[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by ScottYvonne

Do you feel guilty about slavery? I don’t.

Guilt? No. Sadness, yes, for anyone who has suffered any kind of harm, injustice, illness, etc.
Right now I'm feeling a lot of sadness. Sadness for our country and all that is going on.

[Dust Bunny]

Originally Posted by davem4616

Are you friggin kidding me...John Wayne is a problem????

No friggin way!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow...this is the last BS straw for me...my camel's back has now been totally broken

How stupid and how far over the hill will some elected officials bend to make sure that they absolutely do not offend anyone at any time any where at any time...even if they are misinformed on reality

Well, guess what Orange County, you have just offended me! I OBJECT. Does, my
voice count...or am I just too damn white? Okay I could have my son who lives in Orange county object...will that matter??? No you've made up your mind that John Wayne must go.

Stupid, dumb, idiotic, cowardice.... you are running scared of what??? You cowards!!!!

If California drops off the edge from a earthquake...I no longer care....good bye

The Duke and all of his fans are offended big time! What's next, the removal of Mount Rushmore?

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by davem4616

Are you friggin kidding me...John Wayne is a problem????

No friggin way!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow...this is the last BS straw for me...my camel's back has now been totally broken

How stupid and how far over the hill will some elected officials bend to make sure that they absolutely do not offend anyone at any time any where at any time...even if they are misinformed on reality

Well, guess what Orange County, you have just offended me! I OBJECT. Does, my
voice count...or am I just too damn white? Okay I could have my son who lives in Orange county object...will that matter??? No you've made up your mind that John Wayne must go.

Stupid, dumb, idiotic, cowardice.... you are running scared of what??? You cowards!!!!

If California drops off the edge from a earthquake...I no longer care....good bye

i
Davem4616, this is just a BLM thing to tell the legal system who's boss or who they think is. They've got the legal system so scared that they're getting there way with their demands. Also it a strategy for to get one of the presidential candidates elected. Just my opinion! I agree with you totally, if what you say is true, I haven't heard this one yet!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Brynnie

It will end when decent, rational people rise up and make it end! Sitting around wringing our hands and lamenting the problem isn’t going to do it.

Hopefully in November we will be reminding the local and state and federal politicians who they actually work for send them home by the thousands.

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

To the locals it will always be John Wayne. It is the only airport of which I am aware that has three names, Santa Ana, Orange County and John Wayne. I love the John Wayne statue there.

Actually California does not want to change the name. A radical faction wants to change the name and has wanted to do so for a while. They are trying to take advantage of the current craziness and appeasement climate. They want to stick it to decent society while they can.

It’s like the small group of academics and activists who decided that Native Americans was better than American Indians. Then the Smithsonian Institute did a survey of actual American Indians on reservations and discovered that they preferred to be called American Indians. Or the small number of academics and activists who find Latinos and Latinas sexist, so want everyone to be caLed LatinX. Really? Well, actually, nearly all Latins can’t stand LatinX, but why should that matter to the politically correct? After all, they are CORRECT! So we should all do what they say, right?

Or those want to call all Mexican-Americans “Chicanos.” Only a small percentage like that. (Those who prefer it are usually highly political and anti-assimilationist.)

I don’t mind calling people what they like to be called, but I’m opposed to being shamed into doing it or forced into doing it. The NYTimes yesterday had an article yesterday on whether black should be capitalized while white is not. The idea is that Black stands for activism and rebellion and trying to get power and pride and fighting back, but black does not. But what if we all just want to get along with each other? I believe in assimilation and integration. The better cooked the stew, the better the flavor mix. I’m opposed to separatism.

A Debate Over Identity and Race Asks, Are African-Americans ‘Black’ or ‘black’? - The New York Times

[LG999]

Slavery has been present nearly as long as civilization. Many groups, perhaps most, were enslaved throughout history. It was customary to raid, plunder, and enslave. This country was among the first to realize it is wrong and to abolish it. Since then the US has tried hard to give extra advantages to those who suffered through employment, school admissions, housing, financial programs, and continues to looks for more avenues.
So, all of this violence and agitation is about something else.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Let’s just set race aside for awhile. This was an organization that Wayne was about the 4th president of they were all about finding communists under every rug. They worked closely with the head commie hunter McCarthy . My father was brought before this committee . He had been a union organizer all over USA In the 1930’s and fought in the Spanish Civil War where he faced German troops years before Americans did. WhenWW2 started he probably wouldn’t have been drafted because of age but he went anyway , and when he parachuted in on D Day he was 37 . McCarthy and guys like Wayne had my father branded a communist and thrown out of a National Union Job for his union activities and fighting in Spain he was not bitter for himself he still had an iron workers union card but for all the people who were destroyed by McCarthy and men like Wayne who backed him , did my father and I still watch his movies yes , like he said there were worse offenders but I couldn’t care less about his name coming down , he went along with destroying many other names . While reading many post here I can’t help thinking that quite a lot of people here probably still think Joe McCarthy is a great guy . I read somewhere where he still has a statue in town . Hmmmmm maybe we should send someone out there hmmmm

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Choro&Swing

It’s like the small group of academics and activists who decided that Native Americans was better than American Indians. Then the Smithsonian Institute did a survey of actual American Indians on reservations and discovered that they preferred to be called American Indians. Or the small number of academics and activists who find Latinos and Latinas sexist, so want everyone to be caLed LatinX. Really? Well, actually, nearly all Latins can’t stand LatinX, but why should that matter to the politically correct? After all, they are CORRECT! So we should all do what they say, right?

Or those want to call all Mexican-Americans “Chicanos.” Only a small percentage like that. (Those who prefer it are usually highly political and anti-assimilationist.)

I don’t mind calling people what they like to be called, but I’m opposed to being shamed into doing it or forced into doing it. The NYTimes yesterday had an article yesterday on whether black should be capitalized while white is not. The idea is that Black stands for activism and rebellion and trying to get power and pride and fighting back, but black does not. But what if we all just want to get along with each other? I believe in assimilation and integration. The better cooked the stew, the better the flavor mix. I’m opposed to separatism.

A Debate Over Identity and Race Asks, Are African-Americans ‘Black’ or ‘black’? - The New York Times

I grew up in New Mexico and until the virus all but shut down travel visited often over the years as I maintain business interests there. Every American Indian I have ever met or known there identifies himself/herself as an Indian, be they Navajo, Pueblo or Apache.

Also I was married to a hispanic lady from NM for 26 years. She has six siblings. No one in her family ever refers to themselves as Latino or Latina, ever. A DNA test showed she is about 28% American Indian which is probably par for the course over there as the Spanish started settling the area in 1598 or thereabouts.

Recently some rioters tried to tear down a statue of Onate in Albuquerque and were stopped but the authorities did afterwards remove it. He and his outfit treated the Indians terribly and enslaved some.

The area is tricultural: Indian, Hispanic and Anglo. While there are no doubt underlying tensions over many matters both past and present most folks get along most of the time and intermarriage is common and not even noteworthy.

Interestingly enough, John Wayne was attracted to hispanic women. His widow, Pilar, now 91 years of age, is Peruvian and well loved in Newport Beach.

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

Agreed. Not much news about the signs posted reading "Kill all white people".

I notice that all those who were NOT SLAVES want reparations from people who were NOT SLAVE OWNERS. Yet, they want to remain in this country !! HHow about we give all those who want unjust reparations from those who did nothing to them a FREE RIDE back to the dark continent and call it even.

When I had entered a ministerial college, the LA riots were in full swing.
I came home for summer and watched TV with my family. My dad, who always said he prayed daily to God to be given a gift for understanding others, suddenly blurted out, "Send them all back [to Africa]."

Nobody else in the family ever openly stated thoughts like that. Anyway, the number of Blacks that we knew were an extreme minority in NH.

My dad had feet of clay, and I was shocked beyond belief and felt betrayed by him. I thought everybody in the family felt similarly about colored people, friendly, welcoming, something to offer as citizens.

None of Dad's kids ever grew into the hatred part for any other people of color, to this very day. And, Boy, am I glad of that.
Chip

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by Dust Bunny

The Duke and all of his fans are offended big time! What's next, the removal of Mount Rushmore?

No, don't rush there merely to see a free advertisement for the government with beautiful fireworks bursting in the dry-weed background of it all.

I'd laugh if it weren't for the poverty of thought the government had to allow this to happen. It's like tearing the monument down by sullying it with politics.
Chip

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by Jaydee7897

Are the Politicians scared that the protesters will burn and loot their homes ? Where is the Police ? What will the protesters want next ?

Bet some of those same protesters ALSO protested the incarceration of Mexican children against their will as the government called it a way to reduce migration.

People who protest have more gumption than the rest of us who give lip service only and yell at the TV for irregularities in governance. AT LEAST SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING THAT OTHERS ARE NOT WILLING OR ABLE TO.
Chip

[regas56]

Originally Posted by davem4616

Are you friggin kidding me...John Wayne is a problem????

No friggin way!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow...this is the last BS straw for me...my camel's back has now been totally broken

How stupid and how far over the hill will some elected officials bend to make sure that they absolutely do not offend anyone at any time any where at any time...even if they are misinformed on reality

Well, guess what Orange County, you have just offended me! I OBJECT. Does, my
voice count...or am I just too damn white? Okay I could have my son who lives in Orange county object...will that matter??? No you've made up your mind that John Wayne must go.

Stupid, dumb, idiotic, cowardice.... you are running scared of what??? You cowards!!!!

If California drops off the edge from a earthquake...I no longer care....good bye

Yesterday in St Louis they had a big protest about renaming the city because apparently France's King Louis the 9th MIGHT have been racist.. Though he was the only King of France to be Canonized by the Catholic Church it really doesn't matter.. Our future generation will look back on this time in history and think to themselves man they HAD to be drunk cause no way they could have acted like that or done those things and been sober...Sigh!!!

[Sherry8bal]

Yeah, they should name it "We are the stupidest state in the U.S." airport!! That way, at least it fits California!

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

I grew up in New Mexico and until the virus all but shut down travel visited often over the years as I maintain business interests there. Every American Indian I have ever met or known there identifies himself/herself as an Indian, be they Navajo, Pueblo or Apache.

Also I was married to a hispanic lady from NM for 26 years. She has six siblings. No one in her family ever refers to themselves as Latino or Latina, ever. A DNA test showed she is about 28% American Indian which is probably par for the course over there as the Spanish started settling the area in 1598 or thereabouts.

Recently some rioters tried to tear down a statue of Onate in Albuquerque and were stopped but the authorities did afterwards remove it. He and his outfit treated the Indians terribly and enslaved some.

The area is tricultural: Indian, Hispanic and Anglo. While there is no doubt underlying tensions over many matters both past and present most folks get along most of the time and intermarriage is common and not even noteworthy.

Interestingly enough, John Wayne was attracted to hispanic women. His widow, Pilar, now 91 years of age, is Peruvian and well loved in Newport Beach.

I don't believe that much of this is even being driven by the minorities/blacks. I think all of this is just white bleeding heart liberals who want to look cool and empathetic. I read that the black women and their families who actually got to portray Aunt Jemima products were incensed at the rebranding.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by oldtimes

I don't believe that much of this is even being driven by the minorities/blacks. I think all of this is just white bleeding heart liberals who want to look cool and empathetic. I read that the black women and their families who actually got to portray Aunt Jemima products were incensed at the rebranding.

Thee are quite a few people/organizations to blame but this has gone crazy or will that offend someone?