[rsmurano]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Well, it was inevitable that The-Sky-Is-Falling folks were going to be weighing in today. It is, after all, the first day of Armageddon. Bodies in the streets. The Childerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrn in even more mortal danger than they were on June 30. October 26, 1881 Tombstone, AZ will be remembered as an idyllic oasis compared to what Florida in general, and The Villages in particular, will become.

Except that we've heard it all before.

What will happen?

Nothing.

Agree! We should eventually have less crime because the robbers don’t know if you have a gun and they don’t want to be surprised. I suggest the OP move to Chicago where they have the strictest gun laws and we all know the shootings that go on there every day. Chicago isn’t the only city that’s bad, NYC, LA, SF and many others that have strict gun laws that protect the criminals and screw the law abiding citizen

[OETTING]

Originally Posted by Maker

One could move to Chicago or New York City or Detroit if highly restrictive gun control laws make you feel safer.

These are the 20 states with the highest firearm homicide rates in the country along with their gun-friendliness scores:

Louisiana: 11.0 (3)
Mississippi: 10.2 (5)
Alabama: 9.5 (4)
Missouri: 8.5 (5)
Maryland: 7.4 (1)
South Carolina: 7.4 (3)
Tennessee: 6.7 (4)
Illinois: 6.5 (2)
Arkansas: 6.2 (3)
Georgia: 6.2 (4)
Alaska: 6.0 (5)
New Mexico: 5.7 (4)
Oklahoma: 5.7 (4)
Indiana: 5.3 (4)
Delaware: 5.1 (2)
North Carolina: 5.0 (4)
Nevada: 4.8 (3)
Ohio: 4.8 (4)
Kentucky: 4.7 (4)
Florida: 4.6 (4)

[jimkerr]

Originally Posted by BobnBev

Very scary new law. Gun permits are no longer required in Florida. There is still a waiting period to purchase a handgun if you don't have a CCW. Got to be a nightmare for Law Enforcement. Every person they stop is a potential shooter.

What’s your point? Every stop had always been a potential shooter. This new law doesn’t change that.

Criminals don’t pay attention to laws. If guns were illegal to have only the criminals would have them.

[Dantes]

Citizens with guns is the reason for the 4 th of July

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by OETTING

These are the 20 states with the highest firearm homicide rates in the country along with their gun-friendliness scores:

The point was, highly restrictive gun control does not reduce crime.........what's your point?? No one says gun-friendly reduces crime.

[lpkruege1]

Originally Posted by Maker

One could move to Chicago or New York City or Detroit if highly restrictive gun control laws make you feel safer.

But those cities let criminals run free, at least Florida locks them up. Milwaukee, WI is almost as bad with several shootings a night. You do need a permit to concealed carry. Felons and those under 21 are not allowed to carry a gun. It doesn't seem to stop them, after all criminals don't abide by laws. In Milwaukee, most gun crimes are dropped or pled down. I'd rather take my chances in Florida.

[Dantes]

Dangerous For criminals

[donfey]

Originally Posted by mraines

This, combined with Florida's stand your ground law make Florida a dangerous place.

Bullspit. If you were a "career criminal" would you choose to "do business" in a State like Florida? Or, might you feel more at ease someplace with harsh gun laws, like Chicago, New York, St. Louis? Sorry, but the ONLY thing that will deter bad guys with guns is good guys with guns.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Dantes

Citizens with guns is the reason for the 4 th of July

Bulls-eye! (to coin a phrase...)

[Andyb]

Originally Posted by BobnBev

Very scary new law. Gun permits are no longer required in Florida. There is still a waiting period to purchase a handgun if you don't have a CCW. Got to be a nightmare for Law Enforcement. Every person they stop is a potential shooter.

You still have a background check to purchase a gun, so not everyone can buy a gun. The “bad” guys already have guns. Most crimes are done with stolen weapons.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by rsmurano

Agree! We should eventually have less crime because the robbers don’t know if you have a gun and they don’t want to be surprised. I suggest the OP move to Chicago where they have the strictest gun laws and we all know the shootings that go on there every day. Chicago isn’t the only city that’s bad, NYC, LA, SF and many others that have strict gun laws that protect the criminals and screw the law abiding citizen

Yep.

Proof of that was some years back when permit-to-carry went into effect in Minnesota. Minnesota is super-restrictive in a lot of ways but surprisingly not when it comes to carrying firearms. You can open carry in that state if you have a permit and some did, though my personal opinion is that the ONLY person who needs to know if I am carrying or not is me.

Anyway, there were all the usual doleful predictions about what horrible things were going to be happening once permit-to-carry went into effect. The anti - 2nd. Amendment folks spared no effort in trying to convince other Minnesotans that the street departments of the various Minnesota cities were going to be sweeping up dead bodies on a routine basis every morning. Didn't happen, of course. But one thing that DID happen was that there were a lot of businesses that had signs prominently posted in their windows "Guns Not Allowed On These Premises". They came down right quick when it became apparent that those were the businesses being targeted by the criminals!

Bad guys don't like their victims shooting back.

[Andyb]

Statistically, the opposite is true.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

The point was, highly restrictive gun control does not reduce crime.........what's your point?? No one says gun-friendly reduces crime.

Maybe not "no one;" I counted at three posts with that assertion on the last two pages of this thread.

[Wondering]

Originally Posted by Hardlyworking

Criminals with guns don’t have permits. Who are you more worried about?

Pathetic response! You a lobbyist for the NRA/Gun industry? There is no truth to what you have stated. Again, Pathetic!

[JRcorvette]

Originally Posted by BobnBev

Very scary new law. Gun permits are no longer required in Florida. There is still a waiting period to purchase a handgun if you don't have a CCW. Got to be a nightmare for Law Enforcement. Every person they stop is a potential shooter.

Why is it so scary??? Do you really thing the Bad Guys out there have Carry Permits? People have been carrying guns without permits for a very long time. Nothing will change.