaps he means deputies are to stand at a distance without masks while identifying themselves, but then put on masks and gloves before approaching? Maybe this is meant to keep from scaring people. Just a guess.) If I recall correctly, they are also forbidden to wear masks while making arrests. What?

And the public isn’t allowed into the Sheriff’s Department if they ARE wearing masks. If they want to wear masks, they can come in without a mask, request a paper where they can write their phone number, then stand outside wearing their masks until a deputy comes out to see what they want. That’s the policy! What? Are they supposed to hold their breath while standing in line in the lobby? In the post office, every customer wears a mask or becomes a social pariah. But no one who actually has the virus would come into the Sheriff’s Office? Really?

It seems to me that the sheriff has been watching too many misinformed YouTube videos. Or perhaps he knows where his bread is buttered, so to speak, and he wants to keep that butter coming. With all this “good” publicity, maybe he’s hoping for a new job in Washington in some agency. But he won’t have my vote.

Let me mention that I support strong law enforcement and favor chain gangs for looters. I believe blue lives matter. So let’s keep them alive! The sheriff seems to not care about that.
I agree about the GLOVES also. Especially for deputies that will touch their mouths and then people or objects for people to touch. What if they work in that contagious prison then go and sit at McDonalds. Do they or anyone sanitize behind them? I think not. Public servants are PAID to SERVE the people that they interact with. Taxpayers are getting ripped off and killed in Marion Co. Some lawyer - please sue. What if ALL the property owners of Marion Co. refused to send in their checks for property tax? Would that get the Sheriff fired? Just trying to imagine a more perfect world - sorry, I must be day-dreaming.
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Old 08-13-2020, 11:35 AM
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That Sherif is not playing with all his/her marbles, should be fired for endangering the public, instead of serving and protecting them.

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Ridiculous. You can’t hide from a virus and you could never prove that anyone that works for him gave somebody the virus. Masks do not work. People are paranoid. Never thought I would see this in the United States of America. The media has turned many people into total idiots
Yes and half of the people in the US need to look themselves in the eye and ask, "am I that idiot?'
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Well their death rate compared to population would be about a 99.8% survival rate. That’s exactly about the same as the flu. So for me glad to see the sheriff is using some common sense and not operating with total paranoia like a lot of people.
That statistic does NOT take into consideration those who suffer at home or in a hospital and survive. And there are yet uncalculated adverse LIFETIME effects. This is a NOVEL virus, its future behavior and threat is unknown. Best to NOT get it at all. Do NOT disregard science! You can't pray away the CV.
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Yes and half of the people in the US need to look themselves in the eye and ask, "am I that idiot?'
We've had 545,040 positive cases of Covid-19 in Florida, I wonder how many religiously wore a mask? That would be a great follow up I would love to see. And with 8,765 deaths in Florida, the 55+ group account for 93% of them. If you can't understand why those under 55 don't feel at risk then you're delusional. The death rate for those in the age group 25-34 is 0.0005. And that's just from the REPORTED positives. You're right, they're more likely to die from an old person in a car crash. If I was in that age group I'd say I'll wear a mask when you start road testing every person over 65 every year. Among females, the over-65 age group had the highest number of fatalities followed by the 16-to-20 age group. Among males, the age groups 16 to 20, 21 to 25, and over 65 had more crash fatalities than other age. We already have limitations in place for the younger age groups, why not those over 65? It's about keeping others safe right? If I was in the younger age demographic I would say "I'll start worrying about keeping them safe when they start worrying about keeping me safe".
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