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Old 08-27-2020, 09:47 AM
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As I understand it, it was “ mentioned” to the CDC from the WH , to announce the changes to the mandates for Covid-19. And of course None of it makes sense and contradicts most of what we learned so far.... was done while the Dr was unavailable under anesthesia in the hospital

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That article is behind a paywall so I didn't read it. Instead, I went to the CDC website and read their actual guidelines.

People will not "be denied" a test if they are aware they were exposed to the virus. That is categorically false.

The guidelines suggest that certain people might not NEED to be tested. Not that it will be forbidden to them.

I recommend, always, reading the source of articles, when those articles are about facts that come from other sources.

Here are the actual guidelines:

Overview of Testing for SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) | CDC
. Why screw up a good story with the FACTS???
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Granted I just woke up but... can someone explain how reducing testing for Covid and colon cancer will reduce the number of cases and potential deaths?
I took that post to be tongue in cheek. Certainly less colonoscopies do not yield less colon cancer. Same for less Covid testing yields less Covid cases.

Yup......tongue in cheek.
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I think (hope!) the posting was sarcastic. People really should use winky faces when appropriate...
Seriously....winky faces are not required when the comment is so outlandish as that one was.
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The new guideline is that you are NOT required to take a test if you have come into contact with someone that May have the virus. And the only way you know if you are asymptomatic is to have had a test. Lets try to keep from spreading false rumors no matter what your political belief are.
The first paragraph of the article I linked is the following........

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention quietly modified its coronavirus testing guidelines this week to exclude people who do not have symptoms of Covid-19 — even if they have been recently exposed to the virus.

Was I spreading false rumors? I reiterated what was stated in this NY Times article.
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Th new guidelines do not make any sense to me, especially if you know you have been exposed to the virus. According to these new guidelines, a person who is asymptomatic will be denied a test even if they are aware they have been exposed to the virus. Can someone explain the rationale for this absurdity?

C.D.C. Now Says People Without Covid-19 Symptoms Do Not Need Testing - The New York Times
Bad government.
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This is dated Aug 24 new recommendations are Aug 26. No need for test even if exposed. Sounds fishy.
That is what ALL the media is saying.
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There is too much testing in the U.S. for COVID 19. If we reduce the number of people being tested, we can reduce the number of positive tests, and thus reduce the incidence of COVID in the population.

Similarly, there is too much screening for colon cancer in the U.S. especially for people over 50. If we reduce the amount of screening, we can reduce the incidence of colon cancer in the population.
Mr Spock would have called a foul for "not logical" on that one.
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Sources in the CDC revealed on Wednesday that the Director of the C.D.C. was under heavy pressure from the White House to make this change. The hope is that a lot of the positive tests would never show up if people weren’t being tested. However, the problem is that asymptomatic positives can still spread it to those they live with, kiss, hug, talk with face to face, eat with, drive with, even if they aren’t coughing. Meanwhile, evidence shows that people who are positive are most contagious BEFORE they have any symptoms. So, if they can be detected when they DO have the disease but BEFORE they show any symptoms at all, it might be possible to get them to quarantine instead of dropping by The Villages to eat that home-cooked dinner with Grandma and Grandpa. Thus, early testing now may decrease case later and save your life.

From the article you linked to: “Models suggest that about half of transmission events can be traced back to individuals still in this so-called pre-symptomatic stage, before they start to feel ill — if they ever feel sick at all.”
Top U.S. Officials Told C.D.C. to Soften Coronavirus Testing Guidelines - The New York Times
That is so well written and also so true! That post covered everything that I have watched or read about that subject in the last 2 days. Nice that SOME people make HELPFUL posts based on science. For weeks there has been TOO much denying
of the facts and the really BIG risks associated with CV, and the constant downplaying of risks on this forum.
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For those who were confused with this post think about it. Let’s say no tests for Covid even after a person dies. What would the death certificate say. Cause of death respiratory or heart failure probably. It wouldn’t be Covid because he wasn’t tested for that. So no tests for Covid and we’ve eliminated Covid as a disease and cause of death. See how brilliant we are we just cured Covid. I did my part so could somebody kindly come up with a cure for death.
Some say religious beliefs cure or mitigate death?
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This is dated Aug 24 new recommendations are Aug 26. No need for test even if exposed. Sounds fishy.
Not really. Even if you get tested after being exposed you’re not in the clear with a negative response. You could be positive the very next day. You would have to be tested every single day to really know. And that’s assuming the test was accurate and no human error occurred. Best to just quarantine for 14 days. Even if symptoms develop there is no need for testing unless you need to be hospitalized
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Who wants to stay quarantined for 14 days rather than having the ability to take the test? Not me.
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Th new guidelines do not make any sense to me, especially if you know you have been exposed to the virus. According to these new guidelines, a person who is asymptomatic will be denied a test even if they are aware they have been exposed to the virus. Can someone explain the rationale for this absurdity?

C.D.C. Now Says People Without Covid-19 Symptoms Do Not Need Testing - The New York Times
Easy explanation - pressure/orders from above.
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Easy explanation - pressure/orders from above.
Let's face it.....

The US government has decided to reduce cases by reducing testing.

The US government has decided to slow the US mail.

All predictable and frankly, we were warned.

Those who do not like it.....nothing you can do about it. Nor the future moves similar.

Those who think it is fine....obviously more to come, and hope it doesn't affect you or yours.
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Is there any truth to the story that W House officials pressured the CDC to change the guidelines? Love to fact check that somehow.
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