[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Well, I guess there was no reason for a trial, since you're so sure of what happened...

Are you available for other trials? It could save the justice system a lot of money!

Good point.

No one here is on that jury, which means that no one here will know in total what that jury knows or how the deliberations proceed. What we DO know is that juries are charged to decide guilt or innocence based on the LAW, not on prior prejudices one way or the other.

This is our system. Trusting it is essential, no matter what our personal feelings might be.,

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by bonrich

I understand the label "white supremacist" was spoken by the President of the United States.

Before he had any facts... He learned well as VP...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

Agree. There is no way to sugar coat his actions - he was a self described white supremacist and vigilante. I think its important to separate politics from facts. Taking a look at the FACTS - He willingly came to a riot "locked and loaded" with 30 rounds of live ammunition in his semi-automatic rifle. He lied about being an EMT - he was not licensed or even trained as one, and he is not old enough to open carry the weapon in Wisconsin. He deliberately injected himself into a dangerous situation with a conspicuous assault rifle where he KNEW he might have to use it. He not only pulled the trigger four times killing one person (shot in the head?), he then pulled it again killing a second person, and then a third time injuring a a third person IMHO, If he doesn't serve jail time for the shootings there is something wrong with our justice system. And I think his mother, who knew what he was up to and transported him across state lines, should be held accountable as well.

What is additionally sickening is that (according to an affidavit filed by the Kenosha DA) Rittenhouse was at a pub on January 5 with his mother, after the killings, posing for pictures while flashing a white supremacist hand gesture, wearing a T-shirt reading "free as f**k." It doesn't appear he even had an real remorse for what he had done.

Funny, you neglected to mention that those shot attacked/assaulted and pointed their (illegally possessed) weapon at Rittenhouse...

And please point me to any link that shows he was a "self proclaimed" anything.

Yes, he puffed up his resume to a reporter... The horror!

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by Trayderjoe

So a 17 year old (at the time of the incident) is arrested and labeled a white supremacist and guilty of murder by many, all without the benefit of trial. At trial, the star witness for the prosecution admits that Rittenhouse did not shoot him UNTIL HE POINTED HIS GUN AT RITTENHOUSE. Another PROSECUTION witness testified that the PROSECUTION tried to get him to change his statement, and the judge had to admonish the prosecutor for attempting to violate Rittenhouse’s constitutional rights to remain silent.

And what are some concerned about? Whether Rittenhouse actually cried during his testimony. Really? I mean, really? If anything, people should be questioning the potential prosecutorial misconduct and the rapid rush to judge a person absent facts and a fair trial. How dare a prosecutor attempt to introduce that the defendant chose to remain silent until he took the witness stand, and yet there are people who are not outraged by the prosecutor, but they apparently are ready to mock the defendant over his crying. What I saw and heard was not crying, but an attempt to control his emotions at which point the judge granted a recess so that the defendant could compose himself.

I guess lessons weren’t learned after the Nicholas Sandman debacle, hopefully Kyle Rittenhouse has attorneys lined up to drop lawsuits. Given that some of those proclaiming his guilt also attacked Nicholas Sandman, one would think the judgement/settlement against these people should be significantly higher.

He shouldn’t have been there and shouldn’t have been armed, but he must have been utterly terrified, and he makes an excellent case for it being self-defense. Seventeen year olds often make very poor decisions, especially if swayed by emotional and one-sided arguments.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by tjlee500

People have been shot and killed and you think this is entertaining and popcorn is appropriate? Think about the families. What would your reaction to a fool who would make such callous remarks?

The popcorn is for the reactions on this board. And rightly so...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by christine J Toft

Odd, I watched. Not one drop of water came from his eyes. He's not even a good actor. And I also found it disturbing that the judge would not allow the prosecution to refer to those shot as "victims" yet the defense can call them Thugs, Rioters etc.... This judge was obviously very biased.

Sorry he didn't "cry" well enough for you... If you though he was "acting", you have no place discussing "bias"...

To your other point, already covered...

[Proveone]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

How to pis* off a judge and lose your case.

Quite entertaining yesterday.

I've got some popcorn and ready for today.

The judge is a nut case. He is an elected official and playing to his "audience". Pathetic human being! The prosecution is inept. Rittenhouse should have stuck to video games. He will be a "marked" person if he gets off. By the way, so that's how you entertain yourself with popcorn?

[Roron123]

Fox News had the whole thing on yesterday!!remember this kid is 18 yrs and he killed someone so is allowed to get emotional 😢

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Kyle Rittenhouse trial: Defense plans to call several more witnesses after his crucial testimony - CNN

I saw some of it on CNN. It has been on there a great deal.

I bet that is real accurate reporting. NOT

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by kenoc7

It is very easy to **** off a biased judge what has Lee Greenwood's "anthem" as his ring tone.

I thought it was "Southern Cross", by CS&N...

But I've since listened to both and neither have those horns in them... So there's that...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

Um, he wouldn't have had to defend himself if he didn't have a weapon. He didn't even have to be there. He chose to show up, across state lines, with an illegal weapon..... he and his mother should spend the rest of their lives in jail. Vermin like that have no place in society.

Wrong. You need to brush up on your facts and stop getting your talking points from the MSM...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Proveone

The judge is a nut case. He is an elected official and playing to his "audience". Pathetic human being! The prosecution is inept. Rittenhouse should have stuck to video games. He will be a "marked" person if he gets off. By the way, so that's how you entertain yourself with popcorn?

The judge is following the law. He has repeatedly told the prosecution to cut out their shenanigans, yet they continued, so they were (deservedly) admonished).

The recent, most blatant one was their attempt to try to paint Rittenhouse as guilty because he followed his CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to REMAIN SILENT...

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Unfortunately, the smarmy, white supremacist little thug (and his mother) are going to get away with it. He went there for ONE reason and one reason only. He wanted to be a hero and shoot someone. He got his wish and will get away with it, due a lot to an inept prosecution and a sympathetic judge. The fact that his mother (who I can't understand why she isn't being charged) willingly drove him to a location where trouble was likely, while illegally armed, says a lot about the entitlement environment he was raised in. What kind of parent even does that?

What you leave out in your rant is the video evidence of his running away from a mob trying to catch and kill him and his resorting to using his gun only when on the ground with a gun pointed at him. The only thing you stated accurately was he should not have been there but on the other hand he did have every right to be there as did the protesters. Oops rioters destroying private property with no intervention allowed from from law enforcement being managed by the elected leaders. So far testimony from prosecution witnesses seem to back up the defense.

[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Your opinion, you might add. Was he a "white supremacist?" What group does he represent? Or, are you judging him? Did he not have a first aid kit with him? Was he intending to choke someone with an ace bandage?

At Pudgy’s Pub, Rittenhouse was seen wearing a T-shirt with the words, “Free as F***,” while flashing the "OK" sign — a gesture that has been co-opted by known white supremacist groups, the motion said. In his 90-minute visit to the bar, which was captured on security footage, the teen was seen consuming alcohol while being serenaded by a group of adult men who sang the Proud Boys’ anthem, according to the motion.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

At Pudgy’s Pub, Rittenhouse was seen wearing a T-shirt with the words, “Free as F***,” while flashing the "OK" sign — a gesture that has been co-opted by known white supremacist groups, the motion said. In his 90-minute visit to the bar, which was captured on security footage, the teen was seen consuming alcohol while being serenaded by a group of adult men who sang the Proud Boys’ anthem, according to the motion.

The t-shirt proves nothing...

That "gesture" has also been used by countless others, as I showed earlier in this thread. It proves nothing...

Being given a drink by his parent proves nothing...

And what is this "Proud Boys Anthem" you speak of?