[Becca9800]

Originally Posted by Bucco

I am sure that you have heard the leader of the GOP talk about this......is not his invention but....

GOP Congresswoman Blamed Wildfires on Jewish Space Laser

"QAnon adherents—who mostly slipped underground following President Joe Biden’s inauguration and a social media crackdown on conspiracy theories—are now galvanized behind the idea that Arizona’s controversial election audit will prove there was fraud, handing the state to former President Donald Trump, and then launching audits in other states that will eventually lead to reversing the election results, and putting Trump back in power."

This is pervasive in the part and over1/3 of GOP actually believe this to be true.

"Almost one in three Republican voters said it's at least somewhat likely that former President Donald Trump will be "reinstated" in 2021, showed a new Morning Consult poll, though there's no feasible way for this to occur. This included 17% of GOP voters who said it's "very likely" Trump will be reinstated."


29% of Republicans Say It's Likely Trump Will Be 'Reinstated' in 2021: Poll

How does a country function with this kind of looney tune antics.

Hope you have been following the various court cases with th Jan 6 insurrection and hear what these people are saying about this as well.

It isn't just Qanons or Rs w the looney tunes antics. Allow me to add the rest of the story, the part you should have included in the name of "all the facts".

According to The Hill-HarrisX poll.
While a portion of Republicans support the idea, the majority of voters believe it is unlikely Trump will be reinstated.

In The Hill-HarrisX poll, 70% of Republicans remained doubtful Trump could make a return to the Oval Office, along with 74% of independents and 87% of Democrats.

However, 26% of independent voters disagreed, saying it is likely Trump will be reinstated, while 13% of Democrats said the same.

Given the new info coming out re: the 1/6 "insurrection", I'll hold my judgement to see how it pans out. The real ****er about this issue: some 400 "insurrectionists" are being held in a DC jail, some have been there for months, no charges yet brought. Putin got to point it out in Geneva, in front of the World, that America is guilty of holding protesting political prisoners.

Your other point re: MTG has been refuted in post #126.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by S=kBlogW

What are you raving about now? I got my first shot of the vaccine on the very first day Publix scheduled the shots. You seem to think that people who recognize the success of warp speed are anti vaccine people? How ludicrous!

If you want to talk about people who are resistant to the vaccine you might want to start with employees at the NIH CDC FDA etc because only 50-60% of them accepted the vaccine.

96% of all US Doctors have been vaccinated!

[Becca9800]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

He was referring to Marjorie Taylor Greene, who has been stripped of all of her committee assignments, and is basically powerless...

He had two posts in response to mine, one was dedicated almost entirely to Carlson's statements.

[NoMoSno]

Even Jon Stewart can connect the obvious dots.
Jon Stewart On Vaccine Science And The Wuhan Lab Theory - YouTube

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by S=kBlogW

Yes it's boring when people think only their sources are accurate. They think if CNN NYT MSNBC etc don't have the story it can't be true. It's sad because the very sources they trust peddled lie after lie about Russian collusion for 4 years You'd think they might wake up.

Russian "collusion" and hacking are ABSOLUTELY TRUE. The head of the FBI testified to Congress about that. The Russians do that in every country to have things go their way. They poisoned a man and daughter with RADIATION in the UK. And the recent gas station lines in the Northeast. Get real - Russia is NOT your friend.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by S=kBlogW

Yes it's boring when people think only their sources are accurate. They think if CNN NYT MSNBC etc don't have the story it can't be true. It's sad because the very sources they trust peddled lie after lie about Russian collusion for 4 years You'd think they might wake up.

Is that a FEEBLE attempt at changing History?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

I agree. The chances of actual facts about this being made public are very slim. The US has a long-standing biological warfare program itself, which was supposed to be disbanded ages ago.

If China released the virus on purpose, that could be an international crime against humanity and should be investigated. But, that seems very unlikely, since releasing a biological warfare agent in your own country is not very smart.

Actually, it MIGHT (?) be smart. It would allow China to avert BLAME and come off looking innocent in the eyes of the world. Improve their economy (lives are cheap there) and hurt the Western world. Like covering their tracks.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Russian "collusion" and hacking are ABSOLUTELY TRUE. The head of the FBI testified to Congress about that. The Russian do that in every country to have things go their way. They poisoned a man and daughter with RADIATION in the UK. And the recent gas station lines in the Northeast. Get real - Russia is NOT your friend.

Once an agency has lied as much as the FBI has in recent years, then they can no longer be considered a credible source. Not that everything they say is a lie but it can not assumed to be factual.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Bucco

I am sure that you have heard the leader of the GOP talk about this......is not his invention but....

GOP Congresswoman Blamed Wildfires on Jewish Space Laser

"QAnon adherents—who mostly slipped underground following President Joe Biden’s inauguration and a social media crackdown on conspiracy theories—are now galvanized behind the idea that Arizona’s controversial election audit will prove there was fraud, handing the state to former President Donald Trump, and then launching audits in other states that will eventually lead to reversing the election results, and putting Trump back in power."

This is pervasive in the part and over1/3 of GOP actually believe this to be true.

"Almost one in three Republican voters said it's at least somewhat likely that former President Donald Trump will be "reinstated" in 2021, showed a new Morning Consult poll, though there's no feasible way for this to occur. This included 17% of GOP voters who said it's "very likely" Trump will be reinstated."


29% of Republicans Say It's Likely Trump Will Be 'Reinstated' in 2021: Poll

How does a country function with this kind of looney tune antics.

Hope you have been following the various court cases with th Jan 6 insurrection and hear what these people are saying about this as well.

With respect to "no feasible way for this to occur".........I don't want this to happen, but an out-of-control all-volunteer Army could (?) possibly reinstate the old President. I don't trust an all-volunteer Army - it is like a mercenary Army. We need some drafted people for stability.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Oh, right... She's Soooo powerful...

Which committees is she on again? Oh, that's right, NONE!

Marjorie Taylor Greene Loses House Committee Assignments : NPR

Unlike AOC and the Anti-Semite, Omar, who is on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, one of the most powerful and prestigious committees...

M.T. Greene raised 3 MILLION dollars in the 1st 3 months of this year On-Line from "CRAZIES" like herself!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Becca9800

While I do see Carlson as an influencer, I don't see him as a 'person in power'. He has no decision-making authority, incapable of changing any law, therefore no power.

As to the AZ audit, I'll await the findings before declaring any reported irregularities as bizarre. I want free AND fair elections and believe audits are reasonable if only to prove that's what it was.

Trump's comments were perceived as a disavowment by the Qanon community. And they were p!**ed!

Real audits were completed in Arizona BEFORE the election was confirmed. What is going on in Arizona IS a SHAM audit - just something to get TV coverage and keep the Cult happy. The SHAM involved the collecting of voting machines - which is ILLEGAL. That showboat, futile action will cost Az. taxpayers MILLIONS of dollars. If this action spreads to many other states, our next federal election will be useless! Then what??????? Plus more wasted $.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Becca9800

It isn't just Qanons or Rs w the looney tunes antics. Allow me to add the rest of the story, the part you should have included in the name of "all the facts".

According to The Hill-HarrisX poll.
While a portion of Republicans support the idea, the majority of voters believe it is unlikely Trump will be reinstated.

In The Hill-HarrisX poll, 70% of Republicans remained doubtful Trump could make a return to the Oval Office, along with 74% of independents and 87% of Democrats.

However, 26% of independent voters disagreed, saying it is likely Trump will be reinstated, while 13% of Democrats said the same.

Given the new info coming out re: the 1/6 "insurrection", I'll hold my judgement to see how it pans out. The real ****er about this issue: some 400 "insurrectionists" are being held in a DC jail, some have been there for months, no charges yet brought. Putin got to point it out in Geneva, in front of the World, that America is guilty of holding protesting political prisoners.

Your other point re: MTG has been refuted in post #126.

Sorry to inform you that patriotic Americans do NOT look to V, Putin for the TRUTH. All the U.K. got from Putin was 2 of its citizens POISONED with Radiation. Best NOT to invite him over for a nice lunch.

[Becca9800]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Sorry to inform you that patriotic Americans do NOT look to V, Putin for the TRUTH. All the U.K. got from Putin was 2 of its citizens POISONED with Radiation. Best NOT to invite him over for a nice lunch.

Sincerely?

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by paquino

WOW! What a thread. We really have made this country great again. Look at all the experts here!

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by ithos

Are you capable of making a rational point without the use of strawmen?

Should I condemn everything you say because antifa protestors have tried to burn down a Portland Federal courthouse for the last 6 months? Or after George Floyd, they threw stones and bricks atpolice and caused billions in damages?

There always going to be whackos on both ends of the spectrums. It just so happens that the violent ones are almost exclusively on the left.

I was replying to a poster who played the innocent, or at least her posts sounded that theme, but suddenly perked up and got wiser, but I felt she needed to have her memory jogged.

Those who give credence to this “crap” and crap all it is deserve to be constantly reminded that what is happening is serious.....having our government be the headline sordid stuff around the world is embarrassing. Especially since the world knows it is all based on lies, nothing else.

And to those who simply think they are enjoying this “game”, I remind they are the enablers, the pawns, and it is that image the world has of them.

I lived through the Nixon years with a close up view of corruption, and the last few years made that period historic as good guys.

I left the party, but did not become a member of the other. I have watched for the last years, as my old “team” is being destroyed, torn to shreds by insidious lying and one conspiracy after another.

I suppose the followers of Jim Jones “get it”. They were in the same exact place, without social media.

Democracy is fragile, it is teetering because of these people, including enablers.

Does this mean, the other is pure, better, or more honest.....NO. But they are true amateurs when the lying, corruption and deceit steps up.

These are no. Longer “political” battles, but much more serious. I was disgusted and sick up till January 6 at which time I was and am simply in awe at those who, to this day, make any excuse for an invasion on our very own capital, based on yet another lie.

Hope that is straightforward enough for you.

I am also tired of the Antifa references, etc. there is simply not even a close comparison, and the fact you make it says a lot. I lived through the 60’s, was terrified, and disgusted. I have said this on here a lot, but that is absolutely no comparison to an attack on the very capitol and supposed center of our democracy, based on lies...not one single truth, rooted on by the leader of the country.