[holger danske]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Li-Meng Yan - Wikipedia

She looks like a hack scientist. She was used for political ends and and very willing it looks like. She also seems to have little integrity and her scientific work has a very poor reputation.

and that's probably why Fauci included her on a conference call with other scientists to push his agenda.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by holger danske

and that's probably why Fauci included her on a conference call with other scientists to push his agenda.

When did he do that? Fauci has many eyes on him as well as ears and would probably want to keep a good reputation.

[holger danske]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

When did he do that? Fauci has many eyes on him as well as ears and would probably want to keep a good reputation.

Dr. Fauci says scientists in secret February 2020 call said COVID was 'possibly an engineered virus'

Feb 1, 2020

also
Fauci on COVID origins, lab leaks, emails and a call with scientists

[holger danske]

Oh, and he didn't tell anyone on the WH taskforce about the call.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by holger danske

Dr. Fauci says scientists in secret February 2020 call said COVID was 'possibly an engineered virus'

Feb 1, 2020

also
Fauci on COVID origins, lab leaks, emails and a call with scientists

I missed where either of these article mention Li-Meng Yan.

There is an unflattering wikipedia article about her. (EDIT: Just noticed the wikipedia link was already provided)

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

All the great Dictators in world History have gained personal power by using weaker groups to step on. Intensifying the search for the "origins" of Covid 19 allows power to accumulate to individuals and small groups by blaming China - create a "bogeyman" and then squash them - thus making yourself WONDERFUL and BLAMELESS!

Always works for politicians

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I missed where either of these article mention Li-Meng Yan.

There is an unflattering wikipedia article about her. (EDIT: Just noticed the wikipedia link was already provided)

No, it never ever mentioned her name although the posters did.

Also missing was any indication of her other ties....some familiar names...

Dr. Li-Meng Yan wanted to remain anonymous. It was mid-January, and Dr. Yan, a researcher in Hong Kong, had been hearing rumors about a dangerous new virus in mainland China that the government was playing down. Terrified for her personal safety and career, she reached out to her favorite Chinese YouTube host, known for criticizing the Chinese government.

Within days, the host was telling his 100,000 followers that the coronavirus had been deliberately released by the Chinese Communist Party. He wouldn’t name the whistle-blower, he said, because officials could make the person “disappear.”

By September, Dr. Yan had abandoned caution. She appeared in the United States on Fox News making the unsubstantiated claim to millions that the coronavirus was a bio-weapon manufactured by China.

Note...I eliminated the link because it made many referrals to the political aspect of it. I copied and pasted nay what erred to the accusations rendered. Should anyone want the link, I will supply it, but it came from The New York Times

The continuing condemnation of another human being continues, while these same posters will defend while watching a video proving facts.

Sad that this stuff continues in our country and that wild conspiracy theories are abundant and promulgated. This kind of persecution (which includes death threats on Faucci, etc) was always something Americans were flabbergasted by in other countries.

Now, as with any third world country, we are wide open to these conspiracy theories, no matter how many have been proven untrue and only begun to further other things.

If you read the article, it will detail how this got started, more importantly all the players.

[lkagele]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

But as an alt left communist liberal democrat I do not like the facts presented by the NYPost. I am sorry but I must say, since it shows I am biased, I must say that the paper is not credible.

Just because you believe the paper is biased doesn't mean its reporting is not factual. You're probably still hung up on the Hunter laptop story it broke. That turned out to be 100% accurate.

Do like the rest of us do. Google, Bing, DuckDuckgo and/or Qwant to see if what's being reported can be verified. You'll find in this instance, the NY Post is factual.

[nick demis]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

There’s no evidence that the Wuhan laboratory, with or without funding from an NIH grant, created SARS-CoV-2.

There’s no evidence that the Wuhan laboratory, with or without funding from an NIH grant, created SARS-CoV-2.

There’s no evidence that the Wuhan laboratory, with or without funding from an NIH grant, created SARS-CoV-2.

There’s no evidence that the Wuhan laboratory, with or without funding from an NIH grant, created SARS-CoV-2.

And just in case you're not convinced:

There’s no evidence that the Wuhan laboratory, with or without funding from an NIH grant, created SARS-CoV-2.

Keep trying to convince yourself because you are one of the very few that refuses to wake up. I just made a joke, the woke that wont wake up. Ha Ha Ha

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by merrymini

Political stuff like this should be removed because it is political and posters with an iq of less than 60 should not be allowed to post. Especially ones who cannot spell.

Can't handle the TRUTH, can ya?

[SkBlogW]

Originally Posted by Bucco

No, it never ever mentioned her name although the posters did.

Also missing was any indication of her other ties....some familiar names...

Dr. Li-Meng Yan wanted to remain anonymous. It was mid-January, and Dr. Yan, a researcher in Hong Kong, had been hearing rumors about a dangerous new virus in mainland China that the government was playing down. Terrified for her personal safety and career, she reached out to her favorite Chinese YouTube host, known for criticizing the Chinese government.

Within days, the host was telling his 100,000 followers that the coronavirus had been deliberately released by the Chinese Communist Party. He wouldn’t name the whistle-blower, he said, because officials could make the person “disappear.”

By September, Dr. Yan had abandoned caution. She appeared in the United States on Fox News making the unsubstantiated claim to millions that the coronavirus was a bio-weapon manufactured by China.

How Steve Bannon and a Chinese Billionaire Created a Right-Wing Coronavirus Media Sensation - The New York Times

The continuing condemnation of another human being continues, while these same posters will defend while watching a video proving facts.

Sad that this stuff continues in our country and that wild conspiracy theories are abundant and promulgated. This kind of persecution (which includes death threats on Faucci, etc) was always something Americans were flabbergasted by in other countries.

Now, as with any third world country, we are wide open to these conspiracy theories, no matter how many have been proven untrue and only begun to further other things.

If you read the article, it will detail how this got started, more importantly all the players.

As usual you are getting way off track and wrestling with strawmen. This thread is about actual documents, procured by a left wing website The Intercept. The documents were read completely by an eminent scientist, Dr Ebright who is as apolitical as one can be. I have provided links to his comments after reading the documents which I advise you to read. This is not some whackjob conspiracy but in fact is based on government documents.

See post 100 for links to Dr Ebright's comments.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Li-Meng Yan - Wikipedia

She looks like a hack scientist. She was used for political ends and and very willing it looks like. She also seems to have little integrity and her scientific work has a very poor reputation.

She is a political hack, and most importantly has close ties to US political hacks and other conspiracy theories.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

THIS 1000 times.

I do not understand these folks. They refuse to accept reality even when it is proven over and over to be true.

They will spend their time trying so hard to promote fantasies, and attacking people on a personal basis with no basis. Everything to them is a “big lie”

Better wake up and face reality. This COVID battle was lost the minute the denials and lies were center stage.

[lkagele]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Li-Meng Yan - Wikipedia

She looks like a hack scientist. She was used for political ends and and very willing it looks like. She also seems to have little integrity and her scientific work has a very poor reputation.

I'm finding it's more and more difficult to obtain reliable information from Widepedia, Snopes or any 'fact checking' organization. They all seem to be biased usually too far left but also a few too far to the right. I've found it helps to use multiple search engines. I use Google, Bing, Qwant and DuckDuckgo. Sometimes just the difference in 'hits' you get can be enlightening. When I use Qwant and Duck, I often find myself asking, why didn't Google show me this?

Try this: Dr. Li-Meng Yan • myMedicalFreedom.org

Because of her extensive professional network and scientific evidence, Dr. Yan has the distinction of being the only Chinese insider in the west with firsthand knowledge about the true nature of the virus as well as the CCP’s deceptive methods used to disguise their international bioweapons research.

Since escaping from Hong Kong on April 28, 2021, she has been interviewed four times by the FBI, including an FBI virologist, and each time she has been deemed credible.

When she defected, she put her entire family still in China at risk. I think that also gives her some measure of credibility.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by SkBlogW

As usual you are getting way off track and wrestling with strawmen. This thread is about actual documents, procured by a left wing website The Intercept. The documents were read completely by an eminent scientist, Dr Ebright who is as apolitical as one can be. I have provided links to his comments after reading the documents which I advise you to read. This is not some whackjob conspiracy but in fact is based on government documents.

See post 100 for links to Dr Ebright's comments.

I will repeat what I said more than once...

1. If Dr Faucci lies to Congress upgrade that charge to treason.

2. Having said that, I do not believe there is any charge that has not been leveled at this man in the last two years that has not been reviewed by pretty much all agencies, most have already been debunked, but they keep moving back with new variations.

3. I completely do not understand any of it. The man has served this country with honor. Never a problem, until he disagreed with an elected official, not a scientist, an elected official.

4. I hope you read the story I posted from the Times in post 107. I hope you are aware of the activities within our country in concert with Chinese activists . It is an oft repeated story and the surmises, and that is all they are at this point, not factual, point to another plot emend ting from maybe the same source.

I did not supply the link because it was very political, as the war against Faucci is. I will send it to you via PM with no comments and nor reason to reply.