[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by ffresh

Not even close - actually, it's far less dangerous than the military, which is a widespread misconception. It depends upon which source you consult but police is usually 14th - 16th most dangerous job. In contrast, aviation/pilot is 3rd. So police is not nearly as dangerous a job as it once, probably, was. Notice at most police traffic stops, there are often two or three police cars before the "stopping" officer even exits his cruiser.

16. Police and sheriff’s patrol officers
25 Most Dangerous Jobs in America – Page 3 – 24/7 Wall St.

Fred

but as far as stress level then it's fourth: The 10 most stressful jobs

Enlisted military personnel of three or four years
Firefighter:
Airline pilot:
Police officer:

so though statistics may show that they are less "dangerous" they are probably more stressful because of the potential that exists.

as the daughter of a policeman, I can only tell you what I saw. My father saw people at their worst. He was unbelievable strict with his children because of what he saw being done by others kids. It was not a fun childhood. at the time he worked as a police officer they walked beats and they rotated shifts every 6 weeks which they now know is unhealthy for one's body clock. now people have assigned shifts. And he was this way back in a time when policemen were respected and people did what they said. now they are taunted and called all sorts of names when they are trying to help. my father only pulled his gun once in his career--someone actually was stealing his car from in front of the police station. My brother, also a cop, was in knife fights, etc. more than once. and this was in upstate NY, not some teaming metropolis.

I think there should be regular mandatory counseling because I think seeing the worst day after day does something to you. you forget the millions of decent people who live quiet, lawful lives.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Joanne19335

Hmmm.... I wonder why?? Glad you’re going to attend.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Windguy

Wake up! People are upset about systemic racism. The murder was merely the match that started the conflagration.

The problem is because of those that keep saying "systemic racism" and refuse to allow it to heal. Liberals mostly, that NEED color, gender, etc. identity politics to control the masses. Racism was healing, but then about ten plus years ago, the new political control decided that the only way they could maintain control with the least amount of work, for the people was to rip the scab off the healing wound. Ever notice that it is the white progressives that are ALWAYS the ones that stir that racism pot?

Bad COPs perpetrated a wrong and will be punished. Now, let this country heal after suffering a great economic loss due to the virus. There is NO excuse for destruction of property and assaults on people that are already down in this country. I'm sorry if I do not have the patience to coddle those that have been slighted, either imagined or real. No one has even proved yet that this incident, tragedy perpetrated by a few COPS is racially motivated. If it turns out that the COP involved has a personal gripe with Floyd, that has nothing to do with his race, no one is even going to go back and fix things. It will just be chalked off in history as a racially based killing. I am not saying that it isn't, but I am saying that these incidents always prove to be spontaneous combustion, before all the facts get released to the public.
The demonstrations have forced action on the part of the leaders. Four men are charged. Now, close up shop and quit destroying what little folks have left after this terrible virus has robbed from us.

[manaboutown]

Even illegal aliens are rioting and looting. Some were arrested in Phoenix. DACA Illegal Aliens Among 200 People Arrested in Phoenix, Arizona Riots

[Debi-G]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

HUH???? Technically speaking, is that a non sequitur or an oxymoron?

Whomever says that's it's ok to riot, destroy, and loot anyone else's property has to be some sort of stupid. Peaceful protest is a right by law, anything past that is grounds for jail time, or dirt nap depending on whomever you decide to destroy and loot... In this day and age I am appalled at the behavior of what is supposed to be civilization. And btw... I am of American Indian Heritage... in case you want to talk about injustice....

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov

Nothing wrong with a protest as long as it stays peaceful

Nothing wrong with protests as long as they are based upon real world scenarios instead of false info. Last year approximately 250 blacks were killed by law enforcement, but over 1000 whites were killed by cops. Where is the out of control rage coming from? More than 50% of the crimes were committed by blacks, so if cops were racists, why aren't more blacks than whites killed? None of this makes sense.

You are going to find out that this particular cop on black killing was not about race, but instead was totally based upon personal and intimate conflict.

[ts12755]

I thought this was police brutality how is this turning into a racist black thing? There were more unarmed whites killed by police last year than blacks twice as many. Stop trying to tear this country apart with your racism.

[GoodLife]

If we measure police brutality in terms of where police kill the largest number of unarmed individuals, without the officers being held accountable, the top five cities are:

New York (New York)
Phoenix (Arizona)
Los Angeles (California)
Jacksonville (Florida)
Chicago (Illinois)

5 Worst U.S. Cities for Police Brutality | Excessive Force Natl Epidemic

Cities with highest amounts paid for civil rights lawsuits against the police.



Our former President wrote this very recently:

The elected officials who matter most in reforming police departments and the criminal justice system work at the state and local levels.

So I'm pretty sure all the posts on police brutality aren't doing any good, unless the readers here are voters in the cities listed above. That's where the big problems are and where local governments need to be held accountable for them. The Federal government has very little sway over local Police departments.

[Holpat39]

Don't know where you are getting you info regarding Mr. Floyd's arrest record. Haven't heard or seen that any where. It was murder, plain and simple. Not justifiable homicide. Police have other mean to control a suspect. I am the wife of a former Chicago police officer and still have family on the police force there and I know for a fact they do not use the knee on neck tactic.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by Holpat39

Don't know where you are getting you info regarding Mr. Floyd's arrest record. Haven't heard or seen that any where. It was murder, plain and simple. Not justifiable homicide. Police have other mean to control a suspect. I am the wife of a former Chicago police officer and still have family on the police force there and I know for a fact they do not use the knee on neck tactic.

Chicago has paid out more than the other top 7 cities combined in civil rights lawsuits against their Police force.

[Arl]

All lives matter and at our age protesting should be out of the question. Look at how many people are being killed over this. Got nothing better to do take up a hobby.

[Arl]

Originally Posted by amexsbow

Was anyone present during the protests of the two police officers who were assassinated in New York? What about when the 48 police officers killed in 2019? NO? That's because there was not protest. What about the looting that took place? What no looting? I'm just saying...

I agree with you. Also why the protesting now the cops are in jail these people are looting and destroying property. Leave it along already

[transplanted]

Originally Posted by JimJohnson

The issue for most Americans is that the 4 police officers involved in the death, should be charged. No one is blaming all police. Also, it DID HAPPEN HERE. This is the United States of America.

I have to disagree with you. At this time, they have all been charged, so you should be pleased with that development and no further discussion is needed.

"Here" is an adverb meaning "in, at, or to this place or position" this place, to me, would translate to a radius of within about 25-35 miles from where this forum is dispatched, not the entire country. This is what the poster meant, and I believe you KNOW that's what was meant - but made a conscious choice to be argumentative. If people can't even be nice/respectful to one another on this forum, how can you possibly expect it to happen throughout (your version of) "here."

Further, some, even many, ARE blaming ALL police. For example, I saw a photo in the paper of a young woman holding a sign that said "NO GOOD POLICE." And there have been plenty of pictures of police being dragged and beat on, and the firebombing of a police station. Be honest, it's been open season on police for more than a couple of years now. And the media ABSOLUTELY does not treat them fairly. They jump on reporting all the ALLEGED behavior, and when if it turns out to be false, they turn into crickets and the public NEVER hears about it. I am VERY well acquainted with such, and I'll leave it at that.

I absolutely support the need to get rid of over aggressive police - and this is a perfect example of an over aggressive policeman and his underperforming sidekicks. Quite honestly, I'm so fed up with the attacks on police (over the past several years) I wish they would turn in their badges and just say 'take this job and shove it.' It isn't worth the miserable pay/hours/danger/false accusations/etc., that all face because of a minority of bad cops.

I wish for discussions that really examine and address the issue - but it must go in both directions and with open and honest feelings expressed from both sides. I'm not about touchy feely stuff, but feelings about one another is what causes it. The feelings may be based on studies, personal observations/experiences, or upbringing; it all has to be addressed. Merely being forced to cower to political correctness is NEVER going to successfully move the issues toward resolution. In my humble opinion, having PC forced down people's collective throats has led to an even worse situation and resulted in people who have lost any sense of tolerance and acceptance of those 'disagreed' with, into people who hate; hate spills over into action. Even if perfect discussions occur, we as a people, are still going to have some bad apples who will never come around... both racists (racism doesn't just go in one direction) and over-aggressive police officers. For them, I'm afraid all we can do is watch for the signs and take appropriate action sooner rather than later.

I do understand the massive protests right now -- on top of another killing, people are wound up over being locked down, having lost jobs, etc., due to COVID-19 and they are letting it all out with this killing. And that would be fine - if it were only peaceful protesting. But it isn't, sadly. It's not just protesting, it's uncalled for rioting and looting. Even Mr. Floyd's family has said 'knock it off!'

I wish Mr. Floyd's family peace in their sorrow, I wish for him to RIP, and I wish for all who choose to join the protests to remain peaceful and respectful while 'voicing' their opinions and allowing those wanting to protest to release their frustration without destruction.

If I have offended anyone reading this, please know that was not my intention. It may be my lack of being able to express my thoughts/ideas perfectly; I've found that as I get older, I seem to not be able to pull out words that I once knew. Take care and be well! And if you choose to protest - be safe.

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by transplanted

If I have offended anyone reading this, please know that was not my intention. It may be my lack of being able to express my thoughts/ideas perfectly; I've found that as I get older, I seem to not be able to pull out words that I once knew. Take care and be well! And if you choose to protest - be safe.

You did fine, thank you.
Steve

[ColdNoMore]

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