[Vonjor@gmail.com]

Agree with Sophie. Just ask yourself, would you change the color of your skin to black for $1,000,000? $10,000,000?
Would you be concerned for the safety of your child or grandchild if they were black?
We have to get this resolved, but unfortunately I don’t think it will happen in our lifetime😢

[jmpalladino]

Originally Posted by Nanny32162

Wait a minute. Let's make the punishment fit the crime. Let's charge all the police officers who have murdered unarmed people with murder, and sentence them to life in prison, no parole. I don't condone the violence, but I understand why it is happening. When people have tried peaceful protests over these murders and their voices are not listened to, the top will blow off the pressure cooker. People of color are so mistreated in this country, if you think not then you have blinders on your eyes and plugs in your ears. I know very well a black Federal Judge, he is frequently stopped for no reason other than BBWD - being black while driving. He produces his Federal identification and all of a sudden the attitude changes, "Oh, sorry sir, we heard of crime involving a similar car . . . ", etc. He is fortunate because of his position, but I can only imagine what it would be without it, too many aggressive, power hungry, hate-filled people in this world.

Amen. Well said!

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by PennBF

Until we make the punishment fit the crime, regardless of circumstances, we should plan on things just getting worse. Making the punishment fit the crime means that if someone tries to invade your life either a business or home you have and the responsibility to stop them by whatever means available including physical or shooting.This means the rioting will continue until we cease a cowardly approach and start protecting our rights and property! The question is not why are they rioting but rather why not. There are little if any consequences or punishments. I promise you that if they are held accountable for their acts thru profound punishment this whole mess will stop! The punishment includes anyone who is supporting their acts of war on your property or life. The police should be unshackled and permitted to use whatever force needed, not just stand with clubs
and take hits by stones and junk. We are demonstrating how weak we are and letting the police get injured so we can pretend that is the civil way to handle the
insurection going on.

How about accountability for what started all of this - accountability for police killings of black men.

Remember MLK said "Rioting is the language of the unheard."

[jmpalladino]

Originally Posted by sophie720

Since Jan. 1, 2015, 1,252 black people have been shot and killed by police, according to The Washington Post's database tracking police shootings; that doesn't even include those who died in police custody or were killed using other methods.
Eric Garner had just broken up a fight, according to witness testimony.

Ezell Ford was walking in his neighborhood.

Michelle Cusseaux was changing the lock on her home's door when police arrived to take her to a mental health facility.

Tanisha Anderson was having a bad mental health episode, and her brother called 911.

Tamir Rice was playing in a park.

Natasha McKenna was having a schizophrenic episode when she was tazed in Fairfax, Va.

Walter Scott was going to an auto-parts store.

Bettie Jones answered the door to let Chicago police officers in to help her upstairs neighbor, who had called 911 to resolve a domestic dispute.

Philando Castile was driving home from dinner with his girlfriend.

Botham Jean was eating ice cream in his living room in Dallas.

Atatiana Jefferson was babysitting her nephew at home in Fort Worth, Texas.

Eric Reason was pulling into a parking spot at a local chicken and fish shop.

Dominique Clayton was sleeping in her bed.

Breonna Taylor was also asleep in her bed.

And George Floyd was at the grocery store.

...just to name a few.

Also, there are three parts to what is currently going on.
There are the protestors who finally feel like they have a voice for change.
There are the people looting and damaging property (these people, if you have seen videos and photos, seem to be of a totally different and well organized group...bricks in the street, out of nowhere, for them to use...white people breaking windows with hammers and starting fires...it's a totally different element to this) and then people who are looting...the same people who will take advantage of any situation like this, black or white.

The other element to this is the frustration of not only police brutality and unjust profiling, but also the recent video sharing of black people having the police called on them for doing mundane things.........it needs to end. We all need to start acting like we are on the same team here. I mean, clearly those who are criminals/stealing/damaging property, etc...not on the same team...but, a change needs to happen.

Well said and documented. Shows those who have lived among the white way to long what is going on in this nation. Thank you.! Well done.

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by sophie720

Since Jan. 1, 2015, 1,252 black people have been shot and killed by police, according to The Washington Post's database tracking police shootings; that doesn't even include those who died in police custody or were killed using other methods.
Eric Garner had just broken up a fight, according to witness testimony.

Ezell Ford was walking in his neighborhood.

Michelle Cusseaux was changing the lock on her home's door when police arrived to take her to a mental health facility.

Tanisha Anderson was having a bad mental health episode, and her brother called 911.

Tamir Rice was playing in a park.

Natasha McKenna was having a schizophrenic episode when she was tazed in Fairfax, Va.

Walter Scott was going to an auto-parts store.

Bettie Jones answered the door to let Chicago police officers in to help her upstairs neighbor, who had called 911 to resolve a domestic dispute.

Philando Castile was driving home from dinner with his girlfriend.

Botham Jean was eating ice cream in his living room in Dallas.

Atatiana Jefferson was babysitting her nephew at home in Fort Worth, Texas.

Eric Reason was pulling into a parking spot at a local chicken and fish shop.

Dominique Clayton was sleeping in her bed.

Breonna Taylor was also asleep in her bed.

And George Floyd was at the grocery store.

...just to name a few.

Also, there are three parts to what is currently going on.
There are the protestors who finally feel like they have a voice for change.
There are the people looting and damaging property (these people, if you have seen videos and photos, seem to be of a totally different and well organized group...bricks in the street, out of nowhere, for them to use...white people breaking windows with hammers and starting fires...it's a totally different element to this) and then people who are looting...the same people who will take advantage of any situation like this, black or white.

The other element to this is the frustration of not only police brutality and unjust profiling, but also the recent video sharing of black people having the police called on them for doing mundane things.........it needs to end. We all need to start acting like we are on the same team here. I mean, clearly those who are criminals/stealing/damaging property, etc...not on the same team...but, a change needs to happen.

This says it all, Sophie "gets it." Those who craticize the post just don't have a clue and need to get their heads out of the sand.

[valuemkt]

Catch and release only works in sport fishing

[Rosebud1949]

They make themselves at risk by doing criminal acts !!!!!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by PennBF

The classic enabler is "I don't condone the violence but understand why it is happening"! How can anyone understand rioters are killing people, destroying property and ruining those who are peaceful and working hard for their families.

So then you agree that you don't condone police killing people, destroying property, and ruining those who are peaceful and working hard for their families.

Because if you include the "I understand why it's happening" part, you would admit to being an enabler.

George Floyd is not the only person this is about. It's just the spark that set off the current revolution (that's my word for it, I didn't pluck it out of a newsrag). Sophie's post above yours has a very short list of people who were, at the time of their murders, doing NOTHING violent when they were murdered. Regardless of the crimes they had committed (or believed to have committed) at the time the police got to them, they were NOT doing anything violent at those moments. Such as - being asleep in bed, at bedtime. Eating ice cream. Babysitting a nephew.

If you think you understand why it's happening, but don't condone it, then you are an enabler - according to your own standards.

Or do those standards only apply when the murderer is a minority?

[17362]

While I do agree with all of your views I feel the need to interject this as well.
I see us all as human. I see us all as American or not. I do not see color. I see humans. There are vast inequities in our society and yes they ALL need to stop. I am viewed as white, not human. That is an inequity. My DNA says different. However my DNA does say human. Get my point? Now, from my DNA number ours studies have occurred to give insight as to “behaviors”. Particular races have emotional tendencies. Until individuals start getting help with behavior coping skills that are acceptable to a society there will be “flying off the handle”, “knee jerk” excessive reactionary behaviors.
We are all human race! It has always been my hope for the world that one day this race will wake up and take the race equation out EXCEPT for getting coping skills help- we all need help in one way or another and all the injustice needs to stop.

Making the punishment fit the crime should not mean every infraction is a death sentence. Someone destroying replaceable property should mean they lose their irreplaceable life.

[SouthJerseyGirl]

Let’s be very clear. The protesters are not the rioters and looters. They are legally and peacefully protesting many real societal injustices. Leave them alone.

The rioters are a criminal element who seize the opportunity to steal and destroy while they know law enforcement attention is diverted. Lock them up.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by SouthJerseyGirl

Let’s be very clear. The protesters are not the rioters and looters. They are legally and peacefully protesting many real societal injustices. Leave them alone.

The rioters are a criminal element who seize the opportunity to steal and destroy while they know law enforcement attention is diverted. Lock them up.

[Rodneysblue]

Accusing all police of brutality is like accusing all protesters of rioting and looting, or all whites as racist or all blacks as criminals. There is always going to be a small group that try to define the majority, we just have to be strong enough to overcome the negative.

[Marylynn]

In 99% of the killing of a citizen by a police officer it is found to be justified. You can find that in the FBI data base. You can also find that in 2016 15% of whites who were murdered were murdered by a black person. 89% of blacks who were murdered were murdered by a black person. Maybe that should be addressed. And almost 100 police officers die each year in the line of duty. You go to a domestic violence call. You try to tackle gang violence. You try to stem the flow of drugs. Cops have a very difficult job where each day may be their last as they try to protect the law abiding.

Research each of the cases you listed above and see how few if any were not justified by the police officer feeling threatened for their life.

Address the real problem for blacks which is that over 70% of blacks are born to single mothers and have no male role model.

Floyd was murdered. The cop's going to jail. Address the real issues.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Marylynn

In 99% of the killing of a citizen by a police officer it is found to be justified.

And yet, the cops beating Rodney King (because of the change of venue) and OJ Simpson (retaliation of the abomination of the Rodney King cops getting away with it)...were both found not guilty.

Therein lies the reason, that the entire justice system...needs reformed.