[Antique lady]

What's happened in our country is not about blaming others. It is about accountability when murder is committed. It is about accountability when there are funding disparities in our nation's schools based on poverty, race and ethnicity. It is about accountability when polling places are removed from communities of color and moved further away. It is about accountability when calling to rent an apartment, being told it is available while on a cell walking to the door and when the landloard hangs up the phone as you end the call with them suddenly no availability. It is about showing up for an interview and dealing with the shocked face of HR that did not know based on your application that you were a person of color or sometimes based on name did not know you were a woman.

All of this is about holding institutions accountable so that all people can be treated fairly and all people will have the opportunities you speak of. NO there are not programs that hold people accountable. Have no idea what programs you are referring to.

Poverty knows no color. Poor whites, poor latinos, poor asians, poor African Americans face similar challenges with education, employment, food security and housing. I worry about what will happen in July when the freeze on evictions ends and jobs that were halted due to Covid 19 are no longer available with some employers. How will those formerly employed people live.... We are in a world of hurt as a nation. Time to stand together....

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by kathy1516

I came from poorly educated parents. My father died young, my mother a widow taking care of three young kids ages 6mo to 11 years old. We grew up poor before the culture of handouts and we worked hard to help her out as soon as we were old enough. I put myself through college at night while I worked full time during the day. No advantages given to us.
I’m really tired of hearing about the disadvantaged minorities who grew up with uneducated parents and no opportunities.
This is bunk! Stay in school, stay away from drugs, stay away from crime, work hard, apply all the anger that’s displayed During protests towards self improvement rather than blaming whites for your situation. There are so many programs available to minorities, scholarships, federal grant money. Pull yourself up and make positive change in your own lives.

Very well said. Look at the Vietnamese who came here with nothing not speaking the language and how successful many are in one generation.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov

Very well said. Look at the Vietnamese who came here with nothing not speaking the language and how successful many are in one generation.

I have seen several top drawer Vietnamese physicians and have had a Chinese woman dentist. My daughter has seen at least two Korean and a couple Vietnamese physicians.

Almost every group of immigrants who came into this country faced obstacles, language, prejudice, name calling and so on. Even incarceration for almost any perceived misbehavior. How did the "Paddy Wagon" get its name?

Remember years of indentured servitude for passage to America?

[ColdNoMore]

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[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Antique lady

What's happened in our country is not about blaming others. It is about accountability when murder is committed.

It is about accountability when there are funding disparities in our nation's schools based on poverty, race and ethnicity.

It is about accountability when polling places are removed from communities of color and moved further away.

It is about accountability when calling to rent an apartment, being told it is available while on a cell walking to the door and when the landloard hangs up the phone as you end the call with them suddenly no availability.

It is about showing up for an interview and dealing with the shocked face of HR that did not know based on your application that you were a person of color or sometimes based on name did not know you were a woman.

All of this is about holding institutions accountable so that all people can be treated fairly and all people will have the opportunities you speak of. NO there are not programs that hold people accountable. Have no idea what programs you are referring to.

Poverty knows no color. Poor whites, poor latinos, poor asians, poor African Americans face similar challenges with education, employment, food security and housing. I worry about what will happen in July when the freeze on evictions ends and jobs that were halted due to Covid 19 are no longer available with some employers. How will those formerly employed people live.... We are in a world of hurt as a nation. Time to stand together....

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

1 George Floyd killed by Police during arrest 2020

9 Unarmed blacks killed by police 2019

18 People killed during George Floyd protests

19 Unarmed whites killed by police 2019

48 Police officers killed on duty 2019

59,777 White on Black violent acts committed 2018

547,948 Black on White violent acts committed 2018

I am not seeing police brutality as the problem here.

Yup

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq

I did a Google search on this very subject and the stats do not add up. I researched it all ways and the black vs white doesn't add up that blacks are being singled out.

Even % wise all this is hyped up. I took the time to research this and it is false reporting.

The person who killed George Floyd has been arrested and so he should be, I have watched all of the videos.

However the aftermath played into the hands of BLM, and Antifa, who were waiting for the right opportunity and they did a masterful job in creating violence's.

So go ahead who fall for the lies do your homework like I did. Really really, sad what has happened.

It will unfortunately change our Country.

The organizers that I mentioned were just waiting for the opportunity and they pulled it off.

Better wake up.

There are well organized factions who want to bring the USA down.

Well said

[roscoguy]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Slavery existed long before America was even discovered and Europeans began their trade. Slavery existed in the first civilizations like the Sumer in Mesopotamia (3500 BC)
Slavery has been inflicted by just about every race and religion on the planet. Africans, Caucasians, Asians, even American Natives had slaves. You'd be surprised that slavery still exists in several countries today, and they aren't run by white people.

You are making a blatant attempt to blame only whites for slavery. Do some more research.

The post I was replying to referred to the history of slavery as relates to Europe & America. That it exists or existed before, after or anywhere else has nothing to do with that.
I'm not at all surprised that it still exits today.
I made no blatant attempt to blame whites for ALL slavery. Go back & reread the post I was responding to & then take mine more in context.
Done plenty of research on the subject I was actually referring to.

[kathy1516]

Originally Posted by CatskillBill

Thank you Kathy for the best post of the year. I couldn't have said it any better.
My Mom raised 4 boys alone, and we all turned out fine because of a good moral fiber and working damn hard all our lives.
The incentive to work hard disappears as the government gives out more and more "Free Sh*t".

You grew up like I did CarSkillBill. No handouts and government freebies. We worked hard for what we had. We didn’t have it easy, but overcame the obstacles and made a productive life for ourselves. Too much government intervention promotes nothing but a culture of lazy dependence. The Vietnamese are a prime example of a hard working culture. The minorities should take note of cultures such as theirs.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by cleanwater

You miss the main point. This murder was more like a public Lynching than murder. It was done in the public in front of a crowd and took minutes to complete the killing. A public lynching in the year 2020 In the United States is pretty frightening.

Please refer me to the post where you express your outrage over Tony Timpa’s death. I must have missed it...

[Swoop]

[QUOTE=ColdNoMore;1780010]Just curious, but did you do this while also having...black skin?

Do you think your life would have been different at all...if you had?

Do you think any of us who were born white, really have a clue...what it's like to be black?

Other than reading about/talking to, those that are black...that is.

You seem to be the only one who knows what it’s like to be black and how black people think. You have already inferred in previous posts that blacks wish they were white... Many may feel that is a truly racist point of view...
I would be hard pressed to disagree with them...

[ColdNoMore]

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov

Very well said. Look at the Vietnamese who came here with nothing not speaking the language and how successful many are in one generation.

If you are speaking of the Vietnamese that were refugees in the 70's, point of interest is that they were given a gov grant of something like $24k (not sure of the exact amount)each to help establish themselves here. Not much by today's standards, but........ I totally agree with you, though. Many immigrants have taken advantage of our FREEDOM and opportunity to succeed in this great country. Those that are able and are not successful can only blame themselves. I am not talking about the distant past where some were kept out due to race, gender or even not being a member of a secret society/club. There is NO excuse today for those that are able.

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

1 George Floyd killed by Police during arrest 2020

9 Unarmed blacks killed by police 2019

18 People killed during George Floyd protests

19 Unarmed whites killed by police 2019

48 Police officers killed on duty 2019

59,777 White on Black violent acts committed 2018

547,948 Black on White violent acts committed 2018

I am not seeing police brutality as the problem here.

Thank you, I agree! No protest about the killings, fires & looting. I guess that overrides George’s death. Thanks again!

[junction29]

Originally Posted by kathy1516

I came from poorly educated parents. My father died young, my mother a widow taking care of three young kids ages 6mo to 11 years old. We grew up poor before the culture of handouts and we worked hard to help her out as soon as we were old enough. I put myself through college at night while I worked full time during the day. No advantages given to us.
I’m really tired of hearing about the disadvantaged minorities who grew up with uneducated parents and no opportunities.
This is bunk! Stay in school, stay away from drugs, stay away from crime, work hard, apply all the anger that’s displayed During protests towards self improvement rather than blaming whites for your situation. There are so many programs available to minorities, scholarships, federal grant money. Pull yourself up and make positive change in your own lives.

Well said, rather than finding people to blame, work hard to make a good life for yourself and your family.
Just so you know, I went down the pit (coal mine) at fifteen, married and had a child at 19 and still married today 54 years later after a very successful business career.
How hard you work determines how successful you are.