[davem4616]

Originally Posted by Don Ferguson

I find that comment a sad joke. WHAT ARE THE "UNDERLYING SYSTEMIC ISSUES"? That answer is laughably simple. The issue is a lack of love and respect between the two races! And how do you plan on legislating the answer to that?

The Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton hate corporation could not afford to let this alone. This was one action that even a white supremacist couldn't justify. Good things would have happened for black folks if the riots had not happened to change the focus back against the minority supporters. When good things happen for blacks Jesse?Al et all lose millions in coerced donations.

if you had read my earlier post on this thread you would have seen what I believe some of the underlying systemic issues are...there is a huge difference between addressing the symptoms caused by an underlying issue and dealing with the underlying systemic issue itself

[davem4616]

Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov

Agreed but to stand by and let businesses be destroyed by hoodlums is not helping anything.

Your right Stuart...these people are not demonstrating, they are now committing crimes

[Bay Kid]

Another night is over for all the thieves. City riots. We are a 3rd world country.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Another night is over for all the thieves. City riots. We are a 3rd world country.

I agree but also disagree.

You feel this terrible situation is a result of one simple thing; one act that sent this turmoil.

On that I disagree. Was predicted, and even called for years ago, with no regard for race alone.

I DO agree that we are no longer the United States of America with "warts" at times, but a beacon for the world.

We are now "the states of America". With very little standing anywhere.

[Bucco]

Suggested reading on this.

This mornings NY Times, which chronicles US intelligence on Russian involvement in stoking unrest in our country using race, ties to white supremacist groups and their efforts to suppress voting.

And at the same time, breaking news is USA has arbitrarily invited Russia back to the G7.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Bucco

I agree but also disagree.

You feel this terrible situation is a result of one simple thing; one act that sent this turmoil.

On that I disagree. Was predicted, and even called for years ago, with no regard for race alone.

I DO agree that we are no longer the United States of America with "warts" at times, but a beacon for the world.

We are now "the states of America". With very little standing anywhere.

Perhaps but there are better ways to handle this than by standing back and allowing violent and criminal behavior

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov

Perhaps but there are better ways to handle this than by standing back and allowing violent and criminal behavior

I do not disagree with you at all

Hoping you will read the post right after that concerning the news this morning. (post 155)

As long as we IGNORE that kind of thing, and look for our old demons, we are playing the game just like they want us to.

As serious and as bad as the looting is, we should look for the cause as we punish those responsible, we need to find out what is the spark and we simply do not seem capable of doing that. We KNOW what it is.....it has been proven over time yet we ignore it.

The Times article I reference is not new news......it is simply ignored news and it is not what is called fake hearings in both the House AND the Senate establish this fact, yet we choose to ignore it and simply go on with our usual demons, which is how we have been "programmed"

Obviously you are in that camp, as reading your new posts on another thread, you find it better to mock and jeer instead of face our problem.

[Get real]

Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov

One black man gets murdered by a white cop and blacks burn down a neighborhood and destroy businesses owned by other blacks.

I do not recall another instance of a cop murdering a black man in several years.

This tell me the looters are looting because they can get away with it.

One thing has absolutely nothing to do with the other. This is just "party time" for anarchists and those stupid enough to follow. This tragedy is just an excuse. I would bet that most never heard of Floyd.

[Bucco]

I suppose I am in the camp of worrying about my country. Not in the camp of always looking for someone else to blame...not how to solve problems. It seems to be always blacks, immigrants or those in the other party that are blamed for everything, and we all know that is incredibly wrong. This country was not built on blaming but solving.

It is clearly in front of us as we continue to ignore it

[John_W]

My wife just had on HLN, and the blonde commentator Susan Hendricks said protests go on in 30 cities. Then they show videos of looting, rioting, burning, when are these networks going to start calling it was it really is? It certainly isn't a protest. Then they always add their commentary, these protests are in retaliation for police brutality that has been going on for years. Really, for years and you know this how?

Susan Hendricks, mindless people on TV.

[Antique lady]

Had law enforcement acted swiftly and detained all of the police officers involved in this latest incident that resulted in the killing of George Floyd, there would not have been the protest and violence and destruction of property we are witnessing. Inaction created an environment of frustration and desperation and provided cover for those determined to hide among the protesters to sow chaos......heart breaking.....

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Antique lady

Had law enforcement acted swiftly and detained all of the police officers involved in this latest incident that resulted in the killing of George Floyd, there would not have been the protest and violence and destruction of property we are witnessing. Inaction created an environment of frustration and desperation and provided cover for those determined to hide among the protesters to sow chaos......heart breaking.....

"He added, “To put it simply, in this space, Russia wants to watch us tear ourselves apart.”

Russia Trying to Stoke U.S. Racial Tensions Before Election, Officials Say - The New York Times

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Suggested reading on this.

This mornings NY Times, which chronicles US intelligence on Russian involvement in stoking unrest in our country using race, ties to white supremacist groups and their efforts to suppress voting.

And at the same time, breaking news is USA has arbitrarily invited Russia back to the G7.

Are we sure the Chinese are also not involved? It would make sense given the current accusations. They like to work behind the scenes.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by Antique lady

Had law enforcement acted swiftly and detained all of the police officers involved in this latest incident that resulted in the killing of George Floyd, there would not have been the protest and violence and destruction of property we are witnessing. Inaction created an environment of frustration and desperation and provided cover for those determined to hide among the protesters to sow chaos......heart breaking.....

Rioters are not protestors. Why is this so hard to understand?

[La lamy]

I feel so bad for all this chaos. I really hope the murderer and his police accomplices get their asses put into jail for a long time. Minorities have had such injustice to deal with for so many generations. I hope minorities keep videoing the a..holes and get them to pay the price. When people feel the law and justice doesn't apply to them, crap will happen, big time. We need justice and a fair share of societal rights for all, otherwise anger will continue to lead to chaos and rioting.