[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by drducat

None of what the original topic of this post is very accurate....Human trials for RNA VaX? Don't think so..not on this planet.

All of the Media have tried to make this well respected scientist..(more so than Fauci the hack) into some kind of kook.....Got news for you all...he is spot on and is the ex Vice President of Pfizer and went of and created his own biotech firm......I have not trusted the media and the phony fact checkers for a long time now...it all spin...Take a look at the real facts and not positive conspiracy theories. Dr Michael Yeadon - An Urgent Warning To The World

This is a must see!!

This is NOT a must see. Dr. Michael Yeadon is not credible. Read all about him here....
The ex-Pfizer scientist who became an anti-vax hero.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

This is NOT a must see. Dr. Michael Yeadon is not credible. Read all about him here....
The ex-Pfizer scientist who became an anti-vax hero.

It is a must see..........let people decide for themselves

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by stanley

You don't know that yet! Nobody knows that yet!

We have been told repeatedly by experts the mRNA vaccines are safe. I believe them. The Pfizer mRNA vaccine has emergency authorization for children and Moderna is not far behind for their EA. I believe these vaccines are safe otherwise how could they have been approved for children? They are testing infants for these vaccines. Yes, I believe the experts and scientists that these mRNA vaccines are safe. They certainly know more than I do and they have assured us all these vaccines are safe.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by stanley

It is a must see..........let people decide for themselves

Even Dr. Yeadon's ex-colleagues said they "do not recognize him anymore". He is NOT credible. I could use other stronger verbiage but I will refrain.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

We have been told repeatedly by experts the mRNA vaccines are safe. I believe them. The Pfizer mRNA vaccine has emergency authorization for children and Moderna is not far behind for their EA. I believe these vaccines are safe otherwise how could they have been approved for children? They are testing infants for these vaccines. Yes, I believe the experts and scientists that these mRNA vaccines are safe. They certainly know more than I do and they have assured us all these vaccines are safe.

You "believe" and you "trust"......good for you......there are a lot of "us" that don't.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Even Dr. Yeadon's ex-colleagues said they "do not recognize him anymore". He is NOT credible. I could use other stronger verbiage but I will refrain.

"They" always eat their own......

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by stanley

You "believe" and you "trust"......good for you......there are a lot of "us" that don't.

Conspiracy theorists don't believe the scientists and experts either so there is that.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

We have been told repeatedly by experts the mRNA vaccines are safe. I believe them. The Pfizer mRNA vaccine has emergency authorization for children and Moderna is not far behind for their EA. I believe these vaccines are safe otherwise how could they have been approved for children? They are testing infants for these vaccines. Yes, I believe the experts and scientists that these mRNA vaccines are safe. They certainly know more than I do and they have assured us all these vaccines are safe.

Unless they have the ability to see into the future, they absolutely don’t “know” that the mRNA vaccines are safe long term. They certainly appear to be safe short term. It’s the long term unknown that I have an issue with. These are the first mRNA vaccines approved for use in humans. There have been NO studies of the long term safety of these vaccines...

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Happinow

What they didn’t tell you was the trial on animals failed miserably. The animals died. They wouldn’t publish this info. Ya gotta do some digging to find out the truth.

Isn't this almost the definition of confirmation bias, keep digging until you find "the truth" that backs up your beliefs?

[LiverpoolWalrus]

Originally Posted by Happinow

What they didn’t tell you was the trial on animals failed miserably. The animals died. They wouldn’t publish this info. Ya gotta do some digging to find out the truth.

I did some digging to find the truth.

Covid-19 vaccine did not kill every animal it was tested on - Full Fact

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Unless they have the ability to see into the future, they absolutely don’t “know” that the mRNA vaccines are safe long term. They certainly appear to be safe short term. It’s the long term unknown that I have an issue with. These are the first mRNA vaccines approved for use in humans. There have been NO studies of the long term safety of these vaccines...

I certainly understand what you are saying. I have read plenty about how these mRNA vaccines work. That fact that the messenger is excreted by the body very rapidly and leaves no lasting evidence of its existence in the body is why I feel there is no reason to fear the safety of these vaccines in the future. If the damage was going to be done it would be done early on, not years or even months from now.

Given the fact that the messenger is excreted shortly after it has done its job, the rest is my opinion and it is what I have to feel safe with this mRNA vaccine for the future. My money is on the scientists and pharm developers that there is no possibility of issues in the future. I also feel comfort in knowing these vaccines have been developed with modern state of the art technology which was put to use on a vaccine that had its beginning stages of development 30 years ago.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Conspiracy theorists don't believe the scientists and experts either so there is that.

Just because "someone" calls it a "conspiracy" doesn't mean it's not true.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I certainly understand what you are saying. I have read plenty about how these mRNA vaccines work. That fact that the messenger is excreted by the body very rapidly and leaves no lasting evidence of its existence in the body is why I feel there is no reason to fear the safety of these vaccines in the future. If the damage was going to be done it would be done early on, not years or even months from now.

Given the fact that the messenger is excreted shortly after it has done its job, the rest is my opinion and it is what I have to feel safe with this mRNA vaccine for the future. My money is on the scientists and pharm developers that there is no possibility of issues in the future. I also feel comfort in knowing these vaccines have been developed with modern state of the art technology which was put to use on a vaccine that had its beginning stages of development 30 years ago.

For your sake and for all the people I know who have been vaccinated, I truly hope that there are no long term side effects from the mRNA vaccines. But personally, why should I take that risk when the odds of me dying from Covid are so infinitesimally small???

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Swoop

For your sake and for all the people I know who have been vaccinated, I truly hope that there are no long term side effects from the mRNA vaccines. But personally, why should I take that risk when the odds of me dying from Covid are so infinitesimally small???

For your sake, I hope you continue to be lucky.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

For your sake, I hope you continue to be lucky.

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