[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Yup.

The one thing I worry about with Don is he is backed by the developer. Will see how independent he will be.

Don's integrity is worth of more than $1,000.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Don's integrity is worth of more than $1,000.

I would certainly hope so

[justjim]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

A few months ago there was a thread about Or.

At that time, I learned LOCAL offices are okay.

Have Fun!!

So it’s ok to talk and express opinions on local politics but not at the State or Federal level. Interesting.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Yup.

The one thing I worry about with Don is he is backed by the developer. Will see how independent he will be.

Nothing could be further from the truth...

He's had more than a few run ins with the developer, who are not please with him at times...

[justjim]

Most States have Open primaries. Florida, as we know, is closed since 1913. Non-partisan elections do not exist, even at the local level, which eliminates thousands of independent voters. Independents do not belong to either party. I said that to guess that most of us formerly came from States that have open non-partisan elections at the local level. As Joe Friday use to say “just the facts, mam”. Now who will be the first to say “go back from where you came from if you don’t like it”?

[cherylncliff]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Very true. The Sun will keep reminding us that Miller lost a previous race before he came here and was convicted of a felony. The developer wanted him out and spent a considerable amount of money and favors to do so.

Wiley seems to be doing a good job and will be heavily favored and presumably financed by the developer.

Hopefully we will get to see them in a debate.

He is not a convicted felons. The courts reversed that travesty that was called a trial.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by cherylncliff

He is not a convicted felons. The courts reversed that travesty that was called a trial.

I agree but that is what the developer will say via his newspaper

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Nothing could be further from the truth...

He's had more than a few run ins with the developer, who are not please with him at times...

In the past I would agree with you. I would bet that the paper will heartily endorse Don for commissioner and campaign against Miller

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

In the past I would agree with you. I would bet that the paper will heartily endorse Don for commissioner and campaign against Miller

That's an interesting assumption that has no basis in history...

[Carla B]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

That's an interesting assumption that has no basis in history...

We'll see about that.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Carla B

We'll see about that.

That would be what may happen in the future, no?

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

That's an interesting assumption that has no basis in history...

Not an assumption at all. It is a prediction, nothing more nothing less

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by justjim

So it’s ok to talk and express opinions on local politics but not at the State or Federal level. Interesting.

Don't shoot the ____________.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by cherylncliff

He is not a convicted felons. The courts reversed that travesty that was called a trial.

But he WAS convicted.
Check the court records.
Yes, things happened since.............but he was convicted.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

But he WAS convicted.
Check the court records.
Yes, things happened since.............but he was convicted.

Somehow, I view this situation from a different viewpoint and I have to admit I am a casual observer.

1/ I think he did violate the Florida Sunshine law regarding improper conversations. Personally, as I understand that law (limited), I think it is anti productive. To make things clear, my understanding is that discussion about issues with co- supervisors outside of public forum is not allowed.

2/ From what I understand, his crime of conviction was not for the Violation of the Sunshine law, but rather for Lying to state investigators whether he had discussions that violated the Florida Sunshine Law.

3/ His conviction was overturned upon appellate review that he did indicate later that he may have had those banned discussions.

What those discussions were about is another issue.

Was jail time even justified - in my opinion an unreasonable punishment for the whole issue.

Is he innocent, probably not regarding the Sunshine Law (He knew the rules). But Jail?

Thinking back on your life, have you ever done anything that violated a law? Speeding, theft (Pencil, tablet, software), insurance claim, tax deductions, etc.

Most of us are probably guilty of something. Would we have denied it? Yes, until the proof is evident. Then consent, I forgot whatever.

Not a Daily Sun issue or Village issue. We all create our own footprints. Be prepared to justify where they are. Don't blame others.