[drducat]

Originally Posted by drducat

Robert W Malone, MD
@RWMaloneMD
Inventor of mRNA vaccines and RNA as a drug, Bench to Bedside vaccines and biologics consulting.

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[blueash]

Originally Posted by drducat

It only means that they are carriers and asymptomatic as I have been shot down on before. This vaccine is only B cell immunity...not T cell....which is full immune. Also.....

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Once again you are wrong. Whatever sources you are using are wrong. The mRNA vaccines have been shown to induce both B cell and T cell immunity.

Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines induce T-cell immunity against SARS-CoV-2).

The researchers – from Massachusetts General Hospital and Harvard Medical School in Boston – report that the T-cell response increased significantly from baseline after just one vaccine dose. After a second dose, the response was more potent than in a convalescent cohort.

Do you see that? The vaccine induced a more vigorous T cell response than having the disease produced? Of course it was Harvard and MIT so it is all part of the conspiracy of institutions of higher education in that liberal state of Massachusetts. You might not believe what they report.
Maybe you would believe a report from 2020 in the journal Nature from British researchers who reported about the AZ vaccine

The vaccine was tolerated, with induction of neutralizing antibodies and antigen-specific T cells against the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.

You again are wrong and spreading dangerous misinformation. By the way, Dr. Malone certainly is not the inventor of mRNA vaccines. He was a participant, not the leader, in some studies in the 1990's on mRNA. He never produced a vaccine. The person credited with in fact doing the heavy lifting in promoting use of mRNA is Katalin Kariko. The only "authority" who credits Dr. Malone, is Dr. Malone on his own website. You can read his opinions on Epoch Times where he is a featured person. So Harvard, MIT, the journal Nature vs Epoch Times.

You still have not answered my query as to what kind of doctor drducat might be. Maybe one of the alternative fields? Maybe not even any training in medicine.. like Dr Dre or Dr J?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by bmit16

There is never any mention of the millions of people who had covid and have the anti bodies. In fact, there have been 71 confirmed reinfections of these people, in contrast, over 100,000 people have contracted covid after being vaccinated and 1000 of them have died. Why does the government not put this vital information in their push to get people vaccinated? Perhaps we should follow the money to see who in Washington is benefiting financially from vaccinations. If you have not had covid and you have not been vaccinated, then you should probably consider a vaccination. But the people who have been confirmed to have had covid, should get the same pass as a vaccinated person who in fact is more vulnerable.

Where did you find this information?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by drducat

100% agree and those that did take the jab end up destroying the natural immunities and replace with much weaker.

That statement IS NOT true!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by blueash

Once again you are wrong. Whatever sources you are using are wrong. The mRNA vaccines have been shown to induce both B cell and T cell immunity.

Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines induce T-cell immunity against SARS-CoV-2).



Do you see that? The vaccine induced a more vigorous T cell response than having the disease produced? Of course it was Harvard and MIT so it is all part of the conspiracy of institutions of higher education in that liberal state of Massachusetts. You might not believe what they report.
Maybe you would believe a report from 2020 in the journal Nature from British researchers who reported about the AZ vaccine


You again are wrong and spreading dangerous misinformation. By the way, Dr. Malone certainly is not the inventor of mRNA vaccines. He was a participant, not the leader, in some studies in the 1990's on mRNA. He never produced a vaccine. The person credited with in fact doing the heavy lifting in promoting use of mRNA is Katalin Kariko. The only "authority" who credits Dr. Malone, is Dr. Malone on his own website. You can read his opinions on Epoch Times where he is a featured person. So Harvard, MIT, the journal Nature vs Epoch Times.

You still have not answered my query as to what kind of doctor drducat might be. Maybe one of the alternative fields? Maybe not even any training in medicine.. like Dr Dre or Dr J?

Great, knowledgeable information!

[drducat]

Originally Posted by blueash

Once again you are wrong. Whatever sources you are using are wrong. The mRNA vaccines have been shown to induce both B cell and T cell immunity.

What do the authors advise?
“We demonstrate reduced T-cell responses in vaccinated individuals to SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern,” writes Maus and colleagues.

The researchers say the decrease in T-cell response to the variants was smaller than has been observed in antibody neutralization assays.

“However, it will be important to determine how T-cell immunity impacts aggregate immune response to the variant SARS-CoV-2 viruses and if this reduction translates to adverse clinical outcomes,” concludes the team.

Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines induce T-cell immunity against SARS-CoV-2).



Do you see that? The vaccine induced a more vigorous T cell response than having the disease produced? Of course it was Harvard and MIT so it is all part of the conspiracy of institutions of higher education in that liberal state of Massachusetts. You might not believe what they report.
Maybe you would believe a report from 2020 in the journal Nature from British researchers who reported about the AZ vaccine


You again are wrong and spreading dangerous misinformation. By the way, Dr. Malone certainly is not the inventor of mRNA vaccines. He was a participant, not the leader, in some studies in the 1990's on mRNA. He never produced a vaccine. The person credited with in fact doing the heavy lifting in promoting use of mRNA is Katalin Kariko. The only "authority" who credits Dr. Malone, is Dr. Malone on his own website. You can read his opinions on Epoch Times where he is a featured person. So Harvard, MIT, the journal Nature vs Epoch Times.

You still have not answered my query as to what kind of doctor drducat might be. Maybe one of the alternative fields? Maybe not even any training in medicine.. like Dr Dre or Dr J?

Did you miss something??

What do the authors advise?
“We demonstrate reduced T-cell responses in vaccinated individuals to SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern,” writes Maus and colleagues.

The researchers say the decrease in T-cell response to the variants was smaller than has been observed in antibody neutralization assays.

“However, it will be important to determine how T-cell immunity impacts aggregate immune response to the variant SARS-CoV-2 viruses and if this reduction translates to adverse clinical outcomes,” concludes the team.

*Important Notice
bioRxiv publishes preliminary scientific reports that are not peer-reviewed and, therefore, should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or treated as established information.

[drducat]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That statement IS NOT true!

I suggest looking for newer info

[drducat]

Originally Posted by drducat

I suggest looking for newer info

If anyone feels compelled to take the jab and upcoming boosters go for it...meanwhile wait and see is also available....

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by scottiesrgreat@gmail.com

Who am I lashing out at? :-). I am simply just wondering why Yankees testing positive is such big news? You can stress about it - but, in the big picture of life - it really is a very, very, tiny piece of news - news that I guess would only be of interest to Yankee fans for some reason. If the members of my favorite sports team all tested positive - I’d say - ‘so what?’ - if they were experiencing health issues - then, I would hope they’d seek help and feel better soon (my sentiment would be the same if they experience any health issue - or personal tragedy)

I am going out to enjoy the day and spend time with friends and family - especially those that might need an extra smile or just need someone who can be there when they are experiencing an issue that, in my personal opinion - is more significant than stressing about the Yankees testing positive for Covid.

Why is it "Big News"?

Oh, I dunno... Probably the same reason Britney Spears is in the news... Or any celebrity, for that matter...

And who are you lashing out at? Re-read your posts...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Finally, a statement that I CAN agree with! Amazing!

Oh, no! It's the "Tri-Delt' variant!!! It causes everyone to look exactly the same!

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Oh, no! It's the "Tri-Delt' variant!!! It causes everyone to look exactly the same!

I wouldn't mind...

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Swoop

I do not fear Covid. I chose not to get a vaccine that hasn’t undergone any long term testing. For me, the statistical odds of dying from Covid, given my health are 4/100’s of 1%.
I simply used the incident with the Yankees to show that the number brake out cases among vaccinated people may be much higher than we were led to believe.

Well, there is your first mistake. As an un-vaccinated individual, you SHOULD fear Covid. You are not invisible.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by merrymini

I am not vaccinated.
You can have my shot to donate to anyone you wish.
Getting or not getting the shot is my business, not yours.
Many vaccinated people get covid but that does not fit the narrative so, sssshhh.
Anyone who would believe the garbage coming from the government should have their head examined.

Getting or not getting the shot is certainly EVERYONE'S business. The way out of this pandemic is for a high percentage of our population to be either vaccinated or succumb to the disease. Vaccination is the safe way so it stands to reason, the more people vaccinated, we, as a population, have the ability to reach herd immunity. More people like you is NOT what we need.

Anyone who believes the garbage coming from conspiracy theorists should have their head examined.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Anyone who believes the garbage coming from conspiracy theorists should have their head examined.

Right...........I'll make an appointment with a shrink tomorrow.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by drducat

All I am going to say....

Holy cow! How did you do that?