Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2003440)

It's just the Pfizer vaccine w/a new name... (And yes, I had to look that up...)

Originally Posted by drducat (Post 2003060)

That is where all the valid info is coming from...UK and Israel.The only countries with honest data...US has been tell fibs and too many are buying it....

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2003447)

Their data is honest for Britain but can not be used as a comparison for the US. As I already said......apples and oranges.

Originally Posted by drducat (Post 2003142)

To think this is happening is outlandish.....

FDA ‘playing bait and switch’ with Americans, tricking them into believing shots currently being offered have been granted full approval when they have not – LeoHohmann.com

Originally Posted by jswirs (Post 2003164)

This is a huge WOW. As I have been saying, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. And...The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior!

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2003464)

The head of the CDC in 1976 was squirming for sure. He was not being transparent at all about the Swine Flu vaccine side effects. Having said that, Guillian Barre Syndrome is a very well known potential side effect of vaccines and has been for years.

The CDC has been very transparent with the possible side effects of these current vaccines for Covid. Guillian Barre Syndrome is also a possible side effect of the Covid vaccines. This is not news to me and this information has been very well publicized.

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2002405)

Vaccine passports could indicate date of expiration and date of renewal when boosters show full vaccination status as now in Israel. But that’s not really what you are asking?

And …

‘The vaccines were 87 percent effective overall at preventing hospitalization, protection that remained relatively consistent before and after Delta became the country’s dominant variant, the study shows. But that figure masks notable differences between age groups. The shots were only 80 percent effective at keeping adults over 65 from being hospitalized with Covid, while they were 95 percent effective for people between ages 18 and 64.’

is probably explained by the fact that the older people got vaccinated first and therefore their vaccines are older and had more time to wane.

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2003477)

Our cat has not been vaccinated, had Covid, worn a mask, and never once has socially distanced herself in public.
We now live on Meow Mix Original, the best protection out there!

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2003470)

UNvaccinated people are 11 times MORE likely to die from CV than vaccinated people!

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2002509)

Asymptomatic breakthrough cases go uncounted all the time, just as asymptomatic cases of the un-vaccinated go uncounted. There is no need to get tested if you are not having symptoms unless you need to test for travel or employment or whatever other reason there may be.

So......why bother to count those breakthrough cases at all? The purpose of our vaccines was always to minimize the symptoms of Covid and prevent death. I do understand the reason for the CDC to stop counting breakthrough cases unless those cases result in hospitalization and death. Those are the cases the vaccine failed to do what it was supposed to do. Those are the cases that need to be counted.

All my opinion.

Originally Posted by glsatterlee (Post 2002519)

Report from the Cleveland Clinic:

People who have previously been infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 are protected against being infected again and thus don’t need to be vaccinated, according to a new study.

“Our conclusion is that if you were previously infected, you are protected because of the previous infection and you don’t need the vaccine,” Dr. Nabin Shrestha, of the Cleveland Clinic’s Department of Infectious Disease, told The Epoch Times.

Shrestha and colleagues at the clinic studied data on employees, separating them into four groups: previously infected and unvaccinated, previously infected and vaccinated, not previously infected and unvaccinated, and not previously infected and vaccinated.

They found the vaccines were strongly effective in preventing infection from the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, which causes COVID-19, but that previous infection also bestowed a natural immunity.

“Among the people who were previously infected, whether they took the vaccine or not, there really were no COVID cases,” Shrestha said.

Of the 52,238 employees studied, 2,579 were previously infected. About half of those remained unvaccinated. Of the 49,659 employees who did not have a previous infection, 41 percent did not get a vaccine.

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2003477)

Our cat has not been vaccinated, had Covid, worn a mask, and never once has socially distanced herself in public.
We now live on Meow Mix Original, the best protection out there!

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 2003479)

Our dog has stuck his nose many places it shouldn't be, yet continues to be virus-resistant.:icon_wink:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2002544)

Can you post a source for your claim that no one died from flu, heart disease, or cancer? This report seems to show otherwise.

If the Covid death numbers are just cooked, do you have an explanation for the approximately 550,000 additional deaths in 2020?

What prerequisite screening processes were skipped?