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Old 09-05-2020, 11:12 AM
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But what id the police officer was also black?
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Old 09-05-2020, 11:14 AM
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Black police stop black people also. Are they racist? No. So why make it all about race when a white police officer stops a black person. If you're stopped for any reason, just comply with the officer. It's called respect. If you have nothing to hide, you have no reason to act beliggerent. If you do have something to hide, own up to it and don't escalate the situation.
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Old 09-05-2020, 11:17 AM
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Totally agree. One can only go by statistics in a situation like this, police officer or not. When the statistics change, so will public opinion and perception. It’s a shame, buts it’s true. Decent blacks are paying the price for the statistics created by their own. I hope I live to see it change. There are plenty of wonderful, salt of the earth blacks paying the price for the actions of their own.
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Old 09-05-2020, 11:25 AM
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i think you hit the nail on the head. Not really racism, profiling based on history.

well said!
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Old 09-05-2020, 11:35 AM
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Default Get the facts then make a decision: Remember Brianna Taylor..

She lived with a dealer, kept money and goods for him. He even called her from jail to ask for the money she held, to get him out on bond. The police acted on the house being STILL USED for drug business. I am not saying that all cop shootings are good or bad.. but they go on the evidence they have. This girl was NOT an angel, nor was floyd.


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Suppose a black man grows up in a good family, gets a good education, gets a good job, gets married, and has a few children. He never breaks the law, never gets arrested, and is a good family man. One day, he is pulled over by a white police officer and is not treated in the same way that the police officer would normally treat a white man. But, the black man obeys the police, shows his valid license and registration, and is eventually released, even though he feels like he should have been treated with more respect. Who should he blame? The police officer because he is obviously a racist? Maybe. But, how about placing at least some of the blame on the disproportionate number of black men who did not follow the same law abiding course in life, and had some influence on the police officer's perception about life. Police officers are supposed to follow a standard procedure, but they are only human.
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Old 09-05-2020, 11:45 AM
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Some white cops are pricks has nothing to do with race
Being a cops a tough job a life and death job very high stress and generally they deal with the dregs of society criminals.
Blacks also been conditioned to believe their victims by media and politicians, this doesn’t help.
Believing you’re a victim means nothing is ever your fault for your poor decisions.
It allows everything to be blamed on racism, when it’s not.
Blaming everything on racism Is very addictive like a drug.
Some white cops are pricks has nothing to do with race : Some white cops are racists and their behavior has everything to do with race

Being a cops a tough job a life and death job very high stress and generally they deal with the dregs of society criminals. - Being Black in America is tough, constantly being viewed as a criminal, thug, or animal, hard to get a decent job because of systemic racism, people think you're lazy, on drugs, welfare queen, its very high stress being black, being black can be a death sentence

Blacks also been conditioned to believe their victims by media and politicians, this doesn’t help. Police have been conditioned by the media and politicians to believe that all Americans think all Police are racists when people know that the number of racist police is low but exists nevertheless

Believing you’re a victim means nothing is ever your fault for your poor decisions. Whether your black, white, police, or just taking a jog

It allows everything to be blamed on racism, when it’s not. Whether your black, white, police, or just taking a jog

Blaming everything on racism Is very addictive like a drug. Whether your black, white, police, or just taking a jog
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Old 09-05-2020, 11:55 AM
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suppose a black man grows up in a good family, gets a good education, gets a good job, gets married, and has a few children. He never breaks the law, never gets arrested, and is a good family man. One day, he is pulled over by a white police officer and is not treated in the same way that the police officer would normally treat a white man. But, the black man obeys the police, shows his valid license and registration, and is eventually released, even though he feels like he should have been treated with more respect. Who should he blame? The police officer because he is obviously a racist? Maybe. But, how about placing at least some of the blame on the disproportionate number of black men who did not follow the same law abiding course in life, and had some influence on the police officer's perception about life. Police officers are supposed to follow a standard procedure, but they are only human.
i have a beard, i'm a male, white, and i get pulled over because i look suspicious. I did not commit any crimes. Blacks commit 70% of all crimes, just figure the odds. There is a 70% chance you might have stopped someone that commited a crime??
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i have a beard, i'm a male, white, and i get pulled over because i look suspicious. I did not commit any crimes. Blacks commit 70% of all crimes, just figure the odds. There is a 70% chance you might have stopped someone that commited a crime??
I think we'd all love to see your source for the statistic you just stated that blacks commit 70% of all crimes.
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i have a beard, i'm a male, white, and i get pulled over because i look suspicious. I did not commit any crimes. Blacks commit 70% of all crimes, just figure the odds. There is a 70% chance you might have stopped someone that commited a crime??

No, the posted stat doesn't work that way. For your statement to be true......70% of blacks would have to be criminals.
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I am a white man and never been arrested driving a nice car and got pulled over and 3 cop cars pulled up all pulled guns on my. I found out later that I looked like a guy they were looking for. So I don’t see racism every time a black person is stopped
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Add to that: Some police officers act as judge, jury, AND executioner. We have recently witnessed instances of this; imagine what we have NOT been witness to. I DO have respect for men & women in blue...when they are doing their jobs as they were trained. However, the "bad apples" are tarnishing their ranks. The "blue wall of silence" must come down. As we teach our children, "If you see something, say something."
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Suppose a black man grows up in a good family, gets a good education, gets a good job, gets married, and has a few children. He never breaks the law, never gets arrested, and is a good family man. One day, he is pulled over by a white police officer and is not treated in the same way that the police officer would normally treat a white man. But, the black man obeys the police, shows his valid license and registration, and is eventually released, even though he feels like he should have been treated with more respect. Who should he blame? The police officer because he is obviously a racist? Maybe. But, how about placing at least some of the blame on the disproportionate number of black men who did not follow the same law abiding course in life, and had some influence on the police officer's perception about life. Police officers are supposed to follow a standard procedure, but they are only human.
OK, all well and good about the "disproportional" amount of Black crime. I will concede that as a beginning thesis. Now, I want to take the problem back - back to 1965 when LBJ did civil rights but had to stop SHORT of integrating ALL new residential communities - back to Jim Crow - back in History 400 years to the 1st Black slave brought here.

....Pretend, as a thought experiment, that Blacks had colonized the US before the White got here. Just forgetting about Native American rights for this experiment. Then the Blacks brought in UNEDUCATED and culturally unsophisticated White SLAVES, that remained 15 or so % of the US population. Then, the Whites would be more imprisoned and hurt by the Judicial system. Whites would be systemically racially prejudiced against. You need to imagine that Brave New World in order to relate to the Reality that Blacks are faced with every day. You need to go BACK to the original WHY things are this way for your answer. It is just LUCKY to be born WHITE. It is no great accomplishment and not to be bragged about!
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Very well said and hitting the point right on!
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Old 09-05-2020, 01:02 PM
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We are all human beings.

This whole mess is making me beyond sick and it is being used to collapse what we know as a democracy.

The violent and destructive behavior out there is vile and is to be condemned, not encouraged for ulterior motives as is happening right under our noses.

Remember this? (Some 8th grade teacher might have made you memorize it):

. . ."our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure."


Years before Lincoln gave that speech, Ben Franklin said, "We have given you a republic -- if you can keep it."

(Haunting words -- here we are.)


Do not categorize me so you can dismiss me. Please read on:

In my family there are two police officers, both women. One is my age so she is retired. She was the first female officer in her city so she often had to face down the territory that came with that. The other one is young. I respect and admire her -- and I worry about about her. I think police work is often a calling -- like it is for truly dedicated teachers and nurses. But I have to wonder how long it will be before we have very few who will want to answer any of those callings.

Our country is starting to look like Oceania, the country in Orwell's dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four. In the book the government made sure the Proles were saturated with violence, brought to them on screens, to keep them in a constant state of anger and fear in order to control and rule over them.

And now, in real life, not a novel -- the times -- they are Orwellian.


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Old 09-05-2020, 01:04 PM
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How do you know he was not treated as well as a white man? Generalities are not much to discuss.
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